Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints

SAINTstunna · 06-10-2014, 12:00 PM

I'm sick of this JG thing . . He needs to realize his numbers are as much to credit to Drew Brees as to himself . . . Let him test the waters with another team and experience a mediocre QB and life without playoff hopes . . He will indeed have plenty of money to spend in his long off season, but if he wants to go down is history with the biggest name in tight ends he need to shut the F#@$ up and play ball with the WHO DATT nation !!! !! lets get it baby . . . TWO DATT! !!

Mardigras9 · 06-10-2014, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by SAINTstunna

. . He needs to realize his numbers are as much to credit to Drew Brees as to himself . . .

Amen brother, hard not to catch the ball when it's hitting you in the helmet most of the time.

AsylumGuido · 06-10-2014, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by Mardigras9

Amen brother, hard not to catch the ball when it's hitting you in the helmet most of the time.

You are obviously watching something I haven't seen and I have seen every pass ever thrown Graham's direction.

WhoDat!656 · 06-10-2014, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by SAINTstunna

I'm sick of this JG thing . . He needs to realize his numbers are as much to credit to Drew Brees as to himself . . . Let him test the waters with another team and experience a mediocre QB and life without playoff hopes . . He will indeed have plenty of money to spend in his long off season, but if he wants to go down is history with the biggest name in tight ends he need to shut the F#@$ up and play ball with the WHO DATT nation !!! !! lets get it baby . . . TWO DATT! !!

Graham needs to talk to Meachem

SaintFanInATLHELL · 06-10-2014, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

Graham needs to talk to Meachem

Different situation. Meachem played out his rookie contract. The Saints declined to make him an offer and let him go to the free agent market.

They were right on the money. San Diego overpaid and his production was poor.

But it's not like Meachem was the #1 receiving option during his first stint with the Saints. Even his best year was 45 receptions for 722 yards and 7 TDs. Compared to JG, that's pretty laughable.

Why is everyone equating the fact the JG's not agreeing to the first contract offered to his wanting to leave?

This is a contract negotiation. Two parties, each with their own agenda make offers and counteroffers until they come to an agreement. Problem here is that there are facts not in evidence. Specifically the franchise tag designation for Graham. Once that is established (IMHO he'll remain tagged as a TE) it shouldn't take too terribly long to get the deal done.

Let's not forget we had the same questions with Brees 2 years ago. Remember that Brees argued that he was being tagged for the 2nd or 3rd time? Same thing. Went the arbitation. Went against Brees. Contract got done. Richest in QB history (for 5 minutes). Looks like a bargain 2 years later. And I remember that some wanted to get rid of him too. SMDH.

As for Meachem. 2 Years, 14 receptions, 207 yards, 2 TD, for a guaranteed payday of $14 million. What's not to like?

SFIAH

AsylumGuido · 06-10-2014, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

Graham needs to talk to Meachem

About what? Meachem was a free agent and his agent got him more money than the Saints were able to match. That money is now in his pocket. Graham, on the other hand, is a player that the Saints ARE willing to pay handsomely and he will get the money he deserves and all parties will be happy... that is, once the league and the NFLPA resolve their little issue with the tag designation.

Besides, it isn't Meachem or Graham making these calls. It is the person that they signed to do all of this dirty work ... the agent.

Utah_Saint · 06-10-2014, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by SAINTstunna

he need to shut the F#@$ up and play ball with the WHO DATT nation !!! !! lets get it baby . . . TWO DATT! !!

What did he say?

SaintFanInATLHELL · 06-10-2014, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by SAINTstunna

... he need to shut the F#@$ up and play ball with the WHO DATT nation !!! !!

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

What did he say?

Nothing. He's said nothing. He has an agent that's doing his job, which is trying to maximize his client's value. He has a player's association that is attempting to redefine the position for franchise tag purposes. He hasn't signed his franchise tender, nor agreed to a long term contract with the team. Of course it's just common sense not to do so, since his value has not yet been established.

He didn't show up to voluntary OTAs. Note that he is currently a free agent and has no contractual obligation to participate in any Saints activities.

He has not touted his career numbers, which BTW are on a Hall of Fame pace. He has not spoken out about the team and how they are mistreating him. He's not spouting off on Twitter about how he needs to be paid.

He has said absolutely, positively nothing at all.

So I just gotta ask: Why U Mad Bro?

SFIAH

AsylumGuido · 06-10-2014, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Nothing. He's said nothing. He has an agent that's doing his job, which is trying to maximize his client's value. He has a player's association that is attempting to redefine the position for franchise tag purposes. He hasn't signed his franchise tender, nor agreed to a long term contract with the team. Of course it's just common sense not to do so, since his value has not yet been established.

He didn't show up to voluntary OTAs. Note that he is currently a free agent and has no contractual obligation to participate in any Saints activities.

He has not touted his career numbers, which BTW are on a Hall of Fame pace. He has not spoken out about the team and how they are mistreating him. He's not spouting off on Twitter about how he needs to be paid.

He has said absolutely, positively nothing at all.

So I just gotta ask: Why U Mad Bro?

SFIAH

I empathize with you, brother. I just can't understand why these people get a burr up their ass over nothing. Few players in the league have shown the class demonstrated by Graham.

AsylumGuido · 06-10-2014, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

What did he say?

Nothing. Not a word.

06-10-2014, 12:20 PM	#2
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints Originally Posted by SAINTstunna . . He needs to realize his numbers are as much to credit to Drew Brees as to himself . . . Amen brother, hard not to catch the ball when it's hitting you in the helmet most of the time.

06-10-2014, 02:03 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,762	Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints Originally Posted by Mardigras9 Amen brother, hard not to catch the ball when it's hitting you in the helmet most of the time. You are obviously watching something I haven't seen and I have seen every pass ever thrown Graham's direction.

06-10-2014, 12:34 PM	#4
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,094	Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints Originally Posted by SAINTstunna I'm sick of this JG thing . . He needs to realize his numbers are as much to credit to Drew Brees as to himself . . . Let him test the waters with another team and experience a mediocre QB and life without playoff hopes . . He will indeed have plenty of money to spend in his long off season, but if he wants to go down is history with the biggest name in tight ends he need to shut the F#@$ up and play ball with the WHO DATT nation !!! !! lets get it baby . . . TWO DATT! !! Graham needs to talk to Meachem foreverfan likes this.

06-10-2014, 01:28 PM	#5
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,787	Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 Graham needs to talk to Meachem Different situation. Meachem played out his rookie contract. The Saints declined to make him an offer and let him go to the free agent market. They were right on the money. San Diego overpaid and his production was poor. But it's not like Meachem was the #1 receiving option during his first stint with the Saints. Even his best year was 45 receptions for 722 yards and 7 TDs. Compared to JG, that's pretty laughable. Why is everyone equating the fact the JG's not agreeing to the first contract offered to his wanting to leave? This is a contract negotiation. Two parties, each with their own agenda make offers and counteroffers until they come to an agreement. Problem here is that there are facts not in evidence. Specifically the franchise tag designation for Graham. Once that is established (IMHO he'll remain tagged as a TE) it shouldn't take too terribly long to get the deal done. Let's not forget we had the same questions with Brees 2 years ago. Remember that Brees argued that he was being tagged for the 2nd or 3rd time? Same thing. Went the arbitation. Went against Brees. Contract got done. Richest in QB history (for 5 minutes). Looks like a bargain 2 years later. And I remember that some wanted to get rid of him too. SMDH. As for Meachem. 2 Years, 14 receptions, 207 yards, 2 TD, for a guaranteed payday of $14 million. What's not to like? SFIAH
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06-10-2014, 02:10 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,762	Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 Graham needs to talk to Meachem About what? Meachem was a free agent and his agent got him more money than the Saints were able to match. That money is now in his pocket. Graham, on the other hand, is a player that the Saints ARE willing to pay handsomely and he will get the money he deserves and all parties will be happy... that is, once the league and the NFLPA resolve their little issue with the tag designation. Besides, it isn't Meachem or Graham making these calls. It is the person that they signed to do all of this dirty work ... the agent.

06-10-2014, 12:00 PM	#1
SAINTstunna 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: SACRAMENTO, CA Posts: 249 Blog Entries: 9	Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints I'm sick of this JG thing . . He needs to realize his numbers are as much to credit to Drew Brees as to himself . . . Let him test the waters with another team and experience a mediocre QB and life without playoff hopes . . He will indeed have plenty of money to spend in his long off season, but if he wants to go down is history with the biggest name in tight ends he need to shut the F#@$ up and play ball with the WHO DATT nation !!! !! lets get it baby . . . TWO DATT! !! Mardigras9 likes this.

06-10-2014, 12:43 PM	#7
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints Originally Posted by SAINTstunna he need to shut the F#@$ up and play ball with the WHO DATT nation !!! !! lets get it baby . . . TWO DATT! !! What did he say?

06-10-2014, 01:12 PM	#8
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,787	Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints Originally Posted by SAINTstunna ... he need to shut the F#@$ up and play ball with the WHO DATT nation !!! !! Originally Posted by Utah_Saint What did he say? Nothing. He's said nothing. He has an agent that's doing his job, which is trying to maximize his client's value. He has a player's association that is attempting to redefine the position for franchise tag purposes. He hasn't signed his franchise tender, nor agreed to a long term contract with the team. Of course it's just common sense not to do so, since his value has not yet been established. He didn't show up to voluntary OTAs. Note that he is currently a free agent and has no contractual obligation to participate in any Saints activities. He has not touted his career numbers, which BTW are on a Hall of Fame pace. He has not spoken out about the team and how they are mistreating him. He's not spouting off on Twitter about how he needs to be paid. He has said absolutely, positively nothing at all. So I just gotta ask: Why U Mad Bro? SFIAH AsylumGuido and SaintGup like this.
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06-10-2014, 02:15 PM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,762	Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Nothing. He's said nothing. He has an agent that's doing his job, which is trying to maximize his client's value. He has a player's association that is attempting to redefine the position for franchise tag purposes. He hasn't signed his franchise tender, nor agreed to a long term contract with the team. Of course it's just common sense not to do so, since his value has not yet been established. He didn't show up to voluntary OTAs. Note that he is currently a free agent and has no contractual obligation to participate in any Saints activities. He has not touted his career numbers, which BTW are on a Hall of Fame pace. He has not spoken out about the team and how they are mistreating him. He's not spouting off on Twitter about how he needs to be paid. He has said absolutely, positively nothing at all. So I just gotta ask: Why U Mad Bro? SFIAH I empathize with you, brother. I just can't understand why these people get a burr up their ass over nothing. Few players in the league have shown the class demonstrated by Graham.

06-10-2014, 02:11 PM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,762	Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints Originally Posted by Utah_Saint What did he say? Nothing. Not a word.

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