Media Agenda???

Tobias-Reiper · 12-15-2004, 03:35 PM

yeah.. you are right... there are 2 Brooks agendas:

1.- The \"Brooks sucks and is all his fault we are losing\" agenda...
2.- The \"Brooks wins games by himself , but when we lose, is not Brooks\' fault\" agenda...

..it\'s all about perspective...

JKool · 12-15-2004, 03:47 PM

4ss,

We need TWO LBs, a DT, a CB, an OT (maybe two), and a Guard (and probably a Safety). That\'s a tall order.

Otherwise, I think I agree with you.

johnnythesaint · 12-15-2004, 04:22 PM

Mr. Kool I do believe that your post is nonsense, exactly what do the missing positions on our team have to do with this thread? are you hittin\' the pipe? Just kidding, I think you meant to put that in the all I want for Christmas thread

FrenzyFan · 12-15-2004, 05:07 PM

I, for one, am extremely impressed with those who authored the anti-Brooks agenda. Those guys are amazing! Though their viewpoint is so obviously skewed by their unreasoning and unfounded hatred of all things Brooks, and considering Brooks\' outstanding play in his stellar career with the Saints, somehow they\'ve made their agenda commonly accepted as fact.

They\'ve managed to infect most of the regular attendees to all Saints home games, thus the incessant boo-ing when Brooks plays. They\'ve managed to influence professional sports writers, commentators, and former super bowl QBs to say negative things about Brooks, some even unjustly calling Brooks: \"The most over-rated NFL player.\" They\'ve managed to brain-wash many of the posters on this board (and others). It\'s simply staggering to consider how pervasive their obvious untruths and crooked perceptions have become throughout NFL and Saints fan-dom.

For my part, I plan to seek out those people on this board who originated these lies about Brooks. I want them on my advertising team. No matter what product I put out, with their powerful influence on seemingly the entire world, I will be wealthy beyond the dreams of avarice in no time.

/sarcasm off

saintswhodi · 12-15-2004, 05:29 PM

Nice Frenzy. :thumbsup:

CHACHING · 12-15-2004, 05:39 PM

Dang Frenzy....tell em why you mad son..............but I agree with you...........

mutineer10 · 12-15-2004, 07:14 PM

yeah.. you are right... there are 2 Brooks agendas:

1.- The \"Brooks sucks and is all his fault we are losing\" agenda...
2.- The \"Brooks wins games by himself , but when we lose, is not Brooks\' fault\" agenda...

..it\'s all about perspective...

Not to ruffle your feathers, TR, but I think you\'ve got about 9 pages of heavy reading to do...

If we could make the Brooks issue that simple, I don\'t think we could\'ve argued about him as long as we have. Personally, I\'m enlisting with the \"get rid of him, we need a new identity\" branch of the forces. Time for a little offensive overhaul, and we might as well start with him (and McCarthy, hopefully).

GumboBC · 12-16-2004, 09:03 AM

I see there\'s a nice little discussion going on here...

Ok, let me throw the word \"agenda\" out of the game here.

There are some fans who think Brooks just doesn\'t have what it takes to be the QB. That\'s fine. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs.

I think there\'s little doubt he could play better. He\'s made a few bone-headed decisions this year that were just plain stupid.

However, I\'ve heard folks blame Brooks for the terrible offensive line play. Are you guys kidding me? First, I can see defensive linemen running through and over our guys. Second, Brooks athletcism avoids more sacks than any pressure he might run towards. Third.. Do you also blame Deuce for their terrible run blocking? Maybe Deuce just isn\'t hitting the hole....

Also, there are some who blame Brooks, in part, for the terrible play of the defense. The 32nd ranked defense. The Dolphins denfense sure is playing well despite their horrible offense.

Listen folks, in the famous word of Bill Parcells....YOU ARE WHAT YOU ARE!!

We are pathetic on the O-line.
We are pathetic on Defense.
We have bad coaching.
Deuce is struggling some but it\'s not all his fault.
And Brooks is struggling but it\'s a long way from being all his fault.

There ain\'t no \'I\' in team and it\'s not always the QB\'s fault.

WhoDat predicted Brooks to go to the probowl and the Saints to win the division. Hmmm...

WhoDat also predicited the Bucs defense would be terrible this year. I think they\'re ranked third, WhoDat.

Merry Christmas to ya all..... Ho...Ho...Ho...... Merry Christmas

dberce1 · 12-16-2004, 09:49 AM

However, I\'ve heard folks blame Brooks for the terrible offensive line play. Are you guys kidding me?

I\'ll agree with Billy on that one. How is Aaron supposed to find an open receiver, when he has 1.5 seconds to make a decision. NO Qb in the league would excel behind that line, except Delhomme, who would simply toss the ball up for grabs, and get a 70yard TD out of it. And I hate Delhomme, but he\'s just that damn lucky.

saintswhodi · 12-16-2004, 10:13 AM

I\'ll agree with Billy on that one. How is Aaron supposed to find an open receiver, when he has 1.5 seconds to make a decision. NO Qb in the league would excel behind that line, except Delhomme, who would simply toss the ball up for grabs, and get a 70yard TD out of it. And I hate Delhomme, but he\'s just that damn lucky.

I\'ll somewhat disagree with you guys on that one. How is a guy supposed to block for a qb who seems to be a beat slower backing out after the snap? This was noticed by the majority of the Dallas fans I sat with. Why does he take so long to get from under center they asked me. good question was all I could say. No doubt the o-line has played far below standard, but that has to have a small bearing.

12-15-2004, 03:35 PM	#11
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Media Agenda??? yeah.. you are right... there are 2 Brooks agendas: 1.- The \"Brooks sucks and is all his fault we are losing\" agenda... 2.- The \"Brooks wins games by himself , but when we lose, is not Brooks\' fault\" agenda... ..it\'s all about perspective...

12-15-2004, 03:47 PM	#12
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	Media Agenda??? 4ss, We need TWO LBs, a DT, a CB, an OT (maybe two), and a Guard (and probably a Safety). That\'s a tall order. Otherwise, I think I agree with you.

12-15-2004, 04:22 PM	#13
johnnythesaint 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 125	Media Agenda??? Mr. Kool I do believe that your post is nonsense, exactly what do the missing positions on our team have to do with this thread? are you hittin\' the pipe? Just kidding, I think you meant to put that in the all I want for Christmas thread
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12-15-2004, 05:07 PM	#14
FrenzyFan 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 406	Media Agenda??? I, for one, am extremely impressed with those who authored the anti-Brooks agenda. Those guys are amazing! Though their viewpoint is so obviously skewed by their unreasoning and unfounded hatred of all things Brooks, and considering Brooks\' outstanding play in his stellar career with the Saints, somehow they\'ve made their agenda commonly accepted as fact. They\'ve managed to infect most of the regular attendees to all Saints home games, thus the incessant boo-ing when Brooks plays. They\'ve managed to influence professional sports writers, commentators, and former super bowl QBs to say negative things about Brooks, some even unjustly calling Brooks: \"The most over-rated NFL player.\" They\'ve managed to brain-wash many of the posters on this board (and others). It\'s simply staggering to consider how pervasive their obvious untruths and crooked perceptions have become throughout NFL and Saints fan-dom. For my part, I plan to seek out those people on this board who originated these lies about Brooks. I want them on my advertising team. No matter what product I put out, with their powerful influence on seemingly the entire world, I will be wealthy beyond the dreams of avarice in no time. /sarcasm off
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12-15-2004, 05:39 PM	#16
CHACHING 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Golden State Posts: 830	Media Agenda??? Dang Frenzy....tell em why you mad son..............but I agree with you...........

12-15-2004, 07:14 PM	#17
mutineer10 Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 1,739	Media Agenda??? yeah.. you are right... there are 2 Brooks agendas: 1.- The \"Brooks sucks and is all his fault we are losing\" agenda... 2.- The \"Brooks wins games by himself , but when we lose, is not Brooks\' fault\" agenda... ..it\'s all about perspective... Not to ruffle your feathers, TR, but I think you\'ve got about 9 pages of heavy reading to do... If we could make the Brooks issue that simple, I don\'t think we could\'ve argued about him as long as we have. Personally, I\'m enlisting with the \"get rid of him, we need a new identity\" branch of the forces. Time for a little offensive overhaul, and we might as well start with him (and McCarthy, hopefully).

12-16-2004, 09:03 AM	#18
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Media Agenda??? I see there\'s a nice little discussion going on here... Ok, let me throw the word \"agenda\" out of the game here. There are some fans who think Brooks just doesn\'t have what it takes to be the QB. That\'s fine. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs. I think there\'s little doubt he could play better. He\'s made a few bone-headed decisions this year that were just plain stupid. However, I\'ve heard folks blame Brooks for the terrible offensive line play. Are you guys kidding me? First, I can see defensive linemen running through and over our guys. Second, Brooks athletcism avoids more sacks than any pressure he might run towards. Third.. Do you also blame Deuce for their terrible run blocking? Maybe Deuce just isn\'t hitting the hole.... Also, there are some who blame Brooks, in part, for the terrible play of the defense. The 32nd ranked defense. The Dolphins denfense sure is playing well despite their horrible offense. Listen folks, in the famous word of Bill Parcells....YOU ARE WHAT YOU ARE!! We are pathetic on the O-line. We are pathetic on Defense. We have bad coaching. Deuce is struggling some but it\'s not all his fault. And Brooks is struggling but it\'s a long way from being all his fault. There ain\'t no \'I\' in team and it\'s not always the QB\'s fault. WhoDat predicted Brooks to go to the probowl and the Saints to win the division. Hmmm... WhoDat also predicited the Bucs defense would be terrible this year. I think they\'re ranked third, WhoDat. Merry Christmas to ya all..... Ho...Ho...Ho...... Merry Christmas
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12-16-2004, 09:49 AM	#19
dberce1 Chuck Liddells Right Hand Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Prairieville, Louisiana Posts: 1,227	Media Agenda??? However, I\'ve heard folks blame Brooks for the terrible offensive line play. Are you guys kidding me? I\'ll agree with Billy on that one. How is Aaron supposed to find an open receiver, when he has 1.5 seconds to make a decision. NO Qb in the league would excel behind that line, except Delhomme, who would simply toss the ball up for grabs, and get a 70yard TD out of it. And I hate Delhomme, but he\'s just that damn lucky.

12-16-2004, 10:13 AM	#20
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Media Agenda??? I\'ll agree with Billy on that one. How is Aaron supposed to find an open receiver, when he has 1.5 seconds to make a decision. NO Qb in the league would excel behind that line, except Delhomme, who would simply toss the ball up for grabs, and get a 70yard TD out of it. And I hate Delhomme, but he\'s just that damn lucky. I\'ll somewhat disagree with you guys on that one. How is a guy supposed to block for a qb who seems to be a beat slower backing out after the snap? This was noticed by the majority of the Dallas fans I sat with. Why does he take so long to get from under center they asked me. good question was all I could say. No doubt the o-line has played far below standard, but that has to have a small bearing.