What now at corner?

Euphoria · 02-13-2014, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by alleycat_126

Why not, if a rookie cb shows he can adapt to the defense quickly then he should start......

Its not that simple. CB's have a lot to grasp.

I like the idea of a vet coming and being our #1 or 2 CB and a rookie coming in in nickel situations and rotating in giving them time to develop.

TheOak · 02-13-2014, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Its not that simple. CB's have a lot to grasp.

I like the idea of a vet coming and being our #1 or 2 CB and a rookie coming in in nickel situations and rotating in giving them time to develop.

So CBs have more to grasp than Safety's? (Vaccaro)

Jack Vegas · 02-13-2014, 12:04 PM

Porter came in 08 and looked great as a rookie. All three teams in our division had rookies started at CB this year that did a good job. I wouldn't assume that just because a guy is a rookie that he can't get the job done.

SaintLeonard · 02-13-2014, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

Maybe "sucks" is a strong word, but he's basically only good at nickel. We don't need a #3 corner. We might need a #2, depending on whether or not you think one of White or Robinson is up to the task.

I personally think White can stay at #2 and be great, but that's just me. But I'm also not opposed to moving him back to nickel. He's proven to be a good player at both positions. But whatever position we stick White at, imo we'll need to address the other one in either FA or the draft. I'm willing to give PRob a chance, but I'm honestly not expecting much. I'd love to be proven wrong, though.

I would love it if we drafted Jason Verrett out of TCU. That guy has cover skills you can't teach. He'd make an immediate impact imo.

K Major · 02-13-2014, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by SaintLeonard

I would love it if we drafted Jason Verrett out of TCU. That guy has cover skills you can't teach. He'd make an immediate impact imo.

+1. You aren't alone on JVerrett. He is a bit undersized for me but very crafty and has good closing speed. What is more impressive to me is that he is a sound, fundamental tackler.

alleycat_126 · 02-13-2014, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

Free agents CB's... buyer's market

2014 NFL Cornerback Free Agent Tracker

highlight the one you want and then click "Add to Cart"

anybody want Porter back?

Absolutely Not......

st thomas · 02-13-2014, 10:40 PM

porter, greer, did p. rob ever prove himself yet. the injuries or the money (got paid) and the hunger goes away. injury has the most impact on declining play I believe.

TheOak · 02-14-2014, 08:07 AM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

It seems like people only remember White's first game after Greer got hurt. After that he seemed to figure things out and was actually really good.

I think people's perceptions are also skewed by him being a fifth-round draft pick from a small school, so they assume he can't be any good. Same for Strief, who by all accounts is one of the top right tackles in football, but to hear some people talk he is straight trash. If any team's fans should know better it's Saints fans, considering how much the team is built around low picks and undrafted guys.

People remember what they want to remember and sometimes fabricate those memories...

Like saying any of our RBs have a fumbling problem.

exile · 02-14-2014, 12:25 PM

Work in progress.

Rugby Saint II · 02-14-2014, 08:40 PM

There are some interesting prospects in the draft. The question is who is better man on man in coverage? We need someone who is capable of big plays.

02-13-2014, 11:53 AM	#31
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: What now at corner? Originally Posted by alleycat_126 Why not, if a rookie cb shows he can adapt to the defense quickly then he should start...... Its not that simple. CB's have a lot to grasp. I like the idea of a vet coming and being our #1 or 2 CB and a rookie coming in in nickel situations and rotating in giving them time to develop. saintsfan1976 and st thomas like this.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: What now at corner? Originally Posted by Euphoria Its not that simple. CB's have a lot to grasp. I like the idea of a vet coming and being our #1 or 2 CB and a rookie coming in in nickel situations and rotating in giving them time to develop. So CBs have more to grasp than Safety's? (Vaccaro) Rell&Gold likes this.

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Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: What now at corner? Porter came in 08 and looked great as a rookie. All three teams in our division had rookies started at CB this year that did a good job. I wouldn't assume that just because a guy is a rookie that he can't get the job done.
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02-13-2014, 05:40 PM	#34
SaintLeonard Bounty hunter Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Nashville Posts: 490	Re: What now at corner? Originally Posted by Jack Vegas Maybe "sucks" is a strong word, but he's basically only good at nickel. We don't need a #3 corner. We might need a #2, depending on whether or not you think one of White or Robinson is up to the task. I personally think White can stay at #2 and be great, but that's just me. But I'm also not opposed to moving him back to nickel. He's proven to be a good player at both positions. But whatever position we stick White at, imo we'll need to address the other one in either FA or the draft. I'm willing to give PRob a chance, but I'm honestly not expecting much. I'd love to be proven wrong, though. I would love it if we drafted Jason Verrett out of TCU. That guy has cover skills you can't teach. He'd make an immediate impact imo.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What now at corner? Originally Posted by SaintLeonard I would love it if we drafted Jason Verrett out of TCU. That guy has cover skills you can't teach. He'd make an immediate impact imo. +1. You aren't alone on JVerrett. He is a bit undersized for me but very crafty and has good closing speed. What is more impressive to me is that he is a sound, fundamental tackler.

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02-13-2014, 10:34 PM	#36
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Re: What now at corner? Originally Posted by ScottF Free agents CB's... buyer's market 2014 NFL Cornerback Free Agent Tracker highlight the one you want and then click "Add to Cart" anybody want Porter back? Absolutely Not......

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st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: What now at corner? porter, greer, did p. rob ever prove himself yet. the injuries or the money (got paid) and the hunger goes away. injury has the most impact on declining play I believe.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: What now at corner? Originally Posted by Jack Vegas It seems like people only remember White's first game after Greer got hurt. After that he seemed to figure things out and was actually really good. I think people's perceptions are also skewed by him being a fifth-round draft pick from a small school, so they assume he can't be any good. Same for Strief, who by all accounts is one of the top right tackles in football, but to hear some people talk he is straight trash. If any team's fans should know better it's Saints fans, considering how much the team is built around low picks and undrafted guys. People remember what they want to remember and sometimes fabricate those memories... Like saying any of our RBs have a fumbling problem.

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