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SaintsBro · 09-22-2014, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by Audiotom

I was at the game yesterday and there were way too many open guys and the Minnesota drives ended on miscue throws not our defenders contesting the ball

it almost seems like they stop the receiver once he catches the ball, not before

Exactly right. There were quite a few defensive plays yesterday that were basically 100% pure Minnesota screw ups, and the result of nothing special by the Saints defense at all. Came home from the game and compared this to *cough* Seattle on TV, where guys are literally draped around the receivers neck as the ball arrives, hanging off them, leading to tipped balls, broken passes, instant tackles, and bunches of interceptions. Even the lowly Steelers in the night game, were attacking both the QB and receivers, batting at them, stripping the ball, contesting throws, contesting catches, being aggressive. It's like the Saints defense are playing by an entirely different set of rules than the other teams around the league -- they keep leaving these huge massive cushions and wide open green spaces between them and the receivers. Very passive. And Byrd hanging out 40 yards away from anybody.

I mean the rules are basically now, as long as you sorta turn your head for locating the ball, you can push the guy, or grab jersey, or bump, or clothesline him with your freaking elbow, or pretty much do almost whatever you want to do to the receiver....Seems like the Saints have not really gotten the memo on that yet.

WHODATINCA · 09-22-2014, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by Audiotom

I was at the game yesterday and there were way too many open guys and the Minnesota drives ended on miscue throws not our defenders contesting the ball

it almost seems like they stop the receiver once he catches the ball, not before

If we lose in Dallas, this will be the reason. This win deserves about a 5 second celebration -- and not Jimmy-style.

There were way too many missed tackles in this game too.

QBREES9 · 09-22-2014, 02:46 PM

This was not a great test for our Defense. Lest see next week what they bring to the table. Tony ROMO!!!!!!!!

nola_swammi · 09-22-2014, 03:30 PM

I wonder if a trade for cary williams is in place,if so how will saint's nation accept him?

jnormand · 09-22-2014, 03:56 PM

Um....the guy that was *****ing to the media about how his coach is making them "practice too hard"? The drama would be awful. He'd probably whine that Sean or Rob yelled at him.

What a baby.

Rugby Saint II · 09-22-2014, 06:58 PM

Apparently our secondary doesn't have any talent..............

Lord_Saint83 · 09-22-2014, 07:07 PM

I agree with K Major. I wanted the saints to draft him thats another Lavonte David. Once in a generation speed and solid coverage skills.

Barry from MS · 09-22-2014, 09:52 PM

...lacks ball skills & instincts. Hence ZERO int's in last 5 games (that includes playoffs) with & without Harper and Jenkins.

dizzle88 · 09-23-2014, 02:36 PM

You see other teams linebackers getting interceptions, maybe just 1 or 2

The last interception one of our linebackers got was in 2010, Scott shanle picked off a tipped matt ryan pass.

Utah_Saint · 09-23-2014, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

You see other teams linebackers getting interceptions, maybe just 1 or 2

The last interception one of our linebackers got was in 2010, Scott shanle picked off a tipped matt ryan pass.

Will Herring had an INT against Miami last season
Vilma had one against Carolina in 2012
Herring got one against the Giants and Shanley had one against the falcons (probably the one your thinking of) in 2011

09-22-2014, 02:42 PM	#1
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: secondary Originally Posted by Audiotom I was at the game yesterday and there were way too many open guys and the Minnesota drives ended on miscue throws not our defenders contesting the ball it almost seems like they stop the receiver once he catches the ball, not before Exactly right. There were quite a few defensive plays yesterday that were basically 100% pure Minnesota screw ups, and the result of nothing special by the Saints defense at all. Came home from the game and compared this to cough Seattle on TV, where guys are literally draped around the receivers neck as the ball arrives, hanging off them, leading to tipped balls, broken passes, instant tackles, and bunches of interceptions. Even the lowly Steelers in the night game, were attacking both the QB and receivers, batting at them, stripping the ball, contesting throws, contesting catches, being aggressive. It's like the Saints defense are playing by an entirely different set of rules than the other teams around the league -- they keep leaving these huge massive cushions and wide open green spaces between them and the receivers. Very passive. And Byrd hanging out 40 yards away from anybody. I mean the rules are basically now, as long as you sorta turn your head for locating the ball, you can push the guy, or grab jersey, or bump, or clothesline him with your freaking elbow, or pretty much do almost whatever you want to do to the receiver....Seems like the Saints have not really gotten the memo on that yet. hagan714 likes this.

09-22-2014, 05:08 PM	#2
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: secondary Originally Posted by Audiotom I was at the game yesterday and there were way too many open guys and the Minnesota drives ended on miscue throws not our defenders contesting the ball it almost seems like they stop the receiver once he catches the ball, not before If we lose in Dallas, this will be the reason. This win deserves about a 5 second celebration -- and not Jimmy-style. There were way too many missed tackles in this game too.

09-22-2014, 02:46 PM	#3
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,989	Re: secondary This was not a great test for our Defense. Lest see next week what they bring to the table. Tony ROMO!!!!!!!!

09-22-2014, 03:30 PM	#4
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: secondary I wonder if a trade for cary williams is in place,if so how will saint's nation accept him?

09-22-2014, 03:56 PM	#5
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,735	Re: secondary Um....the guy that was *****ing to the media about how his coach is making them "practice too hard"? The drama would be awful. He'd probably whine that Sean or Rob yelled at him. What a baby.

09-22-2014, 06:58 PM	#6
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,117	Re: secondary Apparently our secondary doesn't have any talent..............

09-22-2014, 07:07 PM	#7
Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: secondary I agree with K Major. I wanted the saints to draft him thats another Lavonte David. Once in a generation speed and solid coverage skills.

09-22-2014, 09:52 PM	#8
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: secondary ...lacks ball skills & instincts. Hence ZERO int's in last 5 games (that includes playoffs) with & without Harper and Jenkins.

09-23-2014, 02:36 PM	#9
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: secondary You see other teams linebackers getting interceptions, maybe just 1 or 2 The last interception one of our linebackers got was in 2010, Scott shanle picked off a tipped matt ryan pass. SaintsBro likes this.

09-23-2014, 02:48 PM	#10
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: secondary Originally Posted by dizzle88 You see other teams linebackers getting interceptions, maybe just 1 or 2 The last interception one of our linebackers got was in 2010, Scott shanle picked off a tipped matt ryan pass. Will Herring had an INT against Miami last season Vilma had one against Carolina in 2012 Herring got one against the Giants and Shanley had one against the falcons (probably the one your thinking of) in 2011 dizzle88 likes this.

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