Saints could lose Jimmy Graham with non-exclusive tag

03-03-2014, 06:32 PM

I'd prefer the saints trade their first round pick and Graham for Houston's two first rounders next two years and a additional pick. Given the stakes for this draft it is highly worth it.

Utah_Saint · 03-03-2014, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by Saintaintso

getting coverage from corners occasionally and every single snap are two different things ... Don't twist what I said , if he wants elite WR money he better show up like one

I'm not trying to twist what you said. Most corners in the league are too small to cover him. Have you seen Brent Grimes try to cover Graham? It's almost funny to watch.

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If the other team thinks they can cover him with a corner, they'd put a corner on him. He's not covered by corners every play because most can't cover him.

8th in receiving yards and 1st in TDs since his rookie season.

How much more does he need to do to "show up"?

ScottF · 03-03-2014, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Brady 15m
Brees 18m

3m delta

exactly

Beastmode · 03-03-2014, 08:30 PM

I'm not even on the fence. We have to strengthen the OL. It is the apex of our problems. When we had a great OL we won the SB.

Danno · 03-03-2014, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

I'm not even on the fence. We have to strengthen the OL. It is the apex of our problems. When we had a great OL we won the SB.

Agree 100%, although signing Graham is no excuse for not improving our O-line. They can both be done.

Not a single player on the 2009 O-line cost us a fortune to acquire. They were all mid-rounders and mid-tier free agents. Stinchomb was probably the costliest as a 2nd rounder.

fischware · 03-04-2014, 02:55 PM

Pay the man! Two years ago in the SF play off game, he caught what should have iced the game away. He's a big time receiver and should get paid. Not the top pay but close to it.

The Dude · 03-04-2014, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by fischware

Pay the man! Two years ago in the SF play off game, he caught what should have iced the game away. He's a big time receiver and should get paid. Not the top pay but close to it.

There are too many receivers in this years draft to sign Jimmy to a huge contract. Give him Gonzo money and if he's not happy work out a deal to sign and trade him. No team is going to be dumb enough to give up two firsts. Just because someone caught a ball two years ago that COULD have iced the SF game. We would have still had to go on to beat the Giants anyway. We can get a receiver in this years draft that is just as useful with minimal investment.

Papa Voodoo · 03-04-2014, 06:55 PM

Mickey is working his magic.

Danno · 03-05-2014, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

There are too many receivers in this years draft to sign Jimmy to a huge contract. Give him Gonzo money and if he's not happy work out a deal to sign and trade him. No team is going to be dumb enough to give up two firsts. Just because someone caught a ball two years ago that COULD have iced the SF game. We would have still had to go on to beat the Giants anyway. We can get a receiver in this years draft that is just as useful with minimal investment.

Do you know what the odds are of finding a rookie receiver in the draft that could duplicate what jimmy gives us now?
There may not be a single one.

And we would have destroyed the giants in the Superdome,

vpheughan · 03-05-2014, 11:42 AM

Just as well all the "coulda, woulda, shoulda's" didn't happen. The Saints beat SF, the Giants and win the Super Bowl. Bounty Gate would have been twice the circus it was and I don't doubt for a minute that Roger would have stripped us the Lombardi and put us on double secret probation!

03-03-2014, 06:32 PM	#61
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03-03-2014, 07:37 PM	#63
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Saints could lose Jimmy Graham with non-exclusive tag Originally Posted by TheOak Brady 15m Brees 18m 3m delta exactly

03-03-2014, 08:30 PM	#64
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Saints could lose Jimmy Graham with non-exclusive tag I'm not even on the fence. We have to strengthen the OL. It is the apex of our problems. When we had a great OL we won the SB. Danno and MarchingOn like this.
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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: Saints could lose Jimmy Graham with non-exclusive tag Originally Posted by Beastmode I'm not even on the fence. We have to strengthen the OL. It is the apex of our problems. When we had a great OL we won the SB. Agree 100%, although signing Graham is no excuse for not improving our O-line. They can both be done. Not a single player on the 2009 O-line cost us a fortune to acquire. They were all mid-rounders and mid-tier free agents. Stinchomb was probably the costliest as a 2nd rounder.

03-04-2014, 02:55 PM	#66
fischware Rookie Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 12	Re: Saints could lose Jimmy Graham with non-exclusive tag Pay the man! Two years ago in the SF play off game, he caught what should have iced the game away. He's a big time receiver and should get paid. Not the top pay but close to it.

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03-04-2014, 04:58 PM	#67
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Re: Saints could lose Jimmy Graham with non-exclusive tag Originally Posted by fischware Pay the man! Two years ago in the SF play off game, he caught what should have iced the game away. He's a big time receiver and should get paid. Not the top pay but close to it. There are too many receivers in this years draft to sign Jimmy to a huge contract. Give him Gonzo money and if he's not happy work out a deal to sign and trade him. No team is going to be dumb enough to give up two firsts. Just because someone caught a ball two years ago that COULD have iced the SF game. We would have still had to go on to beat the Giants anyway. We can get a receiver in this years draft that is just as useful with minimal investment.
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03-04-2014, 06:55 PM	#68
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: Saints could lose Jimmy Graham with non-exclusive tag Mickey is working his magic.

03-05-2014, 09:14 AM	#69
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: Saints could lose Jimmy Graham with non-exclusive tag Originally Posted by The Dude There are too many receivers in this years draft to sign Jimmy to a huge contract. Give him Gonzo money and if he's not happy work out a deal to sign and trade him. No team is going to be dumb enough to give up two firsts. Just because someone caught a ball two years ago that COULD have iced the SF game. We would have still had to go on to beat the Giants anyway. We can get a receiver in this years draft that is just as useful with minimal investment. Do you know what the odds are of finding a rookie receiver in the draft that could duplicate what jimmy gives us now? There may not be a single one. And we would have destroyed the giants in the Superdome, lee909 likes this.

03-05-2014, 11:42 AM	#70
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,524	Re: Saints could lose Jimmy Graham with non-exclusive tag Just as well all the "coulda, woulda, shoulda's" didn't happen. The Saints beat SF, the Giants and win the Super Bowl. Bounty Gate would have been twice the circus it was and I don't doubt for a minute that Roger would have stripped us the Lombardi and put us on double secret probation!
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