Adam Schein: Drew Brees Isn't Elite

Danno · 02-12-2014, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by exile

Brees was 2nd in yardage, and completion percentage (higher than Rodgers). Oh, and 2nd in TDs and ypg. But he did get sacked 37 times. I guess we could stretch it and call that all his fault.

3rd most pass attempts in the NFL
7th in yards per pass attempt
7th in passer rating
13th most interceptions in the NFL
16th most sacked

One could argue he's better than 4th, and one could argue maybe not.

I have no problem with him being ranked 4th. That's about right in my opinion.

Rell&Gold · 02-12-2014, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

3rd most pass attempts in the NFL
7th in yards per pass attempt
7th in passer rating
13th most interceptions in the NFL
16th most sacked

One could argue he's better than 4th, and one could argue maybe not.

I have no problem with him being ranked 4th. That's about right in my opinion.

In YOUR opinion, you have yours everyone else has theirs if they feel like he discredited Drew by saying he's the fourth best QB then so be it, we are fans
#9 is the new #1

AlaskaSaints · 02-12-2014, 06:47 PM

And if we play the same offensive play book next year, Drew will fall further down the list.

Quality coaches see right through Drew.

We had better bring a stepped up game next year or we will be in decline.

Alaska

lumm0x · 02-12-2014, 09:54 PM

Adam Shein is not entertaining. When I hear "lotta pop, lotta sizzle" I want to punch through my Sirius radio. He is a mouthpiece with little to no knowledge of the game. Contradicts himself constantly and is nothing more than fluff on the radio. I'm glad he's off the Sirius NFL channel now.

As for Brees, my opinion is he is right about 4th at this time in his career. There are times he was the best and most season he's been in the top 3 mix. He will be a first ballot HOFer and he is a top 10-15 QB all time. Anyone who ******* about that doesn't remember our team history and has become spoiled.

WillSaints81 · 02-14-2014, 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by Saintaintso

Brees is Elite ... But he's not entirely elite ... He disappears on the road. Oh and I've never seen us win when down a couple TDs either... Brady Manning and Rodgers have erased 28 point deficits like a knife through butter ... Would like to see Brees do it ...

Brees also does most of his damage after the game is well in the bag... But when we need a score most we get absolutely nothing ( In seattles 30 8 ) times only come away with 15 points ... We need him to find that next gear

When has Rodgers come back from 28 points down? I don't recall that at all and the only time Brady erases a 28 point deficit is when its against his archrival Manning or crap teams like Cleveland(was that even 28?).

ChrisXVI · 02-14-2014, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by Saintaintso

Brees is Elite ... But he's not entirely elite ... He disappears on the road. Oh and I've never seen us win when down a couple TDs either... Brady Manning and Rodgers have erased 28 point deficits like a knife through butter ... Would like to see Brees do it ...

Brees also does most of his damage after the game is well in the bag... But when we need a score most we get absolutely nothing ( In seattles 30 8 ) times only come away with 15 points ... We need him to find that next gear

What are you talking about?! We've had so many comebacks over the years. That doesn't make any sense.

papz · 02-14-2014, 10:40 PM

pumpkindriver · 02-15-2014, 12:35 AM

Schein has a NE bias, always has, always will. Glad he is off the NFL channel and on the clown channel known as Mad Dog radio. Hes very good at getting people riled up so they will call into his show but no one should ever take his opinions too seriously b/c they are calculated to piss you off.

OldMaid · 02-15-2014, 09:41 AM

Reagarding this Adam, Schein,
what the hell is he talking about?

He is simply a talking head who would rather than say something really truthful that requires thought and would be thought provoking and have him stand alone against his colleagues, he says the same ole stupid stuff of elite qb's.

What makes one an elite qb?
It is the overall, total,complete career.
DBrees fits that.
I am not saying this because I am a DBrees fan.
Jim Kelly was even though he never won a SB.
Bret Farve was and I never liked him.
Kurt Warner was not even though he won a SB.
Eli Mannig is not even though he won two SB's.
PManning IS AN ELITE QB even though he lost two SB's.
Archie Manning is not and was a not a great qb either.
Sorry.
Just for example. I was just watching a Mannig show on HBO. It was really good.

darksoul35 · 02-15-2014, 06:48 PM

Lets give all the other QBs the starting left tackle Brees had most of the year and see if they can even walk again. More less put up the numbers that he did.

02-12-2014, 04:16 PM	#41
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Adam Schein: Drew Brees Isn't Elite Originally Posted by exile Brees was 2nd in yardage, and completion percentage (higher than Rodgers). Oh, and 2nd in TDs and ypg. But he did get sacked 37 times. I guess we could stretch it and call that all his fault. 3rd most pass attempts in the NFL 7th in yards per pass attempt 7th in passer rating 13th most interceptions in the NFL 16th most sacked One could argue he's better than 4th, and one could argue maybe not. I have no problem with him being ranked 4th. That's about right in my opinion.

02-12-2014, 06:41 PM	#42
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887	Re: Adam Schein: Drew Brees Isn't Elite Originally Posted by Danno 3rd most pass attempts in the NFL 7th in yards per pass attempt 7th in passer rating 13th most interceptions in the NFL 16th most sacked One could argue he's better than 4th, and one could argue maybe not. I have no problem with him being ranked 4th. That's about right in my opinion. In YOUR opinion, you have yours everyone else has theirs if they feel like he discredited Drew by saying he's the fourth best QB then so be it, we are fans #9 is the new #1 exile likes this.

02-12-2014, 06:47 PM	#43
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Adam Schein: Drew Brees Isn't Elite And if we play the same offensive play book next year, Drew will fall further down the list. Quality coaches see right through Drew. We had better bring a stepped up game next year or we will be in decline. Alaska K Major likes this.

02-12-2014, 09:54 PM	#44
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Re: Adam Schein: Drew Brees Isn't Elite Adam Shein is not entertaining. When I hear "lotta pop, lotta sizzle" I want to punch through my Sirius radio. He is a mouthpiece with little to no knowledge of the game. Contradicts himself constantly and is nothing more than fluff on the radio. I'm glad he's off the Sirius NFL channel now. As for Brees, my opinion is he is right about 4th at this time in his career. There are times he was the best and most season he's been in the top 3 mix. He will be a first ballot HOFer and he is a top 10-15 QB all time. Anyone who ******* about that doesn't remember our team history and has become spoiled. pumpkindriver likes this.

02-14-2014, 09:43 PM	#45
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Adam Schein: Drew Brees Isn't Elite Originally Posted by Saintaintso Brees is Elite ... But he's not entirely elite ... He disappears on the road. Oh and I've never seen us win when down a couple TDs either... Brady Manning and Rodgers have erased 28 point deficits like a knife through butter ... Would like to see Brees do it ... Brees also does most of his damage after the game is well in the bag... But when we need a score most we get absolutely nothing ( In seattles 30 8 ) times only come away with 15 points ... We need him to find that next gear When has Rodgers come back from 28 points down? I don't recall that at all and the only time Brady erases a 28 point deficit is when its against his archrival Manning or crap teams like Cleveland(was that even 28?).

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Adam Schein: Drew Brees Isn't Elite Originally Posted by Saintaintso Brees is Elite ... But he's not entirely elite ... He disappears on the road. Oh and I've never seen us win when down a couple TDs either... Brady Manning and Rodgers have erased 28 point deficits like a knife through butter ... Would like to see Brees do it ... Brees also does most of his damage after the game is well in the bag... But when we need a score most we get absolutely nothing ( In seattles 30 8 ) times only come away with 15 points ... We need him to find that next gear What are you talking about?! We've had so many comebacks over the years. That doesn't make any sense. exile likes this.

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02-15-2014, 12:35 AM	#48
pumpkindriver 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Killeen, Tx. Posts: 932	Re: Adam Schein: Drew Brees Isn't Elite Schein has a NE bias, always has, always will. Glad he is off the NFL channel and on the clown channel known as Mad Dog radio. Hes very good at getting people riled up so they will call into his show but no one should ever take his opinions too seriously b/c they are calculated to piss you off.

02-15-2014, 09:41 AM	#49
OldMaid Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,910 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Adam Schein: Drew Brees Isn't Elite Reagarding this Adam, Schein, what the hell is he talking about? He is simply a talking head who would rather than say something really truthful that requires thought and would be thought provoking and have him stand alone against his colleagues, he says the same ole stupid stuff of elite qb's. What makes one an elite qb? It is the overall, total,complete career. DBrees fits that. I am not saying this because I am a DBrees fan. Jim Kelly was even though he never won a SB. Bret Farve was and I never liked him. Kurt Warner was not even though he won a SB. Eli Mannig is not even though he won two SB's. PManning IS AN ELITE QB even though he lost two SB's. Archie Manning is not and was a not a great qb either. Sorry. Just for example. I was just watching a Mannig show on HBO. It was really good.

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darksoul35 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,041	Re: Adam Schein: Drew Brees Isn't Elite Lets give all the other QBs the starting left tackle Brees had most of the year and see if they can even walk again. More less put up the numbers that he did. exile likes this.
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