I don't like the trade

dizzle88 · 05-10-2014, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Diz, how about the Patriots, Ravens and 49ers...

Thats true, those teams do have quite a lot of picks every year but they arguably have more holes to address on their team than we do

We hardly ever have more than 7 picks in a draft and yet we always make it work, plus like danno said, if we started getting like 13 picks a draft - its likely 5 of those guys don't make the team because we are so good at finding and developing UDFA's

AsylumGuido · 05-10-2014, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Diz, how about the Patriots, Ravens and 49ers...

And since 2006, coincidentally the year Loomis and Payton teamed up, the Saints have won as many Super Bowls as those three franchises combined! That's right, how 'bout them?

mighty12 · 05-10-2014, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

And since 2006, coincidentally the year Loomis and Payton teamed up, the Saints have won as many Super Bowls as those three franchises combined! That's right, how 'bout them?

+1

rezburna · 05-10-2014, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by foreverfan

Ultimate Brandin Cooks Highlights | HD - YouTube

I can't look at this and say there were plenty of guys we could have got later that play like this.

rezburna · 05-10-2014, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Rez, you're right, in so much that you don't fix a team in one draft...

But consider...

One, this is the deepest draft, possibly in twenty-five years...

Two, the more picks you have, the better you're chances of hitting good players...

Three, if the players that could have been selected with those extra picks would be an improvement over existing talented - why would the fact that they are rookies handicap them from winning a championship?!?

I agree with the premise, it's just that we obviously aren't building for the future. We're building for now. Looking for immediate impact.

lee909 · 05-10-2014, 12:25 PM

For me the talent drop from the best prospect in rounds 1/2 to the mid range back end guys is far more than the round 5-7 and UDFA.

jeanpierre · 05-10-2014, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

And since 2006, coincidentally the year Loomis and Payton teamed up, the Saints have won as many Super Bowls as those three franchises combined! That's right, how 'bout them?

Superbowls, yes...

Playoff wins? Division Titles?

jeanpierre · 05-10-2014, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I agree with the premise, it's just that we obviously aren't building for the future. We're building for now. Looking for immediate impact.

You're right about the future is now; I just prefer reloading to rebuilding...

And we're set to a course to rebuild...

rezburna · 05-10-2014, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Superbowls, yes...

Playoff wins? Division Titles?

All that only matters if you get to pick 32nd. Every season you don't win it all is a waste of time. Brees gets a little older, and the window closes a little more until we're comfortable with who's behind him.

jeanpierre · 05-10-2014, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I can't look at this and say there were plenty of guys we could have got later that play like this.

True, but Bush had the same highlight reel in college...

My concerns are his size; he geauxs across the middle like Lance did on some routes - he may not walk off the field...

05-10-2014, 11:43 AM	#41
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: I don't like the trade Originally Posted by jeanpierre Diz, how about the Patriots, Ravens and 49ers... Thats true, those teams do have quite a lot of picks every year but they arguably have more holes to address on their team than we do We hardly ever have more than 7 picks in a draft and yet we always make it work, plus like danno said, if we started getting like 13 picks a draft - its likely 5 of those guys don't make the team because we are so good at finding and developing UDFA's

05-10-2014, 11:57 AM	#42
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,396	Re: I don't like the trade Originally Posted by jeanpierre Diz, how about the Patriots, Ravens and 49ers... And since 2006, coincidentally the year Loomis and Payton teamed up, the Saints have won as many Super Bowls as those three franchises combined! That's right, how 'bout them?

05-10-2014, 12:02 PM	#43
mighty12 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 980 Blog Entries: 1	Re: I don't like the trade Originally Posted by AsylumGuido And since 2006, coincidentally the year Loomis and Payton teamed up, the Saints have won as many Super Bowls as those three franchises combined! That's right, how 'bout them? +1

05-10-2014, 12:18 PM	#44
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,982	Re: I don't like the trade Originally Posted by foreverfan Ultimate Brandin Cooks Highlights \| HD - YouTube I can't look at this and say there were plenty of guys we could have got later that play like this. dizzle88 and brees84 like this.

05-10-2014, 12:21 PM	#45
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,982	Re: I don't like the trade Originally Posted by jeanpierre Rez, you're right, in so much that you don't fix a team in one draft... But consider... One, this is the deepest draft, possibly in twenty-five years... Two, the more picks you have, the better you're chances of hitting good players... Three, if the players that could have been selected with those extra picks would be an improvement over existing talented - why would the fact that they are rookies handicap them from winning a championship?!? I agree with the premise, it's just that we obviously aren't building for the future. We're building for now. Looking for immediate impact.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: I don't like the trade Originally Posted by AsylumGuido And since 2006, coincidentally the year Loomis and Payton teamed up, the Saints have won as many Super Bowls as those three franchises combined! That's right, how 'bout them? Superbowls, yes... Playoff wins? Division Titles?

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: I don't like the trade Originally Posted by rezburna I agree with the premise, it's just that we obviously aren't building for the future. We're building for now. Looking for immediate impact. You're right about the future is now; I just prefer reloading to rebuilding... And we're set to a course to rebuild...

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,982	Re: I don't like the trade Originally Posted by jeanpierre Superbowls, yes... Playoff wins? Division Titles? All that only matters if you get to pick 32nd. Every season you don't win it all is a waste of time. Brees gets a little older, and the window closes a little more until we're comfortable with who's behind him.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: I don't like the trade Originally Posted by rezburna I can't look at this and say there were plenty of guys we could have got later that play like this. True, but Bush had the same highlight reel in college... My concerns are his size; he geauxs across the middle like Lance did on some routes - he may not walk off the field...

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