Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints

WhoDat!656 · 06-10-2014, 09:14 AM

If the grievance hearing falls in Graham’s favor the Saints will face roster decisions and contract renegotiations. But even if Graham loses, his franchise tag is non-exclusive, meaning any team can tender an offer sheet. The Saints meager cap space leaves them vulnerable to a serious offer.

Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints

Seer1 · 06-10-2014, 10:47 AM

The only way he goes is if Loomis lets him go. There'll be no thievery. I bet the top guys are dying to Cooks over to the Big Easy to see if he and the rest of the receiving corp can thrive without Graham. I'm thinkin' they can.

dizzle88 · 06-10-2014, 11:31 AM

Would hate to see him go but with the way he's acted about this whole situation if he did go I'd love to see him go to jacksonville or oakland, plus get two first round picks for him aswell

SaintFanInATLHELL · 06-10-2014, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Would hate to see him go but with the way he's acted about this whole situation if he did go I'd love to see him go to jacksonville or oakland, plus get two first round picks for him aswell

Can you explain his actions? Like Vernon Davis, who didn't show for OTA's in protest while still under contract? Or like Josh Gordon, who cannot keep out of trouble?

The NFL is a $9 billion/year market place where even hall of fame players are only going to get 3-4 contracts. It's just common sense to attempt to maximize your contract value when the opportunity comes.

I firmly disagree with most of the opinions here. I wouldn't want a player that doesn't believe in his abilities and fights for fair value for the opportunity to offer those services to a team. Someone who doesn't do that doesn't believe in themselves. That's not a player that I'd want on my squad.

Now should the Saints do everything in their power to manage the value of the contract? Of course. But to deem the "actions" of doing business as usual as worthy of ejection just seems to be a bit much to me.

Let me tell you the "action" that I saw that shows JG's commitment. Playing on an injured foot, specifically a partially torn plantar fascia, for much of last season and still playing at a high level.

SFIAH

AsylumGuido · 06-10-2014, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Would hate to see him go but with the way he's acted about this whole situation if he did go I'd love to see him go to jacksonville or oakland, plus get two first round picks for him aswell

What do you mean "the way he's acted about this whole situation"? Graham has been totally out of the public eye concerning everything contract related. He has done absolutely nothing wrong. This "whole situation" is nothing more than the average contract negotiation between an agent and a team's front office and the NFLPA versus the league office (in the case of the franchise tag designation). As these things go this one has been extremely low-key and uneventful. Jimmy Graham has been completely above reproach throughout the entire affair.

It is really beginning to irritate me reading these totally misguided statements.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 06-10-2014, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

What do you mean "the way he's acted about this whole situation"? Graham has been totally out of the public eye concerning everything contract related. He has done absolutely nothing wrong. This "whole situation" is nothing more than the average contract negotiation between an agent and a team's front office and the NFLPA versus the league office (in the case of the franchise tag designation). As these things go this one has been extremely low-key and uneventful. Jimmy Graham has been completely above reproach throughout the entire affair.

Another WINNER!!! BING!

It is really beginning to irritate me reading these totally misguided statements.

I've simply decided that I will refute each and every post I see in that vein until someone starts explaining what they mean in reality instead of just what they feel.

The feeling is:

1. JG should be grateful to be with the Saints.

2. That JG's number only exists because of the offense he is in.

3. That JG is "soft" and can be shut down by physical long corners.

4. That JG doesn't block.

5. That the Saints would improve if the traded JG (they cannot BTW) or got the two first round picks for him leaving (both a fantasy and debatable vis a vis its accuracy).

6. That since he didn't sign his contract, he doesn't want to be here.

7. The most important thing: He makes a ton of money, so why is he "complaining" and why is he not satisfied with what the team is offering him?

Because of these feelings, many which are misguided, many think that he's some type of cancer and needs to be gone.

It's crazy talk man. I mean totally looney toons.

SFIAH

AsylumGuido · 06-10-2014, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Another WINNER!!! BING!

I've simply decided that I will refute each and every post I see in that vein until someone starts explaining what they mean in reality instead of just what they feel.

The feeling is:

1. JG should be grateful to be with the Saints.

2. That JG's number only exists because of the offense he is in.

3. That JG is "soft" and can be shut down by physical long corners.

4. That JG doesn't block.

5. That the Saints would improve if the traded JG (they cannot BTW) or got the two first round picks for him leaving (both a fantasy and debatable vis a vis its accuracy).

6. That since he didn't sign his contract, he doesn't want to be here.

7. The most important thing: He makes a ton of money, so why is he "complaining" and why is he not satisfied with what the team is offering him?

Because of these feelings, many which are misguided, many think that he's some type of cancer and needs to be gone.

It's crazy talk man. I mean totally looney toons.

SFIAH

I know what you mean, and I too will continue to attempt to educate those who appear to not have a clue concerning all things negotiation related.

SAINTstunna · 06-10-2014, 12:00 PM

I'm sick of this JG thing . . He needs to realize his numbers are as much to credit to Drew Brees as to himself . . . Let him test the waters with another team and experience a mediocre QB and life without playoff hopes . . He will indeed have plenty of money to spend in his long off season, but if he wants to go down is history with the biggest name in tight ends he need to shut the F#@$ up and play ball with the WHO DATT nation !!! !! lets get it baby . . . TWO DATT! !!

Mardigras9 · 06-10-2014, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by SAINTstunna

. . He needs to realize his numbers are as much to credit to Drew Brees as to himself . . .

Amen brother, hard not to catch the ball when it's hitting you in the helmet most of the time.

AsylumGuido · 06-10-2014, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by Mardigras9

Amen brother, hard not to catch the ball when it's hitting you in the helmet most of the time.

You are obviously watching something I haven't seen and I have seen every pass ever thrown Graham's direction.

06-10-2014, 09:14 AM	#1
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,085	Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints If the grievance hearing falls in Graham’s favor the Saints will face roster decisions and contract renegotiations. But even if Graham loses, his franchise tag is non-exclusive, meaning any team can tender an offer sheet. The Saints meager cap space leaves them vulnerable to a serious offer. Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints

06-10-2014, 10:47 AM	#2
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints The only way he goes is if Loomis lets him go. There'll be no thievery. I bet the top guys are dying to Cooks over to the Big Easy to see if he and the rest of the receiving corp can thrive without Graham. I'm thinkin' they can. Rugby Saint II likes this.

06-10-2014, 11:31 AM	#3
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints Would hate to see him go but with the way he's acted about this whole situation if he did go I'd love to see him go to jacksonville or oakland, plus get two first round picks for him aswell Beastmode likes this.

06-10-2014, 01:01 PM	#4
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,781	Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints Originally Posted by dizzle88 Would hate to see him go but with the way he's acted about this whole situation if he did go I'd love to see him go to jacksonville or oakland, plus get two first round picks for him aswell Can you explain his actions? Like Vernon Davis, who didn't show for OTA's in protest while still under contract? Or like Josh Gordon, who cannot keep out of trouble? The NFL is a $9 billion/year market place where even hall of fame players are only going to get 3-4 contracts. It's just common sense to attempt to maximize your contract value when the opportunity comes. I firmly disagree with most of the opinions here. I wouldn't want a player that doesn't believe in his abilities and fights for fair value for the opportunity to offer those services to a team. Someone who doesn't do that doesn't believe in themselves. That's not a player that I'd want on my squad. Now should the Saints do everything in their power to manage the value of the contract? Of course. But to deem the "actions" of doing business as usual as worthy of ejection just seems to be a bit much to me. Let me tell you the "action" that I saw that shows JG's commitment. Playing on an injured foot, specifically a partially torn plantar fascia, for much of last season and still playing at a high level. SFIAH AsylumGuido and SaintGup like this.
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06-10-2014, 01:58 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints Originally Posted by dizzle88 Would hate to see him go but with the way he's acted about this whole situation if he did go I'd love to see him go to jacksonville or oakland, plus get two first round picks for him aswell What do you mean "the way he's acted about this whole situation"? Graham has been totally out of the public eye concerning everything contract related. He has done absolutely nothing wrong. This "whole situation" is nothing more than the average contract negotiation between an agent and a team's front office and the NFLPA versus the league office (in the case of the franchise tag designation). As these things go this one has been extremely low-key and uneventful. Jimmy Graham has been completely above reproach throughout the entire affair. It is really beginning to irritate me reading these totally misguided statements. hagan714 and SaintGup like this.

06-10-2014, 02:06 PM	#6
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,781	Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido What do you mean "the way he's acted about this whole situation"? Graham has been totally out of the public eye concerning everything contract related. He has done absolutely nothing wrong. This "whole situation" is nothing more than the average contract negotiation between an agent and a team's front office and the NFLPA versus the league office (in the case of the franchise tag designation). As these things go this one has been extremely low-key and uneventful. Jimmy Graham has been completely above reproach throughout the entire affair. Another WINNER!!! BING! It is really beginning to irritate me reading these totally misguided statements. I've simply decided that I will refute each and every post I see in that vein until someone starts explaining what they mean in reality instead of just what they feel. The feeling is: 1. JG should be grateful to be with the Saints. 2. That JG's number only exists because of the offense he is in. 3. That JG is "soft" and can be shut down by physical long corners. 4. That JG doesn't block. 5. That the Saints would improve if the traded JG (they cannot BTW) or got the two first round picks for him leaving (both a fantasy and debatable vis a vis its accuracy). 6. That since he didn't sign his contract, he doesn't want to be here. 7. The most important thing: He makes a ton of money, so why is he "complaining" and why is he not satisfied with what the team is offering him? Because of these feelings, many which are misguided, many think that he's some type of cancer and needs to be gone. It's crazy talk man. I mean totally looney toons. SFIAH AsylumGuido and SaintGup like this.
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06-10-2014, 02:19 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Another WINNER!!! BING! I've simply decided that I will refute each and every post I see in that vein until someone starts explaining what they mean in reality instead of just what they feel. The feeling is: 1. JG should be grateful to be with the Saints. 2. That JG's number only exists because of the offense he is in. 3. That JG is "soft" and can be shut down by physical long corners. 4. That JG doesn't block. 5. That the Saints would improve if the traded JG (they cannot BTW) or got the two first round picks for him leaving (both a fantasy and debatable vis a vis its accuracy). 6. That since he didn't sign his contract, he doesn't want to be here. 7. The most important thing: He makes a ton of money, so why is he "complaining" and why is he not satisfied with what the team is offering him? Because of these feelings, many which are misguided, many think that he's some type of cancer and needs to be gone. It's crazy talk man. I mean totally looney toons. SFIAH I know what you mean, and I too will continue to attempt to educate those who appear to not have a clue concerning all things negotiation related. hagan714 and saintsfan403 like this.

06-10-2014, 12:00 PM	#8
SAINTstunna 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: SACRAMENTO, CA Posts: 249 Blog Entries: 9	Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints I'm sick of this JG thing . . He needs to realize his numbers are as much to credit to Drew Brees as to himself . . . Let him test the waters with another team and experience a mediocre QB and life without playoff hopes . . He will indeed have plenty of money to spend in his long off season, but if he wants to go down is history with the biggest name in tight ends he need to shut the F#@$ up and play ball with the WHO DATT nation !!! !! lets get it baby . . . TWO DATT! !! Mardigras9 likes this.

06-10-2014, 12:20 PM	#9
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints Originally Posted by SAINTstunna . . He needs to realize his numbers are as much to credit to Drew Brees as to himself . . . Amen brother, hard not to catch the ball when it's hitting you in the helmet most of the time.

06-10-2014, 02:03 PM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints Originally Posted by Mardigras9 Amen brother, hard not to catch the ball when it's hitting you in the helmet most of the time. You are obviously watching something I haven't seen and I have seen every pass ever thrown Graham's direction.

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