I don't like the trade

jeanpierre · 05-10-2014, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

The absence of a 2014 3rd round pick is gonna cost us a Superbowl?

You are assuming way way too much on the trade-down scenarios.

Read the entire post, he said we were in position to trade down the position...

hagan714 · 05-10-2014, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Read the entire post, he said we were in position to trade down the position...

usual the case isn't it. for once in the mickey and SP erea i would love to see the saints walk away from a draft with picks in our back pocket for the following year. this was the draft to do in with out a doubt. but oh well i am use to it.

dizzle88 · 05-10-2014, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

usual the case isn't it. for once in the mickey and SP erea i would love to see the saints walk away from a draft with picks in our back pocket for the following year. this was the draft to do in with out a doubt. but oh well i am use to it.

Normally the teams that walk away with picks in their pocket for following years are typically - jags, raiders type teams, ones that are rebuilding over years

we are in a win now mentality

TwistedTiger · 05-10-2014, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Normally the teams that walk away with picks in their pocket for following years are typically - jags, raiders type teams, ones that are rebuilding over years

we are in a win now mentality

The Patriots are the best by far at stock piling picks. They are always in win now mode. San Francisco has done a good of the same lately. As bad as the Saints have been in the early rounds and as good as they have been in the mid to late rounds following the Patriots formula seems to make sense. I'm not big on trading up or back unless the players available don't have value that matches the slot you're picking in.

jeanpierre · 05-10-2014, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Normally the teams that walk away with picks in their pocket for following years are typically - jags, raiders type teams, ones that are rebuilding over years

Diz, how about the Patriots, Ravens and 49ers...

dizzle88 · 05-10-2014, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Diz, how about the Patriots, Ravens and 49ers...

Thats true, those teams do have quite a lot of picks every year but they arguably have more holes to address on their team than we do

We hardly ever have more than 7 picks in a draft and yet we always make it work, plus like danno said, if we started getting like 13 picks a draft - its likely 5 of those guys don't make the team because we are so good at finding and developing UDFA's

AsylumGuido · 05-10-2014, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Diz, how about the Patriots, Ravens and 49ers...

And since 2006, coincidentally the year Loomis and Payton teamed up, the Saints have won as many Super Bowls as those three franchises combined! That's right, how 'bout them?

mighty12 · 05-10-2014, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

And since 2006, coincidentally the year Loomis and Payton teamed up, the Saints have won as many Super Bowls as those three franchises combined! That's right, how 'bout them?

+1

jeanpierre · 05-10-2014, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

And since 2006, coincidentally the year Loomis and Payton teamed up, the Saints have won as many Super Bowls as those three franchises combined! That's right, how 'bout them?

Superbowls, yes...

Playoff wins? Division Titles?

rezburna · 05-10-2014, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Superbowls, yes...

Playoff wins? Division Titles?

All that only matters if you get to pick 32nd. Every season you don't win it all is a waste of time. Brees gets a little older, and the window closes a little more until we're comfortable with who's behind him.

05-10-2014, 09:09 AM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: I don't like the trade Originally Posted by Danno The absence of a 2014 3rd round pick is gonna cost us a Superbowl? You are assuming way way too much on the trade-down scenarios. Read the entire post, he said we were in position to trade down the position... hagan714 likes this.

05-10-2014, 09:30 AM	#2
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: I don't like the trade Originally Posted by jeanpierre Read the entire post, he said we were in position to trade down the position... usual the case isn't it. for once in the mickey and SP erea i would love to see the saints walk away from a draft with picks in our back pocket for the following year. this was the draft to do in with out a doubt. but oh well i am use to it.

05-10-2014, 09:32 AM	#3
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,532	Re: I don't like the trade Originally Posted by hagan714 usual the case isn't it. for once in the mickey and SP erea i would love to see the saints walk away from a draft with picks in our back pocket for the following year. this was the draft to do in with out a doubt. but oh well i am use to it. Normally the teams that walk away with picks in their pocket for following years are typically - jags, raiders type teams, ones that are rebuilding over years we are in a win now mentality

05-10-2014, 09:54 AM	#4
TwistedTiger 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 180	Re: I don't like the trade Originally Posted by dizzle88 Normally the teams that walk away with picks in their pocket for following years are typically - jags, raiders type teams, ones that are rebuilding over years we are in a win now mentality The Patriots are the best by far at stock piling picks. They are always in win now mode. San Francisco has done a good of the same lately. As bad as the Saints have been in the early rounds and as good as they have been in the mid to late rounds following the Patriots formula seems to make sense. I'm not big on trading up or back unless the players available don't have value that matches the slot you're picking in.
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05-10-2014, 10:37 AM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: I don't like the trade Originally Posted by dizzle88 Normally the teams that walk away with picks in their pocket for following years are typically - jags, raiders type teams, ones that are rebuilding over years Diz, how about the Patriots, Ravens and 49ers...

05-10-2014, 10:43 AM	#6
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,532	Re: I don't like the trade Originally Posted by jeanpierre Diz, how about the Patriots, Ravens and 49ers... Thats true, those teams do have quite a lot of picks every year but they arguably have more holes to address on their team than we do We hardly ever have more than 7 picks in a draft and yet we always make it work, plus like danno said, if we started getting like 13 picks a draft - its likely 5 of those guys don't make the team because we are so good at finding and developing UDFA's

05-10-2014, 10:57 AM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: I don't like the trade Originally Posted by jeanpierre Diz, how about the Patriots, Ravens and 49ers... And since 2006, coincidentally the year Loomis and Payton teamed up, the Saints have won as many Super Bowls as those three franchises combined! That's right, how 'bout them?

05-10-2014, 11:02 AM	#8
mighty12 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 980 Blog Entries: 1	Re: I don't like the trade Originally Posted by AsylumGuido And since 2006, coincidentally the year Loomis and Payton teamed up, the Saints have won as many Super Bowls as those three franchises combined! That's right, how 'bout them? +1

05-10-2014, 11:26 AM	#9
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: I don't like the trade Originally Posted by AsylumGuido And since 2006, coincidentally the year Loomis and Payton teamed up, the Saints have won as many Super Bowls as those three franchises combined! That's right, how 'bout them? Superbowls, yes... Playoff wins? Division Titles?

05-10-2014, 11:28 AM	#10
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,086	Re: I don't like the trade Originally Posted by jeanpierre Superbowls, yes... Playoff wins? Division Titles? All that only matters if you get to pick 32nd. Every season you don't win it all is a waste of time. Brees gets a little older, and the window closes a little more until we're comfortable with who's behind him.

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