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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I would put quite a bit of money on the fact that you couldn't. Graham is not your prototypical blocking TE. His value as a playmaker FAR, FAR outweighs any perception that he can't block. I ...
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Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
I disagree with the playmaker statement because a playmaker produces and overcomes. Grahams been shut out by corners before, where were his playmakingt abilities then. I also disagree that we are better with him on the field. He is no more than a product of Paytons system. If he leaves he could easily be replaced by a traditional TE( one that does what a TE does) and a little different playcalling we wouldn't miss a beat and would be better as a O.
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Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints
Originally Posted by halloween 65
I disagree completely. He has been shutdown a couple of times by extremely physical corners that got away with more than would normally be allowed. There is not another TE in the league that could have done anything more under those circumstances. And, replacing him with a traditional TE would mean one less real threat in the passing game. Graham has led the entire league in receiving TD's over the past two seasons. That is huge!![]()
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Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints
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Last season Graham scored more touchdowns than anyone else in the NFL. If that's getting shut out too often, that's a pretty high standard.![]()
He's gotten more yards per season and TDs per season since he became a starter than any receiver Drew has ever played with or that Payton has ever been the head coach for. If it's true that he's just a product of Payton's system, he's the best product Payton's system has produced so far. |
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Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints
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Utah, it's not a question of his inherent ability - it's the fact that when he's failed to overcome in big games, i.e. Seattle, the Saints lose...![]()
He really needs to own guys like Sherman and Talib in THEIR house as well as his own... |
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Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints
Originally Posted by jeanpierre
In the regular season game against Seattle, Graham was the only Saint that scored but it's his fault the Saints lost?![]()
Everybody gets shut down sometime. When you lead the league in touchdowns, you're not getting shut down often? |
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Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints
Jimmy Graham is the new Aaron Brooks at B&G. A good player that many argue is not that great and that the Saints would be better without him.
To be clear, the Saints actually were better without Brooks in 2006 when he was replaced by a future Hall of Famer. But... I'd better stop there before I add too much fuel to this fire. |
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Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints
Originally Posted by iceshack149
There is no doubt the man is a beast. The point I raise is don't over pay. We won without him before we can do it again.
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Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints
Originally Posted by voodooido
He will not be overpaid. As one of the top offensive threats in the game he is a bargain at $11 per year, which can easily be structured in a way to open up an additional $3-$4M in cap space for 2014. ![]()
Can the Saints win without him? Sure they can, but they are undoubtedly better with him. I want the taste of another Super Bowl win and Graham gives us a far better chance to achieve that goal. |
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Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints
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I'm just saying that he's struggled, been shutdown against the elite cornerbacks; when we needed him to get crucial first downs, he's been on the short end of coming down on the ball despite having superior size and athleticism... Look, I've been a Graham fan since I saw him his first training camp (went so homer that I dropped Dallas Clark in Fantasy Keeper for Graham before his rookie campaign); but when you want elite money, you've got to come down with the ball against the elite... Do I want to get rid of Graham - H**L, Neaux! But his success is as much about the table that is set in New Orleans than anything and I find the argument for more money like a top five WR has many holes in it... |
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Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints
Originally Posted by jeanpierre
The top 5 WR's get shut down by Talib and Sherman.
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