Sean Payton’s ego has cost Saints

WhoDat!656 · 12-27-2013, 09:24 AM

New Orleans Saints: Sean Payton?s ego has cost Saints

Budsdrinker · 12-27-2013, 09:37 AM

Hard to disagree!

Mardigras9 · 12-27-2013, 09:46 AM

Blame Payton for NOT feeding Ingram the ball. Blame Payton FOR feeding Ingram the ball three straight times.
BLAME Payton for the fake FG gamble. PRAISE payton for the on-side gamble.
Damn I'm dizzy.

His play calling was a direct result in those two games of the all out assault on his QB. I still have the faith in him (even with his aggressive trends).

K Major · 12-27-2013, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by Mardigras9

Blame Payton for NOT feeding Ingram the ball.

"Against the Panthers and Rams, his blatant disregard of and trust in the run game was embarrassing".

I can agree with that. Ingram was well on his way to a 100+ run game against a very good run defense. Hopefully we go back to basics on sunday.

The Dude · 12-27-2013, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by Mardigras9

Blame Payton for NOT feeding Ingram the ball. Blame Payton FOR feeding Ingram the ball three straight times.
BLAME Payton for the fake FG gamble. PRAISE payton for the on-side gamble.
Damn I'm dizzy.

His play calling was a direct result in those two games of the all out assault on his QB. I still have the faith in him (even with his aggressive trends).

He has always been aggressive and been a gambler. This mentality got us a Lombardi. Its high risk high reward and just the way he is. Its easy to blame him when it doesn't pay off but I think the payoffs have outweighed the negatives.

UK_WhoDat · 12-27-2013, 10:32 AM

Sheesh! Damned if he does. Damned if he does not.
Ego is bad when we lose. Ego is good when we win.
It is what it is.

Either we think he is a decent a coach overall, or we don't. Make up your minds and then justify it. But whatever there is no perfect man out there.

NonieT · 12-27-2013, 10:41 AM

Payton runs the same kind of plays that won us a Superbowl. Now all of a sudden it's his ego. Payton is just being who he is, aggressive. Sometimes it does not work most of the time it does. Give the man a break. He's a great coach and that article is a load of crap. If everything he tried had worked, that article never would have been written.

Boutte · 12-27-2013, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by NonieT

Payton runs the same kind of plays that won us a Superbowl. Now all of a sudden it's his ego. Payton is just being who he is, aggressive. Sometimes it does not work most of the time it does. Give the man a break. He's a great coach and that article is a load of crap. If everything he tried had worked, that article never would have been written.

That "article" is just a glorified fan forum post. Anybody can be a blog columnist.

WillSaints81 · 12-28-2013, 02:10 AM

Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat

Sheesh! Damned if he does. Damned if he does not.
Ego is bad when we lose. Ego is good when we win.
It is what it is.

Either we think he is a decent a coach overall, or we don't. Make up your minds and then justify it. But whatever there is no perfect man out there.

No one is saying he shouldn't coach. Payton brought the playcalling coach trend to the NFL. But Payton also could be considered the Pat Riley/Doc Rivers of the team. He is the emotional support the team needs.

hagan714 · 12-27-2013, 10:49 AM

i hate when he tries to out scheme a defense but in his defense he needs to address the OL issues so his hands are tied a bit on that one.

Till we get back to a balanced attack that produces consistently on the ground as well as through the air he will drive me nuts at times.

So expect to see the saints use the run and passing attacks pretty evenly between the 30's then go to an unbalanced attack in side the opponents 30. pass pass pass. with a run thrown in to see if we catch the defense napping.

i do not mind the heavy passing attack from 20 to 30 yards out because that always seemed to be drew comfort zone. but one time i want to see the saint jam the ball down an opponents (playoff caliber team) mouth for that last 30 yards and dare them to stop us.

when SP has faith in the run game again he will go back to it. but the faith is not there. so it will be those cute plays that fail that will get this type of crap written about him. Cuteness can get you sick to stomach

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Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Sean Payton’s ego has cost Saints Blame Payton for NOT feeding Ingram the ball. Blame Payton FOR feeding Ingram the ball three straight times. BLAME Payton for the fake FG gamble. PRAISE payton for the on-side gamble. Damn I'm dizzy. His play calling was a direct result in those two games of the all out assault on his QB. I still have the faith in him (even with his aggressive trends). savoyk and CoreyO like this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Sean Payton’s ego has cost Saints Originally Posted by Mardigras9 Blame Payton for NOT feeding Ingram the ball. "Against the Panthers and Rams, his blatant disregard of and trust in the run game was embarrassing". I can agree with that. Ingram was well on his way to a 100+ run game against a very good run defense. Hopefully we go back to basics on sunday. RockyMountainSaint likes this.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Sean Payton’s ego has cost Saints Originally Posted by Mardigras9 Blame Payton for NOT feeding Ingram the ball. Blame Payton FOR feeding Ingram the ball three straight times. BLAME Payton for the fake FG gamble. PRAISE payton for the on-side gamble. Damn I'm dizzy. His play calling was a direct result in those two games of the all out assault on his QB. I still have the faith in him (even with his aggressive trends). He has always been aggressive and been a gambler. This mentality got us a Lombardi. Its high risk high reward and just the way he is. Its easy to blame him when it doesn't pay off but I think the payoffs have outweighed the negatives.
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12-27-2013, 10:32 AM	#6
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 4,000	Re: Sean Payton’s ego has cost Saints Sheesh! Damned if he does. Damned if he does not. Ego is bad when we lose. Ego is good when we win. It is what it is. Either we think he is a decent a coach overall, or we don't. Make up your minds and then justify it. But whatever there is no perfect man out there.

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NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Sean Payton’s ego has cost Saints Payton runs the same kind of plays that won us a Superbowl. Now all of a sudden it's his ego. Payton is just being who he is, aggressive. Sometimes it does not work most of the time it does. Give the man a break. He's a great coach and that article is a load of crap. If everything he tried had worked, that article never would have been written. Halo, Boutte and SaintGup like this.
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12-27-2013, 03:33 PM	#8
Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Re: Sean Payton’s ego has cost Saints Originally Posted by NonieT Payton runs the same kind of plays that won us a Superbowl. Now all of a sudden it's his ego. Payton is just being who he is, aggressive. Sometimes it does not work most of the time it does. Give the man a break. He's a great coach and that article is a load of crap. If everything he tried had worked, that article never would have been written. That "article" is just a glorified fan forum post. Anybody can be a blog columnist.

12-28-2013, 02:10 AM	#9
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Sean Payton’s ego has cost Saints Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat Sheesh! Damned if he does. Damned if he does not. Ego is bad when we lose. Ego is good when we win. It is what it is. Either we think he is a decent a coach overall, or we don't. Make up your minds and then justify it. But whatever there is no perfect man out there. No one is saying he shouldn't coach. Payton brought the playcalling coach trend to the NFL. But Payton also could be considered the Pat Riley/Doc Rivers of the team. He is the emotional support the team needs.

12-27-2013, 10:49 AM	#10
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Sean Payton’s ego has cost Saints i hate when he tries to out scheme a defense but in his defense he needs to address the OL issues so his hands are tied a bit on that one. Till we get back to a balanced attack that produces consistently on the ground as well as through the air he will drive me nuts at times. So expect to see the saints use the run and passing attacks pretty evenly between the 30's then go to an unbalanced attack in side the opponents 30. pass pass pass. with a run thrown in to see if we catch the defense napping. i do not mind the heavy passing attack from 20 to 30 yards out because that always seemed to be drew comfort zone. but one time i want to see the saint jam the ball down an opponents (playoff caliber team) mouth for that last 30 yards and dare them to stop us. when SP has faith in the run game again he will go back to it. but the faith is not there. so it will be those cute plays that fail that will get this type of crap written about him. Cuteness can get you sick to stomach Rugby Saint II likes this.
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