Its not THAT bad

blackangold · 09-07-2014, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

D-backfields are similar to o-lines. They have to gel. Remember how long it took for out offensive line to gel last season? The Dallas game.

Look at how much wholesale change has happened to out defensive secondary, it will take a bit of time, and it helps a whole frikken lot when they have tape on a team to watch while preparing.

It may not happen over night, but it will.

I agree...

However, our D-line was a strength last year and right now they look weak.

Beyond that I have to question some of the schemes. Having your safeties play 40 yds off against a west-coast offense??? Additionally the CBs were playing 10-15 yds off most of the game. If we don't press the WR at the line it's going to be a long day. Last year we played almost nothing but press coverage and it worked well.

The Dude · 09-07-2014, 07:48 PM

I said in preseason it was foolish to believe that our D would pick up where it left off last year, even with the additions of Byrd and other upgrades. Going from worst ever in the history of the NFL to 4th overall is insane. A good defense is not built that fast. We will still have a much better defense than year before last, probable middle of the pact. With the way our offense played our defense doesn't need to be top 5.
They had a bad game. Better now than in the playoffs. We will be fine and will be in the playoffs again. Like I said the Falcons are a very good offensive team. Ryan and the defense are under the spotlight now and know they aren't invincible like some thought in the pre season. Like Oak said, they need time to learn how to play together. They will gel.

WHODATINCA · 09-07-2014, 08:01 PM

Guess someone else in this house is going to wear the Eeyore hat. Dude has traded it in.

hagan714 · 09-07-2014, 08:44 PM

well now that reality set in and all those pre season press clipping can be put under the puppy. we might be ok.

week one on the road in the NFC south is never easy despite anything people may say. but boy oh boy the defense needs to go back to basics ... like tackling. and Ryan needs to do some tweaking. lets see what he can do.

players are going to humble in tape sessions and that should get their heads back on straight. I hope they come out with an attitude like they had last year. saving face is a great motivation tool. because this week non of them looked like they had a clue. coaches and player

saintsfan403 · 09-07-2014, 08:51 PM

I just don't get why some posters are folding up shop already. For f*ck sakes, even after giving up 500 yards, we had to fumble in overtime to lose (I'm pretty confident that Brees and co would have put up 6 on that drive had that not happened). Yeah, it sucks but this season is far from over (don't worry, I'll save you all a seat on the bandwagon after week 2).
And don't kid yourself, Greer or Bailey are in no way an upgrade over what we have. Don't be stupid.

RailBoss · 09-07-2014, 08:53 PM

Atlanta has some weapons this season, a healthy Jackson and Hester.
Arthur spent some of your Home Depot money wisely.

CheramieIII · 09-07-2014, 08:56 PM

The Falcons have always been our biggest rivalry. Even when we beat them it's only decided by an average of 6 points. It was their house and they got lucky a lot today. If we would've stuck the first 2 drives in the end zone game over at 21-0

|Mitch| · 09-07-2014, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Beyond that I have to question some of the schemes. Having your safeties play 40 yds off against a west-coast offense???

You need to keep your day job and leave the coaching to the coaches. There is nothing "west coast" about the Falcons. They have a vertical offense, just like we do.

The Dude · 09-07-2014, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

You need to keep your day job and leave the coaching to the coaches. There is nothing "west coast" about the Falcons. They have a vertical offense, just like we do.

Hahahahahaha

saintsfan403 · 09-07-2014, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

You need to keep your day job and leave the coaching to the coaches. There is nothing "west coast" about the Falcons. They have a vertical offense, just like we do.

I have to agree with him, even our corners were lining up deeper than usual. I just don't think that scheme works for us, we fare better letting our DBs play aggressive man while we blitz.

09-07-2014, 07:35 PM	#11
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Its not THAT bad Originally Posted by TheOak D-backfields are similar to o-lines. They have to gel. Remember how long it took for out offensive line to gel last season? The Dallas game. Look at how much wholesale change has happened to out defensive secondary, it will take a bit of time, and it helps a whole frikken lot when they have tape on a team to watch while preparing. It may not happen over night, but it will. I agree... However, our D-line was a strength last year and right now they look weak. Beyond that I have to question some of the schemes. Having your safeties play 40 yds off against a west-coast offense??? Additionally the CBs were playing 10-15 yds off most of the game. If we don't press the WR at the line it's going to be a long day. Last year we played almost nothing but press coverage and it worked well. Danno, Saintaintso, saintsfan403 and 1 others like this.

09-07-2014, 07:48 PM	#12
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Its not THAT bad I said in preseason it was foolish to believe that our D would pick up where it left off last year, even with the additions of Byrd and other upgrades. Going from worst ever in the history of the NFL to 4th overall is insane. A good defense is not built that fast. We will still have a much better defense than year before last, probable middle of the pact. With the way our offense played our defense doesn't need to be top 5. They had a bad game. Better now than in the playoffs. We will be fine and will be in the playoffs again. Like I said the Falcons are a very good offensive team. Ryan and the defense are under the spotlight now and know they aren't invincible like some thought in the pre season. Like Oak said, they need time to learn how to play together. They will gel.
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09-07-2014, 08:01 PM	#13
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: Its not THAT bad Guess someone else in this house is going to wear the Eeyore hat. Dude has traded it in. saintsfan403 likes this.

09-07-2014, 08:44 PM	#14
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Its not THAT bad well now that reality set in and all those pre season press clipping can be put under the puppy. we might be ok. week one on the road in the NFC south is never easy despite anything people may say. but boy oh boy the defense needs to go back to basics ... like tackling. and Ryan needs to do some tweaking. lets see what he can do. players are going to humble in tape sessions and that should get their heads back on straight. I hope they come out with an attitude like they had last year. saving face is a great motivation tool. because this week non of them looked like they had a clue. coaches and player
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09-07-2014, 08:51 PM	#15
saintsfan403 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: WHO DAT NATION Posts: 2,261	Re: Its not THAT bad I just don't get why some posters are folding up shop already. For f*ck sakes, even after giving up 500 yards, we had to fumble in overtime to lose (I'm pretty confident that Brees and co would have put up 6 on that drive had that not happened). Yeah, it sucks but this season is far from over (don't worry, I'll save you all a seat on the bandwagon after week 2). And don't kid yourself, Greer or Bailey are in no way an upgrade over what we have. Don't be stupid. Utah_Saint likes this.

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RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Its not THAT bad Atlanta has some weapons this season, a healthy Jackson and Hester. Arthur spent some of your Home Depot money wisely.

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CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Its not THAT bad The Falcons have always been our biggest rivalry. Even when we beat them it's only decided by an average of 6 points. It was their house and they got lucky a lot today. If we would've stuck the first 2 drives in the end zone game over at 21-0 Saintaintso and saintsfan403 like this.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Its not THAT bad Originally Posted by blackangold Beyond that I have to question some of the schemes. Having your safeties play 40 yds off against a west-coast offense??? You need to keep your day job and leave the coaching to the coaches. There is nothing "west coast" about the Falcons. They have a vertical offense, just like we do.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Its not THAT bad Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| You need to keep your day job and leave the coaching to the coaches. There is nothing "west coast" about the Falcons. They have a vertical offense, just like we do. Hahahahahaha
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saintsfan403 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: WHO DAT NATION Posts: 2,261	Re: Its not THAT bad Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| You need to keep your day job and leave the coaching to the coaches. There is nothing "west coast" about the Falcons. They have a vertical offense, just like we do. I have to agree with him, even our corners were lining up deeper than usual. I just don't think that scheme works for us, we fare better letting our DBs play aggressive man while we blitz. blackangold likes this.

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