I don't like the trade

dizzle88 · 05-09-2014, 12:40 PM

I definitely see the immediate need for an explosive play maker like Cooks for this reason

Colston - awesome but ageing (injuries catch up with him more often)
Stills - going to be a great player but not a Number 1 WR as of yet
Morgan - constantly injured
Toon - Injured or hands of butter when he gets on the field
Graham - when he's on point, he's unstoppable, when defenders get physical he doesn't want to know
Watson - solid depth guy but is ageing
Meachem - has games where he has two massive plays, then disappears for weeks

We need a guy like cooks to inject some play making ability and some explosiveness to our offense as its been slowly degrading since 2012

saintfan · 05-09-2014, 01:35 PM

I'm sorry. This guy is Steve Smith with character, and he's worth every bit of that THIRD rounder we gave up to get him. He solves multiple issues and will keep us dynamic for years to come. I would have been happy with other players, and I could have been happy staying put or trading back too, but this was yet another excellent move by our FO. Period.

Danno · 05-09-2014, 01:41 PM

The absence of a 2014 3rd round pick is gonna cost us a Superbowl?

You are assuming way way too much on the trade-down scenarios.

jeanpierre · 05-10-2014, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

The absence of a 2014 3rd round pick is gonna cost us a Superbowl?

You are assuming way way too much on the trade-down scenarios.

Read the entire post, he said we were in position to trade down the position...

hagan714 · 05-10-2014, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Read the entire post, he said we were in position to trade down the position...

usual the case isn't it. for once in the mickey and SP erea i would love to see the saints walk away from a draft with picks in our back pocket for the following year. this was the draft to do in with out a doubt. but oh well i am use to it.

dizzle88 · 05-10-2014, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

usual the case isn't it. for once in the mickey and SP erea i would love to see the saints walk away from a draft with picks in our back pocket for the following year. this was the draft to do in with out a doubt. but oh well i am use to it.

Normally the teams that walk away with picks in their pocket for following years are typically - jags, raiders type teams, ones that are rebuilding over years

we are in a win now mentality

TwistedTiger · 05-10-2014, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Normally the teams that walk away with picks in their pocket for following years are typically - jags, raiders type teams, ones that are rebuilding over years

we are in a win now mentality

The Patriots are the best by far at stock piling picks. They are always in win now mode. San Francisco has done a good of the same lately. As bad as the Saints have been in the early rounds and as good as they have been in the mid to late rounds following the Patriots formula seems to make sense. I'm not big on trading up or back unless the players available don't have value that matches the slot you're picking in.

jeanpierre · 05-10-2014, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Normally the teams that walk away with picks in their pocket for following years are typically - jags, raiders type teams, ones that are rebuilding over years

Diz, how about the Patriots, Ravens and 49ers...

Mr.Riaton · 05-09-2014, 02:08 PM

As far as the 3rd rounder....weve went 2 drafts in a row w/o both seconds and a first and came out just fine. I aint sweatin it. Sean got this....relax.

SaintsBro · 05-09-2014, 04:31 PM

You had the #4 ranked defense of young talent, and an aging, slow offense that sputtered and stalled when it needed an explosive play. What's the solution to fix this? The last thing you want to do is draft a fast explosive playmaker, I guess.

05-09-2014, 12:40 PM	#1
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,532	Re: I don't like the trade I definitely see the immediate need for an explosive play maker like Cooks for this reason Colston - awesome but ageing (injuries catch up with him more often) Stills - going to be a great player but not a Number 1 WR as of yet Morgan - constantly injured Toon - Injured or hands of butter when he gets on the field Graham - when he's on point, he's unstoppable, when defenders get physical he doesn't want to know Watson - solid depth guy but is ageing Meachem - has games where he has two massive plays, then disappears for weeks We need a guy like cooks to inject some play making ability and some explosiveness to our offense as its been slowly degrading since 2012 jnormand, RailBoss, QBREES9 and 2 others like this.
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05-09-2014, 01:35 PM	#2
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: I don't like the trade I'm sorry. This guy is Steve Smith with character, and he's worth every bit of that THIRD rounder we gave up to get him. He solves multiple issues and will keep us dynamic for years to come. I would have been happy with other players, and I could have been happy staying put or trading back too, but this was yet another excellent move by our FO. Period. foreverfan, pumpkindriver, AsylumGuido and 3 others like this.

05-09-2014, 01:41 PM	#3
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: I don't like the trade The absence of a 2014 3rd round pick is gonna cost us a Superbowl? You are assuming way way too much on the trade-down scenarios. jnormand, biloxi-indian, QBREES9 and 2 others like this.

05-10-2014, 09:30 AM	#5
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: I don't like the trade Originally Posted by jeanpierre Read the entire post, he said we were in position to trade down the position... usual the case isn't it. for once in the mickey and SP erea i would love to see the saints walk away from a draft with picks in our back pocket for the following year. this was the draft to do in with out a doubt. but oh well i am use to it.

05-10-2014, 09:32 AM	#6
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,532	Re: I don't like the trade Originally Posted by hagan714 usual the case isn't it. for once in the mickey and SP erea i would love to see the saints walk away from a draft with picks in our back pocket for the following year. this was the draft to do in with out a doubt. but oh well i am use to it. Normally the teams that walk away with picks in their pocket for following years are typically - jags, raiders type teams, ones that are rebuilding over years we are in a win now mentality

05-10-2014, 09:09 AM	#4
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: I don't like the trade Originally Posted by Danno The absence of a 2014 3rd round pick is gonna cost us a Superbowl? You are assuming way way too much on the trade-down scenarios. Read the entire post, he said we were in position to trade down the position... hagan714 likes this.

05-10-2014, 09:54 AM	#7
TwistedTiger 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 180	Re: I don't like the trade Originally Posted by dizzle88 Normally the teams that walk away with picks in their pocket for following years are typically - jags, raiders type teams, ones that are rebuilding over years we are in a win now mentality The Patriots are the best by far at stock piling picks. They are always in win now mode. San Francisco has done a good of the same lately. As bad as the Saints have been in the early rounds and as good as they have been in the mid to late rounds following the Patriots formula seems to make sense. I'm not big on trading up or back unless the players available don't have value that matches the slot you're picking in.
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05-10-2014, 10:37 AM	#8
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: I don't like the trade Originally Posted by dizzle88 Normally the teams that walk away with picks in their pocket for following years are typically - jags, raiders type teams, ones that are rebuilding over years Diz, how about the Patriots, Ravens and 49ers...

05-09-2014, 02:08 PM	#9
Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,308	Re: I don't like the trade As far as the 3rd rounder....weve went 2 drafts in a row w/o both seconds and a first and came out just fine. I aint sweatin it. Sean got this....relax. Danno and biloxi-indian like this.

05-09-2014, 04:31 PM	#10
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: I don't like the trade You had the #4 ranked defense of young talent, and an aging, slow offense that sputtered and stalled when it needed an explosive play. What's the solution to fix this? The last thing you want to do is draft a fast explosive playmaker, I guess. pumpkindriver, AsylumGuido, exile and 3 others like this.

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