whodatsaintsfan26

Is it really negativity if it is the truth? This team is bad. Why should we as fans not have the right to be upset? Out of all the years the Saints have been around there has never been the expectations there have been on this team in the past 3-4 years. I dont think there is a person here that hasnt been through thick and thin with this team. I dont see anyone saying there no longer fans, or that they dont love this team anymore. We are simply saying that this team hasnt lived up to the expectations that the organization, coaching staff, and players have hyped up. Is there a problem with a fan questioning some of the moves and decisions of the organization? Should we just sit silently by and just say OK wait till next season?

BeeoBee

first of all..its their job to hype up the team..do you think that they will come out and say..this team sucks and that will put fans in the seats at the dome?!?we have problems.. i dont deny that ..but think about it..do you ever watch a saints game with you dad or grandfather and when the game gets REAL bad...even as bad as you feel..they start in with \"oooh what a buch of losers..they suck man..the bunch of bums\"and just make it ten times worse??it gets you nowheres..lets talk about figuring out how we can save the season cause you do realize..this is only week seven?!?!or how we can clean house and get better next year??not..ooh yeah..were gonna make kerry collins a pro bowler next week and yeah lets get drew brees in here...DREW BREES!!! you gotta be kiddin me bro..the brooks thing makes me sick..yeah he kinda says he wants out but..thats cause when i\'m in the dome..every time they call his name..everyone boos!!even when he has clearly done nothing wrong..i would be sick too...how bout talking about the bad play calling that mccarthy has been doing??what my last post boils down to is..talk about what you want..its a free country and all..but this is \"Black and Gold.net\"...not \"Black and Gold Sucks.net\"right??

bayouking318

Amen

saintswhodi

I second that WhoDat. As long as I have been reading this site one thing is common and obvious, EVERYONE IS A SAINTS FAN AND LOVES THIS TEAM. There is not one sell-out on this board and it is a disgrace to say so. I like the analogy that was used on the Saints being like a relative that you can talk about, but if anyone else does, \"Dem\'s fighting words.\" That is more true than anyoen would believe. I live in Texas, San Antonio and have to hear daily how well the Texans, an expansion team no less, and Cowboys are doing. Shouldn\'t it be frustrating to me that another expansion team looks like it will get to the Superbowl before my beloved Saints? The Panthers have already done it even though they have long since stopped being labeled an expansion team. But these teams have gone farther than the Saints, even the Jags. Do I not have the right to be upset? Don\'t we all? Doesn\'t make anyone a fairweather fan.

Growing up in New Orleans I could never even dream of supporting another team and I can\'t to this day. NOONE on this site wants the Saints to move to LA. If fans are selling out the dome with the crap that is being put on the field right now, they don\'t have the right to boo? During the Titans game I heard Brett Favre getting booed. BRETT FAVRE!!! Surely he has done more for the Pack than anyone in their team history and he was getting booed so I am to believe Brooks is above getting booed? Come on. You obviously have mistaken everyone\'s pain at seeing this team underachieve again and perceived it as apathy, indifference, or becoming traitors. You could not be more wrong. It hurts my heart to have to write negativity about the Saints, and it hurts even more cause it is the truth.

JKool

Ok, I tried to avoid this.

I agree that the negativity has its place. Well made arguments, whether positive or negative (and straight up info) are all I look for on this board. Sure, some guys have other guys they like to pick on, etc. but that is just part of the entertainment value.

That said, I think there are two things of note:

(1)
This is right, but you\'ll note that it says MOST FOLKS. I would say this - MOST FOLKS MOST OF THE TIME. I\'ll tell you what I find annoying and agree with right here in this post - it sucks to come on here after the game hoping to have some legitimate discussion and find that many threads are simply overrun with people saying things like this teams sucks hard and anyone who says otherwise is an idiot. This makes it very hard to discuss at all! In fact, there is no point in saying anything until two or three days later in most cases. This means that the board that is for all of us is overrun by some of us. Everyone has their own way of venting after the loss - for some it is to rant and rave, for others it is too look for the positives. These are just two different ways to express our love for the team (I don\'t see why one is better or worse than the other - but I do see that it is bad if one way blocks/runs off the other).

(2) I personally think that sometimes the nay saying gets over the top, but there are things about the team that do in fact suck. Why lie to ourselves or yourself for that matter. There are so very few people on this board who thought our secondary would be good this year, there are also very few people who thought that we\'d improved significantly against the run. The \"negative\" types go a long way in making sure the \"positive\" types keep their feet on the ground. The \"positive\" types open discussions on very interesting things for the \"negative\" types to jump on. This seems to be the culture here, and I\'m ok with that. However, I feel that some very good posters get sick of RIDICULOUS I-told-ya-so\'s and people simply saying nothing but what sounds like \"suck, suck, suck, suck...\" and if that means they won\'t be comin\' round, I say so much the worse for EVERYONE.

There are my two cents as a fine colleague here likes to say.

"... I was beating them with my eyes the whole game..." - Aaron Brooks

saintfan

Amen! I miss Danno...

And on another note, The Panthers, \"IT\" and all are 1-4. LMAO

JKool

SF - some days we are on the same page, no?

saintfan

I\'m speculating, but I know Danno was tired of the Brooks debate, however I think it went a bit further. He was not allowed to post anything positive without being hit over the head and told how crazy he was.

The hypocricacy is staggering, but that\'s all I\'m gonna say about it for now.

I also find it interesting, being that the Dome was filled (with an extension of course) that some on this very web site (and others) and a particular media guy with a speech problem were clamoring for fans to refuse to go to games and to turn in their season tickets. I just don\'t see how this helps the team OR the organization.

Even the announcers Sunday night made mention of how the \"fans\" boo the QB for EVERYthing. That\'s where my \"agenda\" talk sprang from (in spite of what you may hear)...people wanting to blame Brooks for EVERYthing of Haz for things absolutely beyond his control...or insinuating the Saints are a Mickey Mouse organization when other teams, players, and coaches go through the same scenarios.

I mean, they\'re ready to hang the great Parcells here in Dallas. Go figure.

C'mon Man...

BlackandBlue

Roger that.

frankeefrank

B-O-B
We\'re (yes all of us) in a three game losing streak. Losses to Arizona, Tampa and Minnesota. If you can find ANYTHING good to say about that... then I\'ll give you your do.

A fan cheers the loudest when the team is winning and boos the oudest when they are losing. A spectator just enjoys watching the games.
Which one are you??
Really?

I don\'t have children but I do have a dog..
So if my dog tooka crap on my living room floor, what would you have me do...
Tell him he\'s a good boy and just hope and pray that NEXT time he won\'t do it??????

No, brother... You rub his nose in it and make sure he doesn\'t even think of doing it again.

The weather is always 72 degrees and perfect, in the Dome