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And what is he demanding? He has never mentioned anything about the contract. In addition, what we as fans feel a player is worth in not relevant. What is important is what the team feels he is worth. What exactly is the player that has led the NFL in touchdowns over the past two seasons worth?

The cap consequences are trivial based the 2015-16 projected levels. Loomis has also proven to be a wizard at structuring contracts in such a manner to avoid hardships.

So why be angry at Graham, who has personally demanded nothing?

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as of 6:30 EST, there is nothing out there. The hearing started yesterday, and will conclude today. I think we'll know tonight

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Where are those fans? On this board? I don't think so. Leave it alone. I find this "don't hate JG" thing unnecessary and very annoying.

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His cap designation has nothing to do with his cap hit. He is going to get a long term deal between $10M and $11M average per year. Probably a little over a third of that will be guaranteed and most of that will come in the form of a signing bonus. His year one base salary will be minimal and combined with the prorated bonus will likely keep his 2014 cap hit to less than $6M, which is by the way at least $1.3M LESS than he is currently counting against the cap.

There is absolutely no danger of not being able to keep him WELL below the cap regardless of the outcome of the NFLPA vs. NFL franchise tag hearing.

Relax. Take a deep breath and partake of some alcohol.

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I read long ago he turned down a 10 million per season offer.

And if he wants 12 million, I think its too much. If the Saints only offer 8, I think thats too little.

No one has the right to tell me how I should feel about the situation.

Its true I wouldn't classify its as greed. I'd classify it as the player is asking for too much and me not wanting to cave in to his demands.

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Yes. Some of those very fans are on this board, as well as on several other sites. To many of us this "I hate Graham" and "Graham is greedy" crap is very annoying and totally unnecessary.

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I read something like that, too. But, I have never been able to find any real source that it actually happened and, in fact, have not been able to find that claim at all. And believe me, I have searched extensively. And if he actually did, then good on him because he will get more than that even IF the result of the tag hearing sets his designation as a TE.

And, once again, the demands are not his. The tag designation issue is NFLPA driven and any negotiations are agent driven.

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No. We will know nothing until next week. It took a full week for the same arbitrator, Stephen Burbank, to rule on the NFLPA vs. NFL case involving the Drew Brees tag in 2012.

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This guy doesn't get it. But he clearly thinks he's above all understanding.

I won't say Graham is downright greedy, but I will say he's selfish. Is there a difference? Not much, but I guess it doesn't sound as harsh.

Here's the point this guy is missing. When the average person asks for a raise it's only a dollar or maybe a few dollars depending on what kind of job you have. So I don't blame Jimmy for wanting more money, and he obviously earned himself a hefty raise from what he WAS making. And he was going to get just that. How many people get a raise worth millions of dollars? But the problem is he doesn't stop there. He wants to almost double what the team is offering.

If I walk up to my boss and say "hey boss, I want you to double my salary, because I think I deserve it more than anyone else here"... Would you simply say that I'm trying to do what's best for me, or would you call me a douche bag? There's a difference between fairness and exorbitance. You might even say Greed.

I'm a capitalist, and I think it's a great system when properly used. But even in capitalism there are limits to what people can do. You have the right to earn and work your way up, but you can't just arbitrarily decide that you suddenly deserve way more than somebody thinks you're worth. You are free to request it, as he has... But it doesn't look good on you when you're asking price is beyond reason.

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Just curious, where did you hear he was demanding twice what the team is offering?