Rumor: We matched offer for Bush

Jack Vegas · 04-08-2014, 11:58 AM

Guido is correct in pointing out the unreliability of an anonymous source. At some point it was said by someone that Bush preferred the Saints not to match; we never heard that from Bush, his agent, or anybody else. All Rotoworld and the like did was latch onto that one comment as if it were gospel but it could have been nothing more than idle speculation from the beginning; or as Guido said someone from the Falcons front office trying to plant some misinformation. That wouldn't surprise me one bit.

|Mitch| · 04-08-2014, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

Guido is correct in pointing out the unreliability of an anonymous source. At some point it was said by someone that Bush preferred the Saints not to match; we never heard that from Bush, his agent, or anybody else. All Rotoworld and the like did was latch onto that one comment as if it were gospel but it could have been nothing more than idle speculation from the beginning; or as Guido said someone from the Falcons front office trying to plant some misinformation. That wouldn't surprise me one bit.

Actually; Bush tweeted it... then deleted the tweets after the Saints matched

AsylumGuido · 04-08-2014, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Actually; Bush tweeted it... then deleted the tweets after the Saints matched

I follow Bush on twitter, as I do most all of the Saints players, and check the posts constantly. I never saw anything like that from him. If it was out there someone would have surely copied it and posted it somewhere.

Jack Vegas · 04-08-2014, 12:09 PM

I've seen his Twitter, never said anything of the sort. The whole thing came from Vargas' "source" that was never named and a million different outlets got a hold of it. Because of the prevalence of all these web sites this stuff always gets distributed out all over the place until people accept it as fact; but one shaky source doesn't mean it's true. I've been a journalist for 15 years, I know how this stuff works.

Now, I would not necessarily be surprised if Bush wanted it that way, nor would I blame him for feeling that way. I'm just saying, that little bit of news got blown out of proportion pretty quickly. Almost like somebody really really really wanted it out there.

Jack Vegas · 04-08-2014, 12:18 PM

To clear it up this was the very first inkling of anything regarding Bush not wanting the Saints to match:

[RVargasAdvocate]
Ramon Antonio Vargas @RVargasAdvocate
3 days ago
Source tells me #saints S Rafael Bush would prefer it if 2-year, $4.5 million offer sheet from Falcons wasn''t matched NFL source: Rafael Bush hoping for shot at starting role with Falcons | Sports | The New Orleans Advocate

Literally EVERY SINGLE reference after that was a rewording or retweet of that original post. Nowhere did Rafael Bush or his agent actually say it. Knowing Vargas' work in the past it seems like a lot of idle speculation; either that or Vargas got the wool pulled over his eyes by somebody with an agenda.

Jack Vegas · 04-08-2014, 12:22 PM

Here is the original Vargas article, which if you ask me is a bunch of garbage and an example of terrible journalism. You have to be able to sort through the BS.

NFL source: Rafael Bush hoping for shot at starting role with Falcons | Sports | The New Orleans Advocate

According to the source, in Atlanta, Bush is being offered a chance to be a starting safety alongside William Moore, a friend. The Falcons’ release in February of safety Thomas DeCoud, a starter since 2009, created the opportunity.

“Atlanta is a better situation for Rafael Bush to have a starting role in the defense,” the source said. “It is a better situation for his career and for his family,” especially financially.

I'm just saying. If I turned in a story this shaky, I would get sent home for the day.

TheOak · 04-08-2014, 12:42 PM

I would have actually said something to the contrary if a story leaked that I wish my previous employer wouldn't retain me and it wasn't accurate. Bush is fairly vocal on his twitter and he know that statement was out there.

I do understand though... Obviously if a person doesn't say something on Twitter or video feed it couldn't have happened. #internetzrulez

I do get your point though Jack, Vargas's article is more of a someone else's opinion article than a story.

AsylumGuido · 04-08-2014, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

I would have actually said something to the contrary if a story leaked that I wish my previous employer wouldn't retain me and it wasn't accurate. Bush is fairly vocal on his twitter and he know that statement was out there.

I do understand though... Obviously if a person doesn't say something on Twitter or video feed it couldn't have happened. #internetzrulez

I do get your point though Jack, Vargas's article is more of a someone else's opinion article than a story.

That's what I was trying to point out. That article is the ONLY place that mentions this from a source. Every other reference refers back to this article in one way or another.

And by the way, here are actual Bush tweets on the subject:

04-08-2014, 11:58 AM	#1
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Rumor: We matched offer for Bush Guido is correct in pointing out the unreliability of an anonymous source. At some point it was said by someone that Bush preferred the Saints not to match; we never heard that from Bush, his agent, or anybody else. All Rotoworld and the like did was latch onto that one comment as if it were gospel but it could have been nothing more than idle speculation from the beginning; or as Guido said someone from the Falcons front office trying to plant some misinformation. That wouldn't surprise me one bit.
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04-08-2014, 12:00 PM	#2
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Rumor: We matched offer for Bush Originally Posted by Jack Vegas Guido is correct in pointing out the unreliability of an anonymous source. At some point it was said by someone that Bush preferred the Saints not to match; we never heard that from Bush, his agent, or anybody else. All Rotoworld and the like did was latch onto that one comment as if it were gospel but it could have been nothing more than idle speculation from the beginning; or as Guido said someone from the Falcons front office trying to plant some misinformation. That wouldn't surprise me one bit. Actually; Bush tweeted it... then deleted the tweets after the Saints matched

04-08-2014, 12:17 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Rumor: We matched offer for Bush Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Actually; Bush tweeted it... then deleted the tweets after the Saints matched I follow Bush on twitter, as I do most all of the Saints players, and check the posts constantly. I never saw anything like that from him. If it was out there someone would have surely copied it and posted it somewhere.

04-08-2014, 12:09 PM	#4
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Rumor: We matched offer for Bush I've seen his Twitter, never said anything of the sort. The whole thing came from Vargas' "source" that was never named and a million different outlets got a hold of it. Because of the prevalence of all these web sites this stuff always gets distributed out all over the place until people accept it as fact; but one shaky source doesn't mean it's true. I've been a journalist for 15 years, I know how this stuff works. Now, I would not necessarily be surprised if Bush wanted it that way, nor would I blame him for feeling that way. I'm just saying, that little bit of news got blown out of proportion pretty quickly. Almost like somebody really really really wanted it out there.
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04-08-2014, 12:18 PM	#5
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Rumor: We matched offer for Bush To clear it up this was the very first inkling of anything regarding Bush not wanting the Saints to match: [RVargasAdvocate] Ramon Antonio Vargas @RVargasAdvocate 3 days ago Source tells me #saints S Rafael Bush would prefer it if 2-year, $4.5 million offer sheet from Falcons wasn''t matched NFL source: Rafael Bush hoping for shot at starting role with Falcons \| Sports \| The New Orleans Advocate Literally EVERY SINGLE reference after that was a rewording or retweet of that original post. Nowhere did Rafael Bush or his agent actually say it. Knowing Vargas' work in the past it seems like a lot of idle speculation; either that or Vargas got the wool pulled over his eyes by somebody with an agenda.
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04-08-2014, 12:22 PM	#6
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Rumor: We matched offer for Bush Here is the original Vargas article, which if you ask me is a bunch of garbage and an example of terrible journalism. You have to be able to sort through the BS. NFL source: Rafael Bush hoping for shot at starting role with Falcons \| Sports \| The New Orleans Advocate According to the source, in Atlanta, Bush is being offered a chance to be a starting safety alongside William Moore, a friend. The Falcons’ release in February of safety Thomas DeCoud, a starter since 2009, created the opportunity. “Atlanta is a better situation for Rafael Bush to have a starting role in the defense,” the source said. “It is a better situation for his career and for his family,” especially financially. I'm just saying. If I turned in a story this shaky, I would get sent home for the day.
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04-08-2014, 12:42 PM	#7
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Rumor: We matched offer for Bush I would have actually said something to the contrary if a story leaked that I wish my previous employer wouldn't retain me and it wasn't accurate. Bush is fairly vocal on his twitter and he know that statement was out there. I do understand though... Obviously if a person doesn't say something on Twitter or video feed it couldn't have happened. #internetzrulez I do get your point though Jack, Vargas's article is more of a someone else's opinion article than a story.

04-08-2014, 01:29 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Rumor: We matched offer for Bush Originally Posted by TheOak I would have actually said something to the contrary if a story leaked that I wish my previous employer wouldn't retain me and it wasn't accurate. Bush is fairly vocal on his twitter and he know that statement was out there. I do understand though... Obviously if a person doesn't say something on Twitter or video feed it couldn't have happened. #internetzrulez I do get your point though Jack, Vargas's article is more of a someone else's opinion article than a story. That's what I was trying to point out. That article is the ONLY place that mentions this from a source. Every other reference refers back to this article in one way or another. And by the way, here are actual Bush tweets on the subject:

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