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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by rezburna Rookie starters at center, CB, wr, and OLB isn't going to win us a Super Bowl. Nor is it guaranteed the people we pick at those spots will even work out to be long term solutions. ...
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05-10-2014, 10:23 AM | #31 |
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Re: I don't like the trade
Originally Posted by rezburna
Rez, you're right, in so much that you don't fix a team in one draft...
But consider... One, this is the deepest draft, possibly in twenty-five years... Two, the more picks you have, the better you're chances of hitting good players... Three, if the players that could have been selected with those extra picks would be an improvement over existing talented - why would the fact that they are rookies handicap them from winning a championship?!? |
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05-10-2014, 10:30 AM | #32 |
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Re: I don't like the trade
Originally Posted by jeanpierre
usual the case isn't it. for once in the mickey and SP erea i would love to see the saints walk away from a draft with picks in our back pocket for the following year. this was the draft to do in with out a doubt. but oh well i am use to it. |
05-10-2014, 10:32 AM | #33 |
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Re: I don't like the trade
Originally Posted by hagan714
Normally the teams that walk away with picks in their pocket for following years are typically - jags, raiders type teams, ones that are rebuilding over years
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05-10-2014, 10:54 AM | #34 |
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Re: I don't like the trade
The Patriots are the best by far at stock piling picks. They are always in win now mode. San Francisco has done a good of the same lately. As bad as the Saints have been in the early rounds and as good as they have been in the mid to late rounds following the Patriots formula seems to make sense. I'm not big on trading up or back unless the players available don't have value that matches the slot you're picking in.
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05-10-2014, 11:00 AM | #35 |
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Re: I don't like the trade
Here is why it is a good trade......most other positions fill 1 role, especially center. Cooks fills a couple positions of need. WR opposite Colston, return man, Scat back. Those positions were lost when Moore and Sproles were let go and now we have 1 player that can fill it instead of 2 or 3. As someone stated a roster is 53 players so the more versatile players are a better fit especially with this team. Also, he would not have been there at 27 because Philadelphia wanted him to replace Desean jackson.
With all that said, if the Saints would have done what you wanted them to do, who are your picks at those selections? I am not trying to be contrarian. I want to know who you would have wanted with those 3 extra picks? |
05-10-2014, 11:06 AM | #36 |
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Re: I don't like the trade
Originally Posted by mighty12
Agreed, the draft is loaded with JAGS, a Bill Parcells term for "just a guy". A lot of picks helps teams that are building. We aren't a team that's building, we're a team re-loading.
We identified a guy that we think is a real difference maker, not "just a guy" to fill a hole somewhere. If we had 12 picks I'd estimate 6 wouldn't even make this team. I understand the quantity over quality strategy too, and its a solid strategy too. I love the pick, and losing a 3rd rounder isn't much of a price to pay for a guy we think will be a star. |
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Re: I don't like the trade
Originally Posted by jeanpierre
Hind sight brother, it's crystal clear 5 years later. You've not once been high on a player pre-draft and 4 years later he was no longer in the NFL? Sean and Loomis have brought us the best 8 years of Saints football in history. There is no consistent perfection on the NFL, if there is I challenge you to point it out. Shockey played his part in a Super Bowl win. |
05-10-2014, 11:16 AM | #38 |
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Re: I don't like the trade
Call me crazy, but for some unknown reason I have this sneaking suspicion that Mickey Loomis and Sean Payton know a tad bit more about NFL player personnel decisions than our new friend Gumbeauxx and our old friend Jean-Pierre combined.
If Payton and Loomis feel that an undrafted free agent lineman can assume the duties sufficiently at center then I trust them. I suspect that they may have spent a few more minutes observing his progress up close and personal than our two cronies. Or perhaps, Loomis and Payton may have other ideas about handling the center position in mind which they have yet to approach our local forum experts for their valuable input. I understand that the team of Loomis and Payton are new to this NFL thingy and have only managed one measly Super Bowl win, but I feel we should give them a chance to prove themselves worthy. Not everyone can be as well-schooled in the matter of NFL player personnel decisions as some of our learned colleagues around here. |
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05-10-2014, 11:29 AM | #39 |
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Re: I don't like the trade
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
F**king spot on! Good post!
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05-10-2014, 11:37 AM | #40 |
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