WTH is going on, WhoDats?!?!

SloMotion · 09-30-2014, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by billyt81

Man Reggie Bush might run for 200yds and I don't even wanna think about Vaccarro trying to cover him.

I've been kinda' anticipating seeing how Vaccarro would fare against Calvin, myself ... but signing Golden Tate has taken some of the spotlight off of Megatron ... that guy (Tate) is "Mr. Yards-after-the-Catch" and it's easy to see how he was Seattle's most productive (yds) receiver ... if I'm not mistaken,

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SaintsBro · 09-30-2014, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by westbankdaze

I believe something internal is going on. I feel like our team is on strike or some kind of passive aggression towards management.

I have thought this type of thing, too. In fact I wonder if there may actually be two or three smaller separate things going on internally right now. John Jenkins is "healthy" but doesn't make the trip?? Why so few "rainbow" deep shots from Brees anymore, these days? And where the heck is Pierre Thomas?

To me this game was eerily reminiscent of the Saints/Broncos game in 2012, where fan hopes were high and the wheels totally fell off, in the middle of the road, for all to see.

Unfortunately "something internal is wrong with the team" is kinda what I'm smelling. There is clearly a disconnect between what is happening inside the Saints locker room/coaching bubble, and what is happening out on the field. Not sure if it's Payton-related, Ryan-related, or something else.

westbankdaze · 09-30-2014, 01:35 PM

Colston and jimmy almost seem like they are intentionally not catching passes. Colston's no targets a couple of weeks ago and his demeanor seem to also be passive aggressive. I really think there is locker room mutiny going on.

SaintFanQ · 09-30-2014, 02:57 PM

Good point about Pierre Thomas!

It seems like he's vanished without trace!

I just don't get it!

Utah_Saint · 09-30-2014, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by billyt81

Yea I totally agree and posted something real similar last night except I sort of blamed it all on JG.(unfair of course but). He was very outspoken about disliking the release of Sproles and Vilma. Plus he's still mad at Brees because after Brees signed his huge deal he went on ESPN and campaigned for the Saints to be able to pay JG as a TE. Then he said if we lost Graham because we couldn't sign him, we'd be fine without him.

Every bit of that is made up.

WHODATINCA · 10-01-2014, 06:55 AM

It's bad, Slo. Somebody needs to do some head crackin' round here, cause da s**t sho' nuff hit da fan now. And, your Lions have me WORRIED.

SloMotion · 10-01-2014, 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by WHODATINCA

It's bad, Slo. Somebody needs to do some head crackin' round here, cause da s**t sho' nuff hit da fan now. And, your Lions have me WORRIED.

Nah, they've started fast outta' the gate before & in recent history only to go something like 1-7/2-6 the second half of their schedule ... Wk #7 is when they start playing the good teams & we'll see if they're for real then,

... it makes for good conversation, but I gotta' think by the time Wk#7 rolls around, the Saints'll be good & tired of what's been going on thus far and be using the Lions game to "make a statement".

saintsfan1976 · 10-01-2014, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by westbankdaze

I believe something internal is going on. I feel like our team is on strike or some kind of passive aggression towards management. Maybe it's time for payton to go.

Originally Posted by Halo

Yeah probably the ones who have played on this team with Sean Payton for years and contributed to the organization at a decent rate, then Graham and Byrd come in with monster contracts and eat up all the money so they can't get help at positions needed to return to the SuperBowl. Good fit or not, winning be damned, we're stuck with some people.

Since you both called it out, I'll share what I know. I have an inside-the-organization source (legit) who says there are 2-3 factions in the locker room.

PT is disgruntled as hell about being buried on the depth chart and "shopped around" twice.

Jimmy and Junior have been total d i c k s since their payday. Players are not mad they got paid but in how they're treating everyone else.

So some are pissed some are like "f-it, I'm getting mine" but overall Payton is losing the respect of a lot of players. Quickly.

This should explain the canned answers we're hearing from players and coaches alike.

Buckle up Who Dats, it could be a long season if we lose to TB.

Danno · 10-01-2014, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx

now it wasnt absurd, you and others just didnt realize what i was saying until that a$$ whoopin we took from the cowgirls. What i said all this time is with our offense in "cruical" times of the game they seem stagnant. Not able to move the ball, not getting first down, not protecting drew, drew throwing redzone int's and pick 6's, getting the ball with 7 mins left in a game where you only have a one point lead and not creating a drive to what could have possibly done in the browns etc etc is what i said all along. so that's why i said the offense is equally responsible for thos losses as well as our "cant stop a damn soul" defense.

Thats still absurd. If our defense was even close to at least average our offense would have a 3 score lead in the 4th and we wouldn't have to worry about a bottom feeder going 96 yards with 50 seconds left to beat us on a last second FG.

Partly responsible I could kinda buy, but even thats a pretty hard sell. Equally responsible is exactly what I said it was, absurd. We gave up 600 yards to the Falcons and our offense scored 37 points.

On what planet does that mean the offense and defense are equally to blame?

jnormand · 10-01-2014, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Since you both called it out, I'll share what I know. I have an inside-the-organization source (legit) who says there are 2-3 factions in the locker room.

PT is disgruntled as hell about being buried on the depth chart and "shopped around" twice.

Jimmy and Junior have been total d i c k s since their payday. Players are not mad they got paid but in how they're treating everyone else.

So some are pissed some are like "f-it, I'm getting mine" but overall Payton is losing the respect of a lot of players. Quickly.

This should explain the canned answers we're hearing from players and coaches alike.

Buckle up Who Dats, it could be a long season if we lose to TB.

That's some scary dramatic **** there. If Payton loses the locker room, the season is already over.

09-30-2014, 09:35 AM	#21
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: WTH is going on, WhoDats?!?! Originally Posted by billyt81 Man Reggie Bush might run for 200yds and I don't even wanna think about Vaccarro trying to cover him. I've been kinda' anticipating seeing how Vaccarro would fare against Calvin, myself ... but signing Golden Tate has taken some of the spotlight off of Megatron ... that guy (Tate) is "Mr. Yards-after-the-Catch" and it's easy to see how he was Seattle's most productive (yds) receiver ... if I'm not mistaken, .

09-30-2014, 10:36 AM	#22
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: WTH is going on, WhoDats?!?! Originally Posted by westbankdaze I believe something internal is going on. I feel like our team is on strike or some kind of passive aggression towards management. I have thought this type of thing, too. In fact I wonder if there may actually be two or three smaller separate things going on internally right now. John Jenkins is "healthy" but doesn't make the trip?? Why so few "rainbow" deep shots from Brees anymore, these days? And where the heck is Pierre Thomas? To me this game was eerily reminiscent of the Saints/Broncos game in 2012, where fan hopes were high and the wheels totally fell off, in the middle of the road, for all to see. Unfortunately "something internal is wrong with the team" is kinda what I'm smelling. There is clearly a disconnect between what is happening inside the Saints locker room/coaching bubble, and what is happening out on the field. Not sure if it's Payton-related, Ryan-related, or something else. SaintFanQ likes this.

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09-30-2014, 02:57 PM	#24
SaintFanQ Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Leicester, England Posts: 800	Re: WTH is going on, WhoDats?!?! Good point about Pierre Thomas! It seems like he's vanished without trace! I just don't get it!

09-30-2014, 07:54 PM	#25
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: WTH is going on, WhoDats?!?! Originally Posted by billyt81 Yea I totally agree and posted something real similar last night except I sort of blamed it all on JG.(unfair of course but). He was very outspoken about disliking the release of Sproles and Vilma. Plus he's still mad at Brees because after Brees signed his huge deal he went on ESPN and campaigned for the Saints to be able to pay JG as a TE. Then he said if we lost Graham because we couldn't sign him, we'd be fine without him. Every bit of that is made up.

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10-01-2014, 06:55 AM	#26
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: WTH is going on, WhoDats?!?! It's bad, Slo. Somebody needs to do some head crackin' round here, cause da s**t sho' nuff hit da fan now. And, your Lions have me WORRIED.

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SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: WTH is going on, WhoDats?!?! Originally Posted by WHODATINCA It's bad, Slo. Somebody needs to do some head crackin' round here, cause da s**t sho' nuff hit da fan now. And, your Lions have me WORRIED. Nah, they've started fast outta' the gate before & in recent history only to go something like 1-7/2-6 the second half of their schedule ... Wk #7 is when they start playing the good teams & we'll see if they're for real then, ... it makes for good conversation, but I gotta' think by the time Wk#7 rolls around, the Saints'll be good & tired of what's been going on thus far and be using the Lions game to "make a statement".

10-01-2014, 09:58 AM	#28
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,869 Blog Entries: 3	Re: WTH is going on, WhoDats?!?! Originally Posted by westbankdaze I believe something internal is going on. I feel like our team is on strike or some kind of passive aggression towards management. Maybe it's time for payton to go. Originally Posted by Halo Yeah probably the ones who have played on this team with Sean Payton for years and contributed to the organization at a decent rate, then Graham and Byrd come in with monster contracts and eat up all the money so they can't get help at positions needed to return to the SuperBowl. Good fit or not, winning be damned, we're stuck with some people. Since you both called it out, I'll share what I know. I have an inside-the-organization source (legit) who says there are 2-3 factions in the locker room. PT is disgruntled as hell about being buried on the depth chart and "shopped around" twice. Jimmy and Junior have been total d i c k s since their payday. Players are not mad they got paid but in how they're treating everyone else. So some are pissed some are like "f-it, I'm getting mine" but overall Payton is losing the respect of a lot of players. Quickly. This should explain the canned answers we're hearing from players and coaches alike. Buckle up Who Dats, it could be a long season if we lose to TB. Danno and billyt81 like this.

10-01-2014, 10:00 AM	#29
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,728	Re: WTH is going on, WhoDats?!?! Originally Posted by teddybarexxx now it wasnt absurd, you and others just didnt realize what i was saying until that a$$ whoopin we took from the cowgirls. What i said all this time is with our offense in "cruical" times of the game they seem stagnant. Not able to move the ball, not getting first down, not protecting drew, drew throwing redzone int's and pick 6's, getting the ball with 7 mins left in a game where you only have a one point lead and not creating a drive to what could have possibly done in the browns etc etc is what i said all along. so that's why i said the offense is equally responsible for thos losses as well as our "cant stop a damn soul" defense. Thats still absurd. If our defense was even close to at least average our offense would have a 3 score lead in the 4th and we wouldn't have to worry about a bottom feeder going 96 yards with 50 seconds left to beat us on a last second FG. Partly responsible I could kinda buy, but even thats a pretty hard sell. Equally responsible is exactly what I said it was, absurd. We gave up 600 yards to the Falcons and our offense scored 37 points. On what planet does that mean the offense and defense are equally to blame? \|Mitch\| likes this.

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jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,707	Re: WTH is going on, WhoDats?!?! Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Since you both called it out, I'll share what I know. I have an inside-the-organization source (legit) who says there are 2-3 factions in the locker room. PT is disgruntled as hell about being buried on the depth chart and "shopped around" twice. Jimmy and Junior have been total d i c k s since their payday. Players are not mad they got paid but in how they're treating everyone else. So some are pissed some are like "f-it, I'm getting mine" but overall Payton is losing the respect of a lot of players. Quickly. This should explain the canned answers we're hearing from players and coaches alike. Buckle up Who Dats, it could be a long season if we lose to TB. That's some scary dramatic **** there. If Payton loses the locker room, the season is already over. SloMotion likes this.

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