AB in Saints HoF

Danno · 05-19-2014, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

We have some legit guys now.. I am against adding marginally above average players just because we had futility for so long.

Can you imagine him even being considered in Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Dallas?

Have you compared our 40 plus years to those teams? We'd have about 3 players in our HOF if that were the standard.

ScottF · 05-19-2014, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Have you compared our 40 plus years to those teams? We'd have about 3 players in our HOF if that were the standard.

Oh I get it, and three might actually be generous... my point is that we should stop watering down. We should be a little more particular than "won our first playoff game".
Brees, Nicks, Colston, Graham?---all top notch at their positions.

Look at some guys we have already: Kilmer, Doug Atkins, even Dempsey. They were barely Saints.
I understand your point; I just feel that we can look beyond a guy who had 3 good seasons and choose a higher calibre of player.

Danno · 05-19-2014, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

Oh I get it, and three might actually be generous... my point is that we should stop watering down. We should be a little more particular than "won our first playoff game".
Brees, Nicks, Colston, Graham?---all top notch at their positions.

Look at some guys we have already: Kilmer, Doug Atkins, even Dempsey. They were barely Saints.
I understand your point; I just feel that we can look beyond a guy who had 3 good seasons and choose a higher calibre of player.

Well thats fine, but if you wanna leave Brooks out, you have a ton of players that need to be removed as well.

Just to be clear, a Saints Hall of Fame was an oxymoron for at least 40 years.

I just saw a "value" list on pro-reference and they had Brooks rated as the 15th best in our history. Seriously?

Kinda sad really. Its why I get embarrassed when newbies blast other teams futilty. We were the laughing stock of the NFL for nearly our entire existence.

Although I still don't mind making fun of Atlanta. They sucked as bad as we did, only they looked much more low-class doing it.

saintfan · 05-19-2014, 08:00 PM

I'm sure I'll offend. Whatever.

He absolutely belongs in the Saints HoF. Ab-SO-Lutely beongs.

Anybody who thinks otherwise is a moron.

Offense was never our problem during his tenure. Most of the AB hate - I mean the real AB hate - came from those who wanted Delhomme, and they used every excuse in the book, even going to far as to blame AB for our sorry defense. Determined to replace what at best they called "average" with another "average" because he was from here. BS is what it was/is.

He belongs. End of story. Period. Paragraph.

GOOD FOR YOU AB! I wish I could be there to see it.

Danno · 05-19-2014, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

I'm sure I'll offend. Whatever.

He absolutely belongs in the Saints HoF. Ab-SO-Lutely beongs.

Anybody who thinks otherwise is a moron.

Offense was never our problem during his tenure. Most of the AB hate - I mean the real AB hate - came from those who wanted Delhomme, and they used every excuse in the book, even going to far as to blame AB for our sorry defense. Determined to replace what at best they called "average" with another "average" because he was from here. BS is what it was/is.

He belongs. End of story. Period. Paragraph.

GOOD FOR YOU AB! I wish I could be there to see it.

|Mitch| · 05-19-2014, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

I'm sure I'll offend. Whatever.

He absolutely belongs in the Saints HoF. Ab-SO-Lutely beongs.

Anybody who thinks otherwise is a moron.

Offense was never our problem during his tenure. Most of the AB hate - I mean the real AB hate - came from those who wanted Delhomme, and they used every excuse in the book, even going to far as to blame AB for our sorry defense. Determined to replace what at best they called "average" with another "average" because he was from here. BS is what it was/is.

He belongs. End of story. Period. Paragraph.

GOOD FOR YOU AB! I wish I could be there to see it.

Very Well Said!

SaintsBro · 05-19-2014, 08:28 PM

Ahem, it was JEFF BLAKE who got the Saints to the playoffs where AB got the first playoff win. Brooks in that year was his usual, average, middling, 3-2 record. The QB that some people wanted in that era (Delhomme) went on to win an NFC Championship for his team, and go to a Pro Bowl, neither of which Brooks ever accomplished in his extremely average and mediocre NFL career as a Saint. Brooks left New Orleans and went to Oakland where he continued his trend of mediocrity. Delhomme left, led his new team to the Super Bowl, Pro Bowl, and still holds passing records for the Panthers that have not been topped.

TheOak · 05-19-2014, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

I'm sure I'll offend. Whatever.

Delhomme

The only word I found offensive.

Euphoria · 05-19-2014, 08:37 PM

If you look at our past... I say he deserves it.

He Did his job as a back up and won us our first play off game EVER to that point. He played brilliant and eventually it all falls apart for everyone. Our O line shares part of the blame for the debacle.

I have great memories of watching him play and he was a Saint... once a Saint always a Saint.

WhoDat!656 · 05-19-2014, 09:24 PM

I don't have a problem with AB in the Saints HOF.

I believe that if Hakim hadn't "...dropped the ball" the Rams would have won that game.

Brooks was Michael Vick before there was a Michael Vick and IMO the Saints trying to make him a pocket passer is what ruined him.

05-19-2014, 07:15 PM	#11
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: AB in Saints HoF Originally Posted by ScottF We have some legit guys now.. I am against adding marginally above average players just because we had futility for so long. Can you imagine him even being considered in Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Dallas? Have you compared our 40 plus years to those teams? We'd have about 3 players in our HOF if that were the standard.

05-19-2014, 07:44 PM	#12
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: AB in Saints HoF Originally Posted by Danno Have you compared our 40 plus years to those teams? We'd have about 3 players in our HOF if that were the standard. Oh I get it, and three might actually be generous... my point is that we should stop watering down. We should be a little more particular than "won our first playoff game". Brees, Nicks, Colston, Graham?---all top notch at their positions. Look at some guys we have already: Kilmer, Doug Atkins, even Dempsey. They were barely Saints. I understand your point; I just feel that we can look beyond a guy who had 3 good seasons and choose a higher calibre of player. SmashMouth likes this.

05-19-2014, 07:57 PM	#13
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: AB in Saints HoF Originally Posted by ScottF Oh I get it, and three might actually be generous... my point is that we should stop watering down. We should be a little more particular than "won our first playoff game". Brees, Nicks, Colston, Graham?---all top notch at their positions. Look at some guys we have already: Kilmer, Doug Atkins, even Dempsey. They were barely Saints. I understand your point; I just feel that we can look beyond a guy who had 3 good seasons and choose a higher calibre of player. Well thats fine, but if you wanna leave Brooks out, you have a ton of players that need to be removed as well. Just to be clear, a Saints Hall of Fame was an oxymoron for at least 40 years. I just saw a "value" list on pro-reference and they had Brooks rated as the 15th best in our history. Seriously? Kinda sad really. Its why I get embarrassed when newbies blast other teams futilty. We were the laughing stock of the NFL for nearly our entire existence. Although I still don't mind making fun of Atlanta. They sucked as bad as we did, only they looked much more low-class doing it. Boutte, ScottF and AliJee like this.

05-19-2014, 08:00 PM	#14
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: AB in Saints HoF I'm sure I'll offend. Whatever. He absolutely belongs in the Saints HoF. Ab-SO-Lutely beongs. Anybody who thinks otherwise is a moron. Offense was never our problem during his tenure. Most of the AB hate - I mean the real AB hate - came from those who wanted Delhomme, and they used every excuse in the book, even going to far as to blame AB for our sorry defense. Determined to replace what at best they called "average" with another "average" because he was from here. BS is what it was/is. He belongs. End of story. Period. Paragraph. GOOD FOR YOU AB! I wish I could be there to see it. Danno, foreverfan, exile and 4 others like this.
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05-19-2014, 08:07 PM	#15
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: AB in Saints HoF Originally Posted by saintfan I'm sure I'll offend. Whatever. He absolutely belongs in the Saints HoF. Ab-SO-Lutely beongs. Anybody who thinks otherwise is a moron. Offense was never our problem during his tenure. Most of the AB hate - I mean the real AB hate - came from those who wanted Delhomme, and they used every excuse in the book, even going to far as to blame AB for our sorry defense. Determined to replace what at best they called "average" with another "average" because he was from here. BS is what it was/is. He belongs. End of story. Period. Paragraph. GOOD FOR YOU AB! I wish I could be there to see it.

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05-19-2014, 08:17 PM	#16
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: AB in Saints HoF Originally Posted by saintfan I'm sure I'll offend. Whatever. He absolutely belongs in the Saints HoF. Ab-SO-Lutely beongs. Anybody who thinks otherwise is a moron. Offense was never our problem during his tenure. Most of the AB hate - I mean the real AB hate - came from those who wanted Delhomme, and they used every excuse in the book, even going to far as to blame AB for our sorry defense. Determined to replace what at best they called "average" with another "average" because he was from here. BS is what it was/is. He belongs. End of story. Period. Paragraph. GOOD FOR YOU AB! I wish I could be there to see it. Very Well Said!

05-19-2014, 08:28 PM	#17
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: AB in Saints HoF Ahem, it was JEFF BLAKE who got the Saints to the playoffs where AB got the first playoff win. Brooks in that year was his usual, average, middling, 3-2 record. The QB that some people wanted in that era (Delhomme) went on to win an NFC Championship for his team, and go to a Pro Bowl, neither of which Brooks ever accomplished in his extremely average and mediocre NFL career as a Saint. Brooks left New Orleans and went to Oakland where he continued his trend of mediocrity. Delhomme left, led his new team to the Super Bowl, Pro Bowl, and still holds passing records for the Panthers that have not been topped. ScottF, jeanpierre, st thomas and 2 others like this.
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05-19-2014, 08:32 PM	#18
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	AB in Saints HoF Originally Posted by saintfan I'm sure I'll offend. Whatever. Delhomme The only word I found offensive. saintfan likes this.

05-19-2014, 08:37 PM	#19
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: AB in Saints HoF If you look at our past... I say he deserves it. He Did his job as a back up and won us our first play off game EVER to that point. He played brilliant and eventually it all falls apart for everyone. Our O line shares part of the blame for the debacle. I have great memories of watching him play and he was a Saint... once a Saint always a Saint. saintfan likes this.

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WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,046	Re: AB in Saints HoF I don't have a problem with AB in the Saints HOF. I believe that if Hakim hadn't "...dropped the ball" the Rams would have won that game. Brooks was Michael Vick before there was a Michael Vick and IMO the Saints trying to make him a pocket passer is what ruined him. Saintsfan4ever likes this.

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