Seattle's Defense Relies On a Brazen Tactic: Rampant Interference

SeahawkDude · 01-11-2014, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

from the Wall Street Journal of all places.

Yeah I was curious about that. Why doesn't the WSJ stick to what it knows best.........Making MONEY!

Utah_Saint · 01-11-2014, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by SeahawkDude

Yeah I was curious about that. Why doesn't the WSJ stick to what it knows best.........Making MONEY!

Yeah, that surprised me too. Would've made sense if it were about the business of the NFL.

Maybe they're testing the waters for a sports page.

JayHawk777 · 01-11-2014, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

Are you referring to our fans or the Browns fans?
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...59026428,d.cGU

Anyone know how I can send Kevin Gilbride a pack of Alaskan Amber?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/11/gilbride-says-seahawks-have-perfected-the-art-of-pass-interference/

Great timing!

Gilbride is all sour grapes. The Hawks picked off Eli 5 times a month ago. In fact, if you look at this NFL network recap, you will see one of the best, if not the best, interception in covering VCruz on a crossing route. Those routes are extremely difficult to avoid a flag thrown because typically the DB drapes his outside hand arm around the receiver or gets contact too early.

Look at 1:45 and Byron Maxwell makes a PERFECT play to pick off the Eli pass.

On all 5 interceptions there are NO HOLDINGS, NO INTERFERENCE.

The biggest culprit was Brandon Browner and he's not even playing and won't play for the Hawks again. Don't buy into all of the hyperbole garbage. Hawks aren't innocent but you do something a few times and suddenly it's every play.

Take a few minutes, if you'd like, and educate yourself on the LOB. Don't settle for media,, sour grapes or story writing propaganda.

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Utah_Saint · 01-11-2014, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by JayHawk777

Gilbride is all sour grapes.
Don't settle for media,, sour grapes or story writing propaganda.

If it were just Kevin Gilbride then I'd be right there with you on the "sour grapes" thing, but it's not just Gilbride.

Several ESPN analysts just did a story about it too. They say they've been studying the tape. And why do you think Mike Pereira would lend his name to the story, unless he thinks there's something to it as well? Does he have a grudge against the Seahawks too? His reputation as being fair, is what his current career as an officiating expert is based on.

JayHawk777 · 01-11-2014, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

If it were just Kevin Gilbride then I'd be right there with you on the "sour grapes" thing, but it's not just Gilbride.

Several ESPN analysts just did a story about it too. They say they've been studying the tape. And why do you thing Mike Pereira would lend his name to the story, unless he thinks there's something to it as well? Does he have a grudge against the Seahawks too? His reputation as being fair, is what his current career as an officiating expert is based on.

The one adjective that doesn't describe me is a "homer". I was honest about our O to Oak.

Do you remember many blatant holding or interference plays against your squad back in December?

The 5 interceptions against the Giants were all clean.

Who are the culprits? The biggest was Browner and he's not playing. Sherman has his guilty moments, no doubt. Maxwell? WT3?

It's overblown. I read Dilfer's words but do any of these analysts actually corroborate their hyperbole journalism with videos? Pick a game and show all of the pass plays with documentation.

When I evaluate college talent for the Hawks, I don't rely on highlights, but every play of the game that they're involved in. JPasq has excellent vids that show plays with a box around the player and for each snap whether they're O or D.

Let's see game tape. While I showed highlights of the Hawks' 5 picks, you'd think there'd be some type of infraction on at least one of the picks, right? Right.

Was there? A resounding NO....

It's overblown.

KCHawkGirl · 01-11-2014, 01:27 PM

Actually it's a completely legal tactic to totally mug wide receivers if the quarterback is outside the pocket. Your CB's have to be insanely athletic and physical to do it and know EXACTLY where the quarterback is while still covering their man. Not as easy as it seems.

Utah_Saint · 01-11-2014, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by JayHawk777

The one adjective that doesn't describe me is a "homer". I was honest about our O to Oak.

Do you remember many blatant holding or interference plays against your squad back in December?

The 5 interceptions against the Giants were all clean.

Who are the culprits? The biggest was Browner and he's not playing. Sherman has his guilty moments, no doubt. Maxwell? WT3?

It's overblown. I read Dilfer's words but do any of these analysts actually corroborate their hyperbole journalism with videos? Pick a game and show all of the pass plays with documentation.

When I evaluate college talent for the Hawks, I don't rely on highlights, but every play of the game that they're involved in. JPasq has excellent vids that show plays with a box around the player and for each snap whether they're O or D.

Let's see game tape. While I showed highlights of the Hawks' 5 picks, you'd think there'd be some type of infraction on at least one of the picks, right? Right.

Was there? A resounding NO....

It's overblown.

Just curious...
Why do you think so many people are risking their reputations as impartial by talking about it.

|Mitch| · 01-11-2014, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by KCHawkGirl

Actually it's a completely legal tactic to totally mug wide receivers if the quarterback is outside the pocket. Your CB's have to be insanely athletic and physical to do it and know EXACTLY where the quarterback is while still covering their man. Not as easy as it seems.

that's bull****, you can only "mug" or press receivers within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage. As long as the QB is behind the line of scrimmage(doesn't matter where), defensive pass interference is still in effect down the field

The tackle box rule only exists for intentional grounding

NFL Rules Digest: Pass Interference

Utah_Saint · 01-11-2014, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

that's bull****, you can only "mug" or press receivers within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage. As long as the QB is behind the line of scrimmage(doesn't matter where), defensive pass interference is still in effect down the field

The tackle box rule only exists for intentional grounding

NFL Rules Digest: Pass Interference

As usual, you beat me to it Mitch.

I'll add this link too though.

NFL Rules Digest: Use of Hands, Arms, and Body

RailBoss · 01-11-2014, 01:58 PM

This Gilbride ProSports link is working.

Gilbride says Seahawks have

01-11-2014, 12:36 PM	#21
SeahawkDude Rookie Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: The Great Pacific NW Posts: 15	Re: Seattle's Defense Relies On a Brazen Tactic: Rampant Interference Originally Posted by Utah_Saint from the Wall Street Journal of all places. Yeah I was curious about that. Why doesn't the WSJ stick to what it knows best.........Making MONEY!

01-11-2014, 12:39 PM	#22
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Seattle's Defense Relies On a Brazen Tactic: Rampant Interference Originally Posted by SeahawkDude Yeah I was curious about that. Why doesn't the WSJ stick to what it knows best.........Making MONEY! Yeah, that surprised me too. Would've made sense if it were about the business of the NFL. Maybe they're testing the waters for a sports page.

01-11-2014, 01:05 PM	#24
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Seattle's Defense Relies On a Brazen Tactic: Rampant Interference Originally Posted by JayHawk777 Gilbride is all sour grapes. Don't settle for media,, sour grapes or story writing propaganda. If it were just Kevin Gilbride then I'd be right there with you on the "sour grapes" thing, but it's not just Gilbride. Several ESPN analysts just did a story about it too. They say they've been studying the tape. And why do you think Mike Pereira would lend his name to the story, unless he thinks there's something to it as well? Does he have a grudge against the Seahawks too? His reputation as being fair, is what his current career as an officiating expert is based on.

01-11-2014, 01:19 PM	#25
JayHawk777 Rookie Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 11	Re: Seattle's Defense Relies On a Brazen Tactic: Rampant Interference Originally Posted by Utah_Saint If it were just Kevin Gilbride then I'd be right there with you on the "sour grapes" thing, but it's not just Gilbride. Several ESPN analysts just did a story about it too. They say they've been studying the tape. And why do you thing Mike Pereira would lend his name to the story, unless he thinks there's something to it as well? Does he have a grudge against the Seahawks too? His reputation as being fair, is what his current career as an officiating expert is based on. The one adjective that doesn't describe me is a "homer". I was honest about our O to Oak. Do you remember many blatant holding or interference plays against your squad back in December? The 5 interceptions against the Giants were all clean. Who are the culprits? The biggest was Browner and he's not playing. Sherman has his guilty moments, no doubt. Maxwell? WT3? It's overblown. I read Dilfer's words but do any of these analysts actually corroborate their hyperbole journalism with videos? Pick a game and show all of the pass plays with documentation. When I evaluate college talent for the Hawks, I don't rely on highlights, but every play of the game that they're involved in. JPasq has excellent vids that show plays with a box around the player and for each snap whether they're O or D. Let's see game tape. While I showed highlights of the Hawks' 5 picks, you'd think there'd be some type of infraction on at least one of the picks, right? Right. Was there? A resounding NO.... It's overblown.
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01-11-2014, 01:27 PM	#26
KCHawkGirl Rookie Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 21	Re: Seattle's Defense Relies On a Brazen Tactic: Rampant Interference Actually it's a completely legal tactic to totally mug wide receivers if the quarterback is outside the pocket. Your CB's have to be insanely athletic and physical to do it and know EXACTLY where the quarterback is while still covering their man. Not as easy as it seems.
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01-11-2014, 01:36 PM	#27
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Seattle's Defense Relies On a Brazen Tactic: Rampant Interference Originally Posted by JayHawk777 The one adjective that doesn't describe me is a "homer". I was honest about our O to Oak. Do you remember many blatant holding or interference plays against your squad back in December? The 5 interceptions against the Giants were all clean. Who are the culprits? The biggest was Browner and he's not playing. Sherman has his guilty moments, no doubt. Maxwell? WT3? It's overblown. I read Dilfer's words but do any of these analysts actually corroborate their hyperbole journalism with videos? Pick a game and show all of the pass plays with documentation. When I evaluate college talent for the Hawks, I don't rely on highlights, but every play of the game that they're involved in. JPasq has excellent vids that show plays with a box around the player and for each snap whether they're O or D. Let's see game tape. While I showed highlights of the Hawks' 5 picks, you'd think there'd be some type of infraction on at least one of the picks, right? Right. Was there? A resounding NO.... It's overblown. Just curious... Why do you think so many people are risking their reputations as impartial by talking about it.

01-11-2014, 01:37 PM	#28
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Seattle's Defense Relies On a Brazen Tactic: Rampant Interference Originally Posted by KCHawkGirl Actually it's a completely legal tactic to totally mug wide receivers if the quarterback is outside the pocket. Your CB's have to be insanely athletic and physical to do it and know EXACTLY where the quarterback is while still covering their man. Not as easy as it seems. that's bull****, you can only "mug" or press receivers within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage. As long as the QB is behind the line of scrimmage(doesn't matter where), defensive pass interference is still in effect down the field The tackle box rule only exists for intentional grounding NFL Rules Digest: Pass Interference Utah_Saint likes this.

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Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Seattle's Defense Relies On a Brazen Tactic: Rampant Interference Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| that's bull****, you can only "mug" or press receivers within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage. As long as the QB is behind the line of scrimmage(doesn't matter where), defensive pass interference is still in effect down the field The tackle box rule only exists for intentional grounding NFL Rules Digest: Pass Interference As usual, you beat me to it Mitch. I'll add this link too though. NFL Rules Digest: Use of Hands, Arms, and Body \|Mitch\| likes this.

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