Rumor: We matched offer for Bush

AsylumGuido · 04-07-2014, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by TwistedTiger

Every time I think of jim rome I remember Jim Everett slinging his punk azz around on tv. Does anyone even listen to that punk any more?

No, I hate the bastard, but I love that.

saintsfan1976 · 04-07-2014, 11:05 PM

I knew it was something like that.

Crusader · 04-08-2014, 04:48 AM

Against better judgement I went to that site and tried to read and now I have got a headache again.

TheOak · 04-08-2014, 06:49 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

He was hoping they wouldn't match because he wanted the chance to start...

I seem to be in the minority. I'm not very find of a deal where Loomis pays more than he wanted to for a player that was vocal about not being re-signed.

Somehow Darren Sproles is not worth 3.7m/year but Rafael Bush is worth 2.25m/year.

voodooido · 04-08-2014, 07:34 AM

Wonder if they are trying to sucker them into giving up a pick....

TheOak · 04-08-2014, 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by voodooido

Wonder if they are trying to sucker them into giving up a pick....

Pick was off the table when Bush was tendered.

AsylumGuido · 04-08-2014, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

I seem to be in the minority. I'm not very find of a deal where Loomis pays more than he wanted to for a player that was vocal about not being re-signed.

Somehow Darren Sproles is not worth 3.7m/year but Rafael Bush is worth 2.25m/year.

I don't think that was more than Loomis was willing to pay for Bush at all. I believe he took a chance on Bush not getting an offer sheet to save a few bucks. If Loomis didn't want him he would not have tendered him in the first place.

As for Bush being vocal about not being re-signed, what exactly did he say that was nothing more than making the best out of the situation he was dealt (ie. receiving the offer)?

AsylumGuido · 04-08-2014, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I don't think that was more than Loomis was willing to pay for Bush at all. I believe he took a chance on Bush not getting an offer sheet to save a few bucks. If Loomis didn't want him he would not have tendered him in the first place.

As for Bush being vocal about not being re-signed, what exactly did he say that was nothing more than making the best out of the situation he was dealt (ie. receiving the offer)?

I am serious about this. I have not been able to find any quote from Bush on not wanting to remain with the Saints. A writer in one article implied that was how Bush felt, but that was most likely his opinion on how Bush would feel.

The only quotes on the subject that I read directly attributed to Bush indicated how excited he was to get to play alongside Vacarro and Byrd.

Jack Vegas · 04-08-2014, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

I seem to be in the minority. I'm not very find of a deal where Loomis pays more than he wanted to for a player that was vocal about not being re-signed.

Somehow Darren Sproles is not worth 3.7m/year but Rafael Bush is worth 2.25m/year.

Safety is becoming a very valuable position in today's NFL. | SportsonEarth.com : Dan Pompei Article

"There was a time when that money might have gone to running backs in free agency," said Saints coach Sean Payton, whose team gave Jairus Byrd more guaranteed money -- $26.3 million -- than any team ever has given a safety.

Some teams are getting greedy with safeties, stockpiling them like cases of water before a storm. Dominik points out some teams want three safeties who can play, as they are looking at athletic safeties as nickel defenders. The benefit is the safety typically is a better tackler than a cornerback would be, and he gives the defense more versatility in terms of matchups with tight ends. The Saints last year used a three safety package quite a bit in response to injury issues at other positions.

AsylumGuido · 04-08-2014, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I am serious about this. I have not been able to find any quote from Bush on not wanting to remain with the Saints. A writer in one article implied that was how Bush felt, but that was most likely his opinion on how Bush would feel.

The only quotes on the subject that I read directly attributed to Bush indicated how excited he was to get to play alongside Vacarro and Byrd.

Okay, this is the ONLY mention that I could find:

NFL source: Rafael Bush hoping for shot at starting role with Falcons

Bush signed the offer sheet. The Saints can keep him if they match the Falcons’ offer sheet by Tuesday. But Bush would prefer it if New Orleans let him move on, the source said.

It’s nothing personal against the Saints, who in March extended Bush a one-year, $1.4 million tender that ensured they would have the chance to match any offer sheet the safety signed, the source said.

According to the source, in Atlanta, Bush is being offered a chance to be a starting safety alongside William Moore, a friend. The Falcons’ release in February of safety Thomas DeCoud, a starter since 2009, created the opportunity.

“Atlanta is a better situation for Rafael Bush to have a starting role in the defense,” the source said. “It is a better situation for his career and for his family,” especially financially.

There is a very good chance the "source" was someone from the Falcons' front office.

As far as I can tell, Rafael Bush never said anything about not wanting the Saints to match the offer. Nothing at all.

04-07-2014, 08:47 PM	#61
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Rumor: We matched offer for Bush Originally Posted by TwistedTiger Every time I think of jim rome I remember Jim Everett slinging his punk azz around on tv. Does anyone even listen to that punk any more? No, I hate the bastard, but I love that. exile likes this.

04-07-2014, 11:05 PM	#62
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Rumor: We matched offer for Bush I knew it was something like that.

04-08-2014, 04:48 AM	#63
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: Rumor: We matched offer for Bush Against better judgement I went to that site and tried to read and now I have got a headache again. TheOak likes this.

04-08-2014, 06:49 AM	#64
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Rumor: We matched offer for Bush Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| He was hoping they wouldn't match because he wanted the chance to start... I seem to be in the minority. I'm not very find of a deal where Loomis pays more than he wanted to for a player that was vocal about not being re-signed. Somehow Darren Sproles is not worth 3.7m/year but Rafael Bush is worth 2.25m/year. SapperSaint likes this.

04-08-2014, 07:34 AM	#65
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04-08-2014, 07:36 AM	#66
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Rumor: We matched offer for Bush Originally Posted by voodooido Wonder if they are trying to sucker them into giving up a pick.... Pick was off the table when Bush was tendered.

04-08-2014, 11:49 AM	#67
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Rumor: We matched offer for Bush Originally Posted by TheOak I seem to be in the minority. I'm not very find of a deal where Loomis pays more than he wanted to for a player that was vocal about not being re-signed. Somehow Darren Sproles is not worth 3.7m/year but Rafael Bush is worth 2.25m/year. I don't think that was more than Loomis was willing to pay for Bush at all. I believe he took a chance on Bush not getting an offer sheet to save a few bucks. If Loomis didn't want him he would not have tendered him in the first place. As for Bush being vocal about not being re-signed, what exactly did he say that was nothing more than making the best out of the situation he was dealt (ie. receiving the offer)?

04-08-2014, 12:00 PM	#68
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Rumor: We matched offer for Bush Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I don't think that was more than Loomis was willing to pay for Bush at all. I believe he took a chance on Bush not getting an offer sheet to save a few bucks. If Loomis didn't want him he would not have tendered him in the first place. As for Bush being vocal about not being re-signed, what exactly did he say that was nothing more than making the best out of the situation he was dealt (ie. receiving the offer)? I am serious about this. I have not been able to find any quote from Bush on not wanting to remain with the Saints. A writer in one article implied that was how Bush felt, but that was most likely his opinion on how Bush would feel. The only quotes on the subject that I read directly attributed to Bush indicated how excited he was to get to play alongside Vacarro and Byrd.

04-08-2014, 12:17 PM	#69
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Rumor: We matched offer for Bush Originally Posted by TheOak I seem to be in the minority. I'm not very find of a deal where Loomis pays more than he wanted to for a player that was vocal about not being re-signed. Somehow Darren Sproles is not worth 3.7m/year but Rafael Bush is worth 2.25m/year. Safety is becoming a very valuable position in today's NFL. \| SportsonEarth.com : Dan Pompei Article "There was a time when that money might have gone to running backs in free agency," said Saints coach Sean Payton, whose team gave Jairus Byrd more guaranteed money -- $26.3 million -- than any team ever has given a safety. Some teams are getting greedy with safeties, stockpiling them like cases of water before a storm. Dominik points out some teams want three safeties who can play, as they are looking at athletic safeties as nickel defenders. The benefit is the safety typically is a better tackler than a cornerback would be, and he gives the defense more versatility in terms of matchups with tight ends. The Saints last year used a three safety package quite a bit in response to injury issues at other positions.
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04-08-2014, 12:18 PM	#70
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Rumor: We matched offer for Bush Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I am serious about this. I have not been able to find any quote from Bush on not wanting to remain with the Saints. A writer in one article implied that was how Bush felt, but that was most likely his opinion on how Bush would feel. The only quotes on the subject that I read directly attributed to Bush indicated how excited he was to get to play alongside Vacarro and Byrd. Okay, this is the ONLY mention that I could find: NFL source: Rafael Bush hoping for shot at starting role with Falcons Bush signed the offer sheet. The Saints can keep him if they match the Falcons’ offer sheet by Tuesday. But Bush would prefer it if New Orleans let him move on, the source said. It’s nothing personal against the Saints, who in March extended Bush a one-year, $1.4 million tender that ensured they would have the chance to match any offer sheet the safety signed, the source said. According to the source, in Atlanta, Bush is being offered a chance to be a starting safety alongside William Moore, a friend. The Falcons’ release in February of safety Thomas DeCoud, a starter since 2009, created the opportunity. “Atlanta is a better situation for Rafael Bush to have a starting role in the defense,” the source said. “It is a better situation for his career and for his family,” especially financially. There is a very good chance the "source" was someone from the Falcons' front office. As far as I can tell, Rafael Bush never said anything about not wanting the Saints to match the offer. Nothing at all.

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