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[Exxcalibur]

Man, how did we lose to Car? /hangs head

[lsusaint912]

Originally Posted by Exxcalibur

Man, how did we lose to Car? /hangs head

I know right?? Well the last game i can tell you why.. Our offense struggled corey white got beat on an out route, but on this forum people blame malcom jenkins for the missed sack.. Which i guess he should have got..me personally blame corey white.. Ok saints fans let me have it lol jk

[lsusaint912]

Originally Posted by lsusaint912

I know right?? Well the last game i can tell you why.. Our offense struggled corey white got beat on an out route, but on this forum people blame malcom jenkins for the missed sack.. Which i guess he should have got..me personally blame corey white.. Ok saints fans let me have it lol jk

Let me take that blame off corey white even though he did get beat i blame our offense.. Can ya belive that we have offense problems for the first time since 2006 and now we praise our d.. But i love it and hate it.. If we had the same offense too go together with this defense.. Superbowl hands down.. Now we had to watch the panthers stink up the joint, but if it was us we would have got to the superbowl

[Halo]

Originally Posted by lsusaint912

Let me take that blame off corey white even though he did get beat i blame our offense.. Can ya belive that we have offense problems for the first time since 2006 and now we praise our d.. But i love it

I think this was the root of frustration with the fan base. Defense did what so many, myself included, asked - deliver a top 10.... to 15 (at least) defense. I long said if we had a defense ranked 15 or above overall we would march to the super bowl. 2009 was similar with extremely high take-aways.

So defense showed up in '13..... and the offense SUCKED wind! Saints fans are trained to expect a shoot-out on offense and hope the defense can slow the opponent down. Exactly what happened in '09-10 superbowl season. Collectively as Saints fans, we do not have the palette to appreciate a defense. We wait for the offense to come onto the field of play, so the frustrations run with our offense.

Our defense was stingy, even after losing greer and vaccarro. Or d-line started to get nasty. Best top 4 defense to never get "named" in the NFL. We just don't know how to take it with an impotent offense. Dome Patrol era, the offense was a wet rag - everyone waited for the defense to come on the field. People would go get beers or nachos when the offense was on the field. Now we're trained for the opposite and we don't appreciate what our defense accomplished this season.

[WHODATINCA]

Originally Posted by Halo

So defense showed up in '13..... and the offense SUCKED wind! .... Collectively as Saints fans, we do not have the palette to appreciate a defense.

Now we're trained for the opposite and we don't appreciate what our defense accomplished this season.

I have the palette. Our defense MADE THE SEASON FOR US. The offense? They showed up in the dome.

[Utah_Saint]

Originally Posted by Halo

I think this was the root of frustration with the fan base. Defense did what so many, myself included, asked - deliver a top 10.... to 15 (at least) defense. I long said if we had a defense ranked 15 or above overall we would march to the super bowl. 2009 was similar with extremely high take-aways.

So defense showed up in '13..... and the offense SUCKED wind! Saints fans are trained to expect a shoot-out on offense and hope the defense can slow the opponent down. Exactly what happened in '09-10 superbowl season. Collectively as Saints fans, we do not have the palette to appreciate a defense. We wait for the offense to come onto the field of play, so the frustrations run with our offense.

Our defense was stingy, even after losing greer and vaccarro. Or d-line started to get nasty. Best top 4 defense to never get "named" in the NFL. We just don't know how to take it with an impotent offense. Dome Patrol era, the offense was a wet rag - everyone waited for the defense to come on the field. People would go get beers or nachos when the offense was on the field. Now we're trained for the opposite and we don't appreciate what our defense accomplished this season.

Number 4 in total offensive yards and number 10 in points scored = "Sucked Wind" and "impotent"?

That's a pretty high standard.

[Halo]

Originally Posted by Exxcalibur

Man, how did we lose to Car? /hangs head

It's real simple, exactly like yesterday our offense did NOT execute and get the job done.
In the Carolina game sCam Newton had 1 completion in the second half that broke our backs. The Panthers then got a short pass for TD just after. We contained them the entire half, but turnovers, missed opportunities on 3rd down, stalled drives, dropped balls and poor execution on offense lost us that game.

No different yesterday. We had Seattle on the run in the second half and had the ball, but forced to play field possession game only because the offense was simply not able to execute. If any points were given away, we gave away 7 points on 1 turnover. All of it proved to be too much.

I seriously cannot blame the defense for anything this season. A complete turnaround if you ask me. We have a talent laced offense that was unable to get the job done. Even when the o-line gave Brees 10 seconds to pass, wide receivers were simply NOT open.

I would cut the fat at ALL receiver positions and cut costs against salary cap there first, then bring in kids who want to fight for catching the football (like our current receivers did before they got paid big time), and finally beef up the NEWLY improved o-line. Brady is going to the AFC championship with a beefy o-line and NO-NAME kids and journeymen at wide receiver. We need to follow this model.