TRADE OUT OF ROUND 1

Rugby Saint II · 02-25-2014, 03:33 PM

56% success rate or hits in the first round. That drops to 50% in the second round. That's only a 6% differential. (these numbers represent hits vs. busts not first year starters)

Do you move back and gamble that the deep draft favor your draft board? Will the players that you want fall to you?

It's hard to figure the Saints draft strategy. We have had success with small school prospects who had round one potential in the later middle to late rounds. Or we take a chance on somebody with issues off the field and pick up round one talent later in the draft.

I will say that our draft classes are substantially better when we draft early in the rounds.

SmashMouth · 03-01-2014, 07:52 AM

First rounders are a crap shoot also. How much did we pay for Marc Ingram again? How's that crapshoot working for us?

mighty12 · 03-01-2014, 10:48 AM

Can we all agree that last years draft may have been our best draft since 2006. 5 picks 4 "starters".....I use quotes for starters because Kenny Stills is a deep threat guy but I consider him a future #1 or #2 guy on this team.

Euphoria · 03-01-2014, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by mighty12

Can we all agree that last years draft may have been our best draft since 2006. 5 picks 4 "starters".....I use quotes for starters because Kenny Stills is a deep threat guy but I consider him a future #1 or #2 guy on this team.

Just because you're a starter doesn't mean you're good. I also don't see Stills and a 1 or 2. You have to realize he is a role player. That is our O by design.

mighty12 · 03-02-2014, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Just because you're a starter doesn't mean you're good. I also don't see Stills and a 1 or 2. You have to realize he is a role player. That is our O by design.

So, before I go any further, is it safe to say that you believe either all or at the very least one of the following, Kenny V., Terron Armstead, Jon Jenkins and Kenny Stills, to be subpar? I would agree that being a starter doesn't make you automatically make you a 'good' player but we are talking about major contributors with bright futures in the NFL.

Or are you being contrarian for contrary sake?

Danno · 03-02-2014, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by mighty12

So, before I go any further, is it safe to say that you believe either all or at the very least one of the following, Kenny V., Terron Armstead, Jon Jenkins and Kenny Stills, to be subpar? I would agree that being a starter doesn't make you automatically make you a 'good' player but we are talking about major contributors with bright futures in the NFL.

Or are you being contrarian for contrary sake?

True, every team has about 15 "starters" on each side of the ball depending on which set they're in. 2-TE, 3-WR, 4-WR, 3-RB, 1-RB, 3-4 alignments, 4-3 alignments, nickel, dime, 3-safety, Nascar etc...

Its kinda hard to limit "starter" to only 11 guys on each side of the ball.

hagan714 · 03-01-2014, 05:01 PM

as long as the saints stay in the top 5 of round 2 will i agree with it.

02-25-2014, 03:33 PM	#1
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03-01-2014, 10:48 AM	#3
mighty12 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 980 Blog Entries: 1	Re: TRADE OUT OF ROUND 1 Can we all agree that last years draft may have been our best draft since 2006. 5 picks 4 "starters".....I use quotes for starters because Kenny Stills is a deep threat guy but I consider him a future #1 or #2 guy on this team.

03-01-2014, 02:14 PM	#4
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: TRADE OUT OF ROUND 1 Originally Posted by mighty12 Can we all agree that last years draft may have been our best draft since 2006. 5 picks 4 "starters".....I use quotes for starters because Kenny Stills is a deep threat guy but I consider him a future #1 or #2 guy on this team. Just because you're a starter doesn't mean you're good. I also don't see Stills and a 1 or 2. You have to realize he is a role player. That is our O by design.

03-02-2014, 09:17 AM	#5
mighty12 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 980 Blog Entries: 1	Re: TRADE OUT OF ROUND 1 Originally Posted by Euphoria Just because you're a starter doesn't mean you're good. I also don't see Stills and a 1 or 2. You have to realize he is a role player. That is our O by design. So, before I go any further, is it safe to say that you believe either all or at the very least one of the following, Kenny V., Terron Armstead, Jon Jenkins and Kenny Stills, to be subpar? I would agree that being a starter doesn't make you automatically make you a 'good' player but we are talking about major contributors with bright futures in the NFL. Or are you being contrarian for contrary sake?

03-02-2014, 09:25 AM	#6
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,751	Re: TRADE OUT OF ROUND 1 Originally Posted by mighty12 So, before I go any further, is it safe to say that you believe either all or at the very least one of the following, Kenny V., Terron Armstead, Jon Jenkins and Kenny Stills, to be subpar? I would agree that being a starter doesn't make you automatically make you a 'good' player but we are talking about major contributors with bright futures in the NFL. Or are you being contrarian for contrary sake? True, every team has about 15 "starters" on each side of the ball depending on which set they're in. 2-TE, 3-WR, 4-WR, 3-RB, 1-RB, 3-4 alignments, 4-3 alignments, nickel, dime, 3-safety, Nascar etc... Its kinda hard to limit "starter" to only 11 guys on each side of the ball.

03-01-2014, 07:52 AM	#2
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,553 Blog Entries: 29	Re: TRADE OUT OF ROUND 1 First rounders are a crap shoot also. How much did we pay for Marc Ingram again? How's that crapshoot working for us?

03-01-2014, 05:01 PM	#7
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: TRADE OUT OF ROUND 1 as long as the saints stay in the top 5 of round 2 will i agree with it.

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