Offensive Line (educational)

Jack Vegas · 12-16-2013, 12:53 PM

In my opinion, de la Puente is not necessarily the problem. Communication is the problem. I would argue that's as much because we are constantly shuffling 4-5 different people on and off the field on every play. For road games I would like to see the offense dumbed down a little bit and keep the same personnel groupings on the field for longer stretches.

If you're talking about offensive line strictly, I would argue that both Brown and Grubbs are bigger problems than the center. Brown has been an issue all year, and while Grubbs isn't bad, he's not that great either. Certainly not worth the $9 a year contract he's getting.

TheOak · 12-16-2013, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

In my opinion, de la Puente is not necessarily the problem. Communication is the problem. I would argue that's as much because we are constantly shuffling 4-5 different people on and off the field on every play. For road games I would like to see the offense dumbed down a little bit and keep the same personnel groupings on the field for longer stretches.

If you're talking about offensive line strictly, I would argue that both Brown and Grubbs are bigger problems than the center. Brown has been an issue all year, and while Grubbs isn't bad, he's not that great either. Certainly not worth the $9 a year contract he's getting.

We have shuffled people off and on the field since Sean Payton has been here.

Alternative view... DLP not handling the calls at the LoS is the biggest issue. If he were doing that, Drew wouldn't have had multiple delay of game penalties after frikken time outs.

Here is something most do not realize... You know where we have the most rushing success? Between Brown and Grubs, Most rushing TDs between Brown and Grubs, most yards after contact and broken tackles.. between Brown and Grubs. Best two Run Blocking linemen graded till now? Brown and Grubs...

Jack Vegas · 12-16-2013, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

We have shuffled people off and on the field since Sean Payton has been here.

Not as much as in the last couple years. It's gotten too cute. I can understand 1-2 guys coming off regularly but it's too much. Getting 4-5 guys on the field, then setting everything up has to take a lot of time. Especially on the road, we are getting down to the wire on the play clock on a regular basis and you know that has a bad effect on timing. The offensive is unprepared at the snap, and I have a hard time believing that is all on the center. Some of it has to be due to the delay of getting all those personnel groupings in and then whatever checkdowns and audibles are going on.

12-16-2013, 12:53 PM	#1
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Offensive Line (educational) In my opinion, de la Puente is not necessarily the problem. Communication is the problem. I would argue that's as much because we are constantly shuffling 4-5 different people on and off the field on every play. For road games I would like to see the offense dumbed down a little bit and keep the same personnel groupings on the field for longer stretches. If you're talking about offensive line strictly, I would argue that both Brown and Grubbs are bigger problems than the center. Brown has been an issue all year, and while Grubbs isn't bad, he's not that great either. Certainly not worth the $9 a year contract he's getting.
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12-16-2013, 01:07 PM	#2
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Offensive Line (educational) Originally Posted by Jack Vegas In my opinion, de la Puente is not necessarily the problem. Communication is the problem. I would argue that's as much because we are constantly shuffling 4-5 different people on and off the field on every play. For road games I would like to see the offense dumbed down a little bit and keep the same personnel groupings on the field for longer stretches. If you're talking about offensive line strictly, I would argue that both Brown and Grubbs are bigger problems than the center. Brown has been an issue all year, and while Grubbs isn't bad, he's not that great either. Certainly not worth the $9 a year contract he's getting. We have shuffled people off and on the field since Sean Payton has been here. Alternative view... DLP not handling the calls at the LoS is the biggest issue. If he were doing that, Drew wouldn't have had multiple delay of game penalties after frikken time outs. Here is something most do not realize... You know where we have the most rushing success? Between Brown and Grubs, Most rushing TDs between Brown and Grubs, most yards after contact and broken tackles.. between Brown and Grubs. Best two Run Blocking linemen graded till now? Brown and Grubs... WhoDat2301 likes this.

12-16-2013, 01:38 PM	#3
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Offensive Line (educational) Originally Posted by TheOak We have shuffled people off and on the field since Sean Payton has been here. Not as much as in the last couple years. It's gotten too cute. I can understand 1-2 guys coming off regularly but it's too much. Getting 4-5 guys on the field, then setting everything up has to take a lot of time. Especially on the road, we are getting down to the wire on the play clock on a regular basis and you know that has a bad effect on timing. The offensive is unprepared at the snap, and I have a hard time believing that is all on the center. Some of it has to be due to the delay of getting all those personnel groupings in and then whatever checkdowns and audibles are going on.
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