rezburna

That's not what I said. You're assuming way too much. We could have stayed at 27 and took a center. But us taking position of need doesn't make it a good pick. The Vikings needed a linebacker, but I wouldn't have taken dude at 8 regardless. Not to mention receiver was a position of need anyway. We took a chance on a guy we believe in. Nothing wrong with that.

SaintsBro

You had the #4 ranked defense of young talent, and an aging, slow offense that sputtered and stalled when it needed an explosive play. What's the solution to fix this? The last thing you want to do is draft a fast explosive playmaker, I guess.

gumbeauxx

You just don't get it. I'm saying it was a bad pick. I'm saying it was not a pick to get any closer to a Super Bowl. As for 3rd picks making a Super Bowl:
Joe Montana
Dan Fouts
Aneas Williams
Jason Witten
Jimmy Graham
Brian Westbrook
Jeremiah Trotter
All third round picks off the top of my head. My point was also not just the third rounder we gave away, but the picks we lost by not moving down to allow someone to draft Bridgewater or Carr at 27. We could have picked up at least another 3rd, maybe a two 3rds and gotten the center/guard we desperately need. If Drew goes down, we go down.

gumbeauxx

Do you guys even read the posts you reply to? I didn't say anything about drafting anyone at 27. I said we should have traded down and taken center and picked up extra picks. There are tons more wr in this draft. Lee is still on the board. We didn't need to trade up to get a great wr. I do believe one of the best wr in 2006 draft was taken in the 7th round. What I am saying is historically only one or two centers in every draft make it in the NFL and in this one I think there is only two and we need one of them. With extra picks we could have manuevered in the second round to get what we needed. I am convinced we needed to move down not up.
By the way I took heat when I harpooned the Sullivan trade, the Wiliams trade, and the Ellis trade. In fact when I said the Williams trade was laughable I was kicked off one of the Saints Fan Sites for being a false fan just trying to cause trouble. I never did get an apology for being right on that one.

Mr.Riaton

Im sorry.

Rugby Saint II

He's a Saint now, so I love him

pumpkindriver

I totally understand your point gumbeauxx but I also see why they did it. Especially now that I have researched him and know who and what he is. I too was of the opinion, Hey! Don't we have other needs? Theres plenty of WR's left we can get in the 3rd. But after learning about the kid, I see that it was a great move. This kid is one we just couldn't pass up.

gumbeauxx

The question is how do you get the ball to Brandon Cooks when Drew is going to be either on his butt or running for his life? I know two things about football.
1. If you don't control the line of scrimmage all the skill players in the world mean nothing.
2. Great quarterbacks are nothing without an offensive line. Remember Archie Manning.
You cannot depend on an undrafted free agent center without a single nfl start to be your only option at center and right now that is exactly what the Saints are depending on.
I made three bold predictions last year that were totally laughed at. I predicted Atlanta and Houston would collapse. I saw the signs during the playoffs the year before.
I saw the same signs in the Saints against Seattle. They showed two weaknesses. One they addressed during free agency on defense and the other they did not address and still have not addressed. The offensive line is not good enough to win more than seven games.
I'll make another bold prediction, if the Saints don't address the offensive line soon Drew Brees will not make it to the eighth game this season. Without him the Saints are an average team at best.
So you guys can be all giddy about a wr that can't protect the qb a bit. But I'm warning you the Saints are in for a collapse if they keep putting their head in the sand. the offensive line gave up almost 2 sacks a game last this season. This line will give up more.

hagan714

i hated the trade!

BUT you knew deep down this was a player SP would love to have as his new play toy. My gut saw this early on. so be it he is this year version of Reggie. so i can accept it.

Now for the biggest BUT the cards with 27th got the player I wanted. The biggest fastest and a turn over machine in Buccanon.

The saints defense would be so much better with him at SS back there in a 3 safety set, then add in the CBIn the long run i think this was the better move. Bucannon has all the traits the made me so swishy washy on the Vacarro pick. hard hitter big speed and hands. in a 3 safety set the saints would have been scary, oh well we missed out on the best safety in the draft at 27.

I can not bless the trade but i know SP is a child that loves his toys! as the offense goes so do the saints. you know SP is drawing plays up on a napkin as we speak.

"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins

Marlboro Man

Love the player, hate the trade. Cooks would have been there at 27, and the draft itself shows that. I too want some O-Linemen. Notice I said linemen, as in more than 1. The Saints however do an EXCELLENT job with O-Linemen in the later rounds like 4th through 6th rounds and I fully expect them to do so in this draft. I'm looking for Stork in the 5th as well as a T. I just wish they hadn't gotten scared and wind up giving away our LB pick in the 3rd.