Revisiting Seattle: When the Saints Nearly Broke the Legion of Boom

hennr · 07-20-2014, 08:08 AM

also sea chicks QB was the golden boy last year.If the saints did what sea chiks did say from 20 yard line Refs throw about 6 to 7 flags put ball on one yard line.Point was only a loop hole for a few teams but the one with a wink an nod was sea hicks champs shame on them.Yes refs could have broke up B sht they were allowed to do think back how they did 3 flags in a row on Drew trying to draw other team off side an Drew was within letter of rules he did it the 3rd time because he was so pissed at REFS.REFs need to be under a independent body of reps one for each of the 32 teams.

Audiotom · 07-20-2014, 01:03 PM

The sad part is its not just Seattle and if its cracked down on Seattle will act like they are being singled out

Note L Keuchly mugging Jimmy Graham while in the air
Not only no flag, no response from the broadcasters and no second showing of the obvios slow mo replay

Talib mugging Graham

Patriots/Pathers last play
An obvious flag was thrown then the head ref with no angle on the play had it picked up

I am amazed they only throw a flag or two a game on the secondary

Offensive holding could be every play
And also at times the most tcky tacky touch is called holding to stop a drive

You shouldn't have to compete against the other team and the zebras

Not to be a conspiracy theorists but
Goddell in no way wanted the Saints winning it

hennr · 07-22-2014, 07:50 AM

Reason Jimmy just had his big payday is because he is hard to defend if the other team is forced to play by rules.When Michael jordan was at top of his game what if zebras let other team mugg him.First few game in 2013 refs were fair an saints unstopable so to keep them from home field edge to me there was a wink an nod on rules change when teams played saints.Now sea chicks wre allowed to get by with on the field murder all year.

blackangold · 07-22-2014, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

It's not going to be a long time. The NFL rules committee announced they were going to crack down on defensive holding, illegal contact and pass interference this season.

Mike Pereira made that tweet about the hawks not being looked at, when he was reporting on the rules committee meetings. There was no implication that the Seahawks were clean only that none of he examples given during the meeting were of the Seahawks.

Is NFL planning to get tighter on defensive holding and illegal contact? | Seahawks Blog | Seattle Times

In fact Mike Pereira agrees the Seahawks do hold and get away with it.

The Seattle Seahawks—the favorites to make the Super Bowl out of the NFC—employ an exasperating defensive game plan: They blitz rarely and drop an army of defenders into pass coverage. And those defenders mug, obstruct and foul opposing receivers on practically every play.

Quietly, the Seahawks have achieved a 13-3 record and home-field advantage throughout the NFC playoffs by exploiting a loophole: NFL referees are reluctant to throw endless flags for pass interference and defensive holding, even if defenses deserve them.

"They look at it and say, 'We may get called for one but not 10,'" said Mike Pereira, a former NFL vice president of officiating who is now a Fox analyst.

The Seattle Seahawks Defense Relies on a Brazen Tactic: Rampant Interference - WSJ

It's not just people perpetuating the "rumor", it's generally accepted by the major sports news outlets.

Secret Dance of Pass Interference - Flem File - ESPN

Kevin Gilbride: Seahawks have perfected art of pass interference - CBSSports.com

There are dozens more stories by smaller sports media sites and bloggers.

That's probably why people perpetuate the story.

Wow utah...

I don't know if I have seen someone put in their place so abruptly. I would be shocked if that person comments back at all. You probably scared him/her from our forums.

lumm0x · 07-22-2014, 03:14 PM

While it's a interesting write up and very true that as the playoff game wore on the Saints were gaining momentum and starting to be successful offensively and defensively against the Seahawks, the bottom line is they still beat us. And the first game they flat out slapped us out of the room.

You should not need 3 tries versus an opponent to start to figure them out and start executing your game plan against them. They were the better team both days. And yes, home field was a big advantage for them in each game. I fully agree, in the Dome they are lucky to beat us and the results of 2 games would likely be the exact opposite of those two.

But until we go in and beat them start to finish on any field we got nothing. And it comes across as pathetic to make excuses or blame refs.

Being one of the underdogs for almost EVER in the NFL, I can fully respect each franchise getting their 1 Super Bowl and experiencing that greatest day of a fan's life. Seattle has theirs now and I don't want to see them back. I want us to humiliate them next time. From the Coach/GM on down we are better and just need to prove it.

hennr · 07-23-2014, 09:49 AM

Ok sea chiks are strong team but not stronger if refs call game just normal saints win.First game saints surprised how refs call game 2nd payton had game plan knowing Refs would*%#@)_butvery hard to beat a team on road with!@#$%^&* REFS calling game.Reason 49ers game closer because 493rs kapernick an team also one of roggerrrrs team what poor refs to do so home team win close game.Saints true NFC champs/

Marlboro Man · 07-24-2014, 02:02 PM

This is exactly how I feel. But beating Seattle in the Dome isn't good enough. I want to crush them at the Link.

Jack Vegas · 07-24-2014, 02:10 PM

I just want another Super Bowl. I don't care if we beat Seattle at home to get there, on the road, or if we don't play them at all. I don't care if all the other NFC team planes crash and we're the only team left to go to the Super Bowl. just wanna win the damn thing.

07-20-2014, 08:08 AM	#41
hennr 100th Post Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 262	Re: Revisiting Seattle: When the Saints Nearly Broke the Legion of Boom also sea chicks QB was the golden boy last year.If the saints did what sea chiks did say from 20 yard line Refs throw about 6 to 7 flags put ball on one yard line.Point was only a loop hole for a few teams but the one with a wink an nod was sea hicks champs shame on them.Yes refs could have broke up B sht they were allowed to do think back how they did 3 flags in a row on Drew trying to draw other team off side an Drew was within letter of rules he did it the 3rd time because he was so pissed at REFS.REFs need to be under a independent body of reps one for each of the 32 teams.
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07-20-2014, 01:03 PM	#42
Audiotom 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,094 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Revisiting Seattle: When the Saints Nearly Broke the Legion of Boom The sad part is its not just Seattle and if its cracked down on Seattle will act like they are being singled out Note L Keuchly mugging Jimmy Graham while in the air Not only no flag, no response from the broadcasters and no second showing of the obvios slow mo replay Talib mugging Graham Patriots/Pathers last play An obvious flag was thrown then the head ref with no angle on the play had it picked up I am amazed they only throw a flag or two a game on the secondary Offensive holding could be every play And also at times the most tcky tacky touch is called holding to stop a drive You shouldn't have to compete against the other team and the zebras Not to be a conspiracy theorists but Goddell in no way wanted the Saints winning it

07-22-2014, 07:50 AM	#43
hennr 100th Post Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 262	Re: Revisiting Seattle: When the Saints Nearly Broke the Legion of Boom Reason Jimmy just had his big payday is because he is hard to defend if the other team is forced to play by rules.When Michael jordan was at top of his game what if zebras let other team mugg him.First few game in 2013 refs were fair an saints unstopable so to keep them from home field edge to me there was a wink an nod on rules change when teams played saints.Now sea chicks wre allowed to get by with on the field murder all year.
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07-22-2014, 02:46 PM	#44
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Revisiting Seattle: When the Saints Nearly Broke the Legion of Boom Originally Posted by Utah_Saint It's not going to be a long time. The NFL rules committee announced they were going to crack down on defensive holding, illegal contact and pass interference this season. Mike Pereira made that tweet about the hawks not being looked at, when he was reporting on the rules committee meetings. There was no implication that the Seahawks were clean only that none of he examples given during the meeting were of the Seahawks. Is NFL planning to get tighter on defensive holding and illegal contact? \| Seahawks Blog \| Seattle Times In fact Mike Pereira agrees the Seahawks do hold and get away with it. The Seattle Seahawks—the favorites to make the Super Bowl out of the NFC—employ an exasperating defensive game plan: They blitz rarely and drop an army of defenders into pass coverage. And those defenders mug, obstruct and foul opposing receivers on practically every play. Quietly, the Seahawks have achieved a 13-3 record and home-field advantage throughout the NFC playoffs by exploiting a loophole: NFL referees are reluctant to throw endless flags for pass interference and defensive holding, even if defenses deserve them. "They look at it and say, 'We may get called for one but not 10,'" said Mike Pereira, a former NFL vice president of officiating who is now a Fox analyst. The Seattle Seahawks Defense Relies on a Brazen Tactic: Rampant Interference - WSJ It's not just people perpetuating the "rumor", it's generally accepted by the major sports news outlets. Secret Dance of Pass Interference - Flem File - ESPN Kevin Gilbride: Seahawks have perfected art of pass interference - CBSSports.com There are dozens more stories by smaller sports media sites and bloggers. That's probably why people perpetuate the story. Wow utah... I don't know if I have seen someone put in their place so abruptly. I would be shocked if that person comments back at all. You probably scared him/her from our forums. Utah_Saint likes this.

07-22-2014, 03:14 PM	#45
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Re: Revisiting Seattle: When the Saints Nearly Broke the Legion of Boom While it's a interesting write up and very true that as the playoff game wore on the Saints were gaining momentum and starting to be successful offensively and defensively against the Seahawks, the bottom line is they still beat us. And the first game they flat out slapped us out of the room. You should not need 3 tries versus an opponent to start to figure them out and start executing your game plan against them. They were the better team both days. And yes, home field was a big advantage for them in each game. I fully agree, in the Dome they are lucky to beat us and the results of 2 games would likely be the exact opposite of those two. But until we go in and beat them start to finish on any field we got nothing. And it comes across as pathetic to make excuses or blame refs. Being one of the underdogs for almost EVER in the NFL, I can fully respect each franchise getting their 1 Super Bowl and experiencing that greatest day of a fan's life. Seattle has theirs now and I don't want to see them back. I want us to humiliate them next time. From the Coach/GM on down we are better and just need to prove it.

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07-23-2014, 09:49 AM	#46
hennr 100th Post Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 262	Re: Revisiting Seattle: When the Saints Nearly Broke the Legion of Boom Ok sea chiks are strong team but not stronger if refs call game just normal saints win.First game saints surprised how refs call game 2nd payton had game plan knowing Refs would%#@)_butvery hard to beat a team on road with!@#$%^& REFS calling game.Reason 49ers game closer because 493rs kapernick an team also one of roggerrrrs team what poor refs to do so home team win close game.Saints true NFC champs/
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07-24-2014, 02:02 PM	#47
Marlboro Man 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,469	Re: Revisiting Seattle: When the Saints Nearly Broke the Legion of Boom This is exactly how I feel. But beating Seattle in the Dome isn't good enough. I want to crush them at the Link.

07-24-2014, 02:10 PM	#48
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Revisiting Seattle: When the Saints Nearly Broke the Legion of Boom I just want another Super Bowl. I don't care if we beat Seattle at home to get there, on the road, or if we don't play them at all. I don't care if all the other NFC team planes crash and we're the only team left to go to the Super Bowl. just wanna win the damn thing.
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