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[nycsaintfan]

Chalk it up sometimes to your opponent. Sherman is an @$$... but is a hell of a competitor.

I'd rather the Saints move forward with Graham than without him...

[WhoDat!656]

Soft is putting it mildly!

[halloween 65]

Pudding is more like it.

[WhoDat!656]

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Pudding is more like it.

1995 Jell-O Pudding Commercial (with Bill Cosby) - YouTube

1995 Jell-O Pudding Commercial (with Bill Cosby) - YouTube

[saintz9to80]

He has been playing hurt. Before the injury...wasn't any soft talk. Wasn't soft when he bounced off dudes to score against SF in the playoffs. Least he didn't sit out the season after the injury. He does need to work on getting off the line but he's got time to improve. Real problem is we don't have a #1 wr to keep defenses off him. If we had a Josh Gordon...Jimmy'd get his catches every game.

[NoZone504]

He's a receiver in a tight ends body..The post up routes didn't work..not bball...How they use him makes him look soft but he's far from soft..I've seen Jimmy take some mean hits and keep trucking

[rezburna]

He alligator arms more catches then a little bit. Bouncing off a couple tackles doesn't make him hard. He's not making a TRUE effort to truck people. The only time you really see him fight is if he's close to the end zone. Almost everytime Brees has thrown a pick this year guess who he's targeting? Yep. Jimmy "6 foot 8 but won't fight for the ball or bat it down" Graham. How the hell are you letting Earl Thomas run through you? You can't box him out? Why can't you get off the line on cornerbacks? Much less safeties and linebackers? How come we can't win jump ball fades with you in the back of the end zone?

Now I think Jimmy Graham is a great player. But as long as he's the Saints primary weapon we have a problem. Colston isn't a true number 1 anymore, and the fact that he's slow and always has been is catching up with him since he's getting older. Lance Moore has random outbreaks of his old self. Stills is under utilized. Sproles can walk. He's almost 30 and losing speed and quickness by the day. It's pretty much time to revamp this whole offense, turn Jimmy Graham into the 2nd or 3rd option, and fine a true #1 receiver and people with toughness, speed, and who can beat the press. I always felt like we were and overall slow team at every position across the board.

[Donuts32]

I don't know what's soft about playing with a partial tear in your foot. He was playing damn good football before that injury. I will say is that we over use him way too much. We need to find a TE in the draft that compliments him because Josh Hill is not the answer.

[rezburna]

Jimmy Graham isn't the only guy in the NFL playing hurt. He isn't even the only guy on the Saints playing with a boo boo. I guarantee he'll still want top dollar next year for this ****ty ass playoff performance. Everytime we faced a top opponent they took him out the game. He doesn't like physicality. Whining about all those clean plays Earl Thomas made on him. Come back and attack the ball if you want the catch that bad.

Soft.

[saintfan]

He's not soft. That's just silly. He still has a thing or three to learn about playing the TE position - and WR position too for that matter.

But uh, no. He's not soft.