What now at corner?

Utah_Saint · 02-15-2014, 12:54 PM

I don't think the Saints can afford a FA at corner. They've still got to find between $10 and 15 million in cap space just to sign DLP, Strief, Bush and Graham.

Besides that, the Saints had a pretty good pass defense using Lewis and White. They were second in yards allowed, 9th in yards per attempt, and allowed an 83.6 passer rating against.

Also, Robinson was the projected starter at either corner or nickel back positions last season. Overall he wasn't good the year before but almost nobody on Spag's defense looked good. Robinson was able to keep up a very good completion percentage against, and passer rating against. So maybe he'll look good in Ryan's defense.

I don't think the Saints can afford to fix something that wasn't that broken.

Jack Vegas · 02-15-2014, 02:42 PM

I don't think we bring in a big contract at CB either. Maybe a nickel/dime guy who can start in a pinch - that's one of the things I like about Cassius Vaughn. Or a high draft pick. But not somebody that's going to cost you more than a couple million a year. Utah Saint said it best, no need to fix something that was not broken.

Danno · 02-15-2014, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

I don't think the Saints can afford a FA at corner. They've still got to find between $10 and 15 million in cap space just to sign DLP, Strief, Bush and Graham.

Besides that, the Saints had a pretty good pass defense using Lewis and White. They were second in yards allowed, 9th in yards per attempt, and allowed an 83.6 passer rating against.

Also, Robinson was the projected starter at either corner or nickel back positions last season. Overall he wasn't good the year before but almost nobody on Spag's defense looked good. Robinson was able to keep up a very good completion percentage against, and passer rating against. So maybe he'll look good in Ryan's defense.

I don't think the Saints can afford to fix something that wasn't that broken.

FA CB's come is all price ranges. An aging vet with a year or two left in the tank looking to hang on for another season, an up and coming guy off of someone else's practice squad, a mid-range journeyman who can provide depth.

We don't need to sign another Lewis. Someone like a Chris Carr or a tad better will do just fine for depth, and won't cost much at all. Maybe a couple more Trevin Wade types perhaps?

Utah_Saint · 02-15-2014, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

FA CB's come is all price ranges. An aging vet with a year or two left in the tank looking to hang on for another season, an up and coming guy off of someone else's practice squad, a mid-range journeyman who can provide depth.

We don't need to sign another Lewis. Someone like a Chris Carr or a tad better will do just fine for depth, and won't cost much at all. Maybe a couple more Trevin Wade types perhaps?

You're right. I should have specified that my post was a response to the posts that mention Talib, Munnerlyn, Roggers-Cromartie, Grimes...etc.

rezburna · 02-15-2014, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

So CBs have more to grasp than Safety's? (Vaccaro)

No, but it is the hardest position on the field outside of QB.

rezburna · 02-15-2014, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

So CBs have more to grasp than Safety's? (Vaccaro)

No, but it is the hardest position on the field outside of QB.

Danno · 02-15-2014, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

You're right. I should have specified that my post was a response to the posts that mention Talib, Munnerlyn, Roggers-Cromartie, Grimes...etc.

Agreed, I don't think we can afford to go after a top tier FA CB either.

But I can certainly see us going after a mid-tier experienced CB for sure.

CheramieIII · 02-15-2014, 06:12 PM

We will draft a DT or DE in the first round. We will pick up a CB and OT in free agency. Both could be had at a great price for our cap. If we can push salary off to next year we can sign outstanding players at both positions.

rezburna · 02-15-2014, 07:48 PM

What now at corner? Me baby. Catch me at the 2 day open tryouts. Its time.

hagan714 · 02-16-2014, 07:08 AM

Patrick Robinson contrat 2014
cap hit 2,804,333
dead money 1,446,833

cheap risky starter or salary cap causality? injury history makes it a tough call.

the smart money would have the saints drafting one of the developmental CB in the second round on that have a high ceiling. maybe two. CB/FS types

Keith McGill CB/S Utah
Stanley Jean-Baptiste Nebraska
Aaron Colvin, CB, Oklahoma
Pierre Desir, Lindenwood
Walt Aikens Liberty
Dontae Johnson; CB/S, NC State
Jordan Love, CB, Towson
Brandon Dixon NW Missouri St CB/FS

to name a few. its a good year for these types.

CB in round 1 i just do not have faith in ant of them not call them a reach. we need one to fall into our laps but that aint happening

crossing their fingers and praying Pat can stay on the field for once is a huge gamble.

interesting to watch and see what the saints do

02-15-2014, 12:54 PM	#41
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: What now at corner? I don't think the Saints can afford a FA at corner. They've still got to find between $10 and 15 million in cap space just to sign DLP, Strief, Bush and Graham. Besides that, the Saints had a pretty good pass defense using Lewis and White. They were second in yards allowed, 9th in yards per attempt, and allowed an 83.6 passer rating against. Also, Robinson was the projected starter at either corner or nickel back positions last season. Overall he wasn't good the year before but almost nobody on Spag's defense looked good. Robinson was able to keep up a very good completion percentage against, and passer rating against. So maybe he'll look good in Ryan's defense. I don't think the Saints can afford to fix something that wasn't that broken.

02-15-2014, 02:42 PM	#42
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: What now at corner? I don't think we bring in a big contract at CB either. Maybe a nickel/dime guy who can start in a pinch - that's one of the things I like about Cassius Vaughn. Or a high draft pick. But not somebody that's going to cost you more than a couple million a year. Utah Saint said it best, no need to fix something that was not broken. hagan714 likes this.
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02-15-2014, 02:53 PM	#43
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: What now at corner? Originally Posted by Utah_Saint I don't think the Saints can afford a FA at corner. They've still got to find between $10 and 15 million in cap space just to sign DLP, Strief, Bush and Graham. Besides that, the Saints had a pretty good pass defense using Lewis and White. They were second in yards allowed, 9th in yards per attempt, and allowed an 83.6 passer rating against. Also, Robinson was the projected starter at either corner or nickel back positions last season. Overall he wasn't good the year before but almost nobody on Spag's defense looked good. Robinson was able to keep up a very good completion percentage against, and passer rating against. So maybe he'll look good in Ryan's defense. I don't think the Saints can afford to fix something that wasn't that broken. FA CB's come is all price ranges. An aging vet with a year or two left in the tank looking to hang on for another season, an up and coming guy off of someone else's practice squad, a mid-range journeyman who can provide depth. We don't need to sign another Lewis. Someone like a Chris Carr or a tad better will do just fine for depth, and won't cost much at all. Maybe a couple more Trevin Wade types perhaps?

02-15-2014, 04:03 PM	#44
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: What now at corner? Originally Posted by Danno FA CB's come is all price ranges. An aging vet with a year or two left in the tank looking to hang on for another season, an up and coming guy off of someone else's practice squad, a mid-range journeyman who can provide depth. We don't need to sign another Lewis. Someone like a Chris Carr or a tad better will do just fine for depth, and won't cost much at all. Maybe a couple more Trevin Wade types perhaps? You're right. I should have specified that my post was a response to the posts that mention Talib, Munnerlyn, Roggers-Cromartie, Grimes...etc. hagan714 likes this.

02-15-2014, 04:25 PM	#45
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: What now at corner? Originally Posted by TheOak So CBs have more to grasp than Safety's? (Vaccaro) No, but it is the hardest position on the field outside of QB. hagan714 likes this.

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02-15-2014, 04:52 PM	#46
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: What now at corner? Originally Posted by TheOak So CBs have more to grasp than Safety's? (Vaccaro) No, but it is the hardest position on the field outside of QB.

02-15-2014, 05:00 PM	#47
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: What now at corner? Originally Posted by Utah_Saint You're right. I should have specified that my post was a response to the posts that mention Talib, Munnerlyn, Roggers-Cromartie, Grimes...etc. Agreed, I don't think we can afford to go after a top tier FA CB either. But I can certainly see us going after a mid-tier experienced CB for sure. hagan714 likes this.

02-15-2014, 06:12 PM	#48
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What now at corner? We will draft a DT or DE in the first round. We will pick up a CB and OT in free agency. Both could be had at a great price for our cap. If we can push salary off to next year we can sign outstanding players at both positions. hagan714 likes this.

02-15-2014, 07:48 PM	#49
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: What now at corner? What now at corner? Me baby. Catch me at the 2 day open tryouts. Its time. hagan714 likes this.

02-16-2014, 07:08 AM	#50
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: What now at corner? Patrick Robinson contrat 2014 cap hit 2,804,333 dead money 1,446,833 cheap risky starter or salary cap causality? injury history makes it a tough call. the smart money would have the saints drafting one of the developmental CB in the second round on that have a high ceiling. maybe two. CB/FS types Keith McGill CB/S Utah Stanley Jean-Baptiste Nebraska Aaron Colvin, CB, Oklahoma Pierre Desir, Lindenwood Walt Aikens Liberty Dontae Johnson; CB/S, NC State Jordan Love, CB, Towson Brandon Dixon NW Missouri St CB/FS to name a few. its a good year for these types. CB in round 1 i just do not have faith in ant of them not call them a reach. we need one to fall into our laps but that aint happening crossing their fingers and praying Pat can stay on the field for once is a huge gamble. interesting to watch and see what the saints do
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