Saints' search for second starting cornerback failed from the start

blackangold · 10-23-2014, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

SJB doesn't need to see the field until we've A) locked a playoff berth or B) lost a playoff berth.

I'm also ok with him in dime coverage when we have a three TD lead with 2 minutes remaining.

I don't get why people are afraid for SJB to see the field. We can talk about who is better than who all we want, but only one thing matters that we see every Sunday; Robinson/White are awful and the verdict is still out on Dixon.

Robinson and White have played so poorly at times it may have been better if they never took the field.
"Corey White struggled, gave up eight of nine targets for 148, two touchdowns, and a perfect QB rating. Golden Tate accounted for five of those catches."

Barry from MS · 10-23-2014, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

I don't get why people are afraid for SJB to see the field. We can talk about who is better than who all we want, but only one thing matters that we see every Sunday; Robinson/White are awful and the verdict is still out on Dixon.

Robinson and White have played so poorly at times it may have been better if they never took the field.

I'm with ya, man. I want SJB to see the field. But how else can he get more playing time other than doing well in practice? Where or how else can he prove he belongs on the nickle & dime packages?

Or...hahaha...switch him back to WR.

halloween 65 · 10-23-2014, 10:12 PM

I would love to see SJB in a SS role, a big, athletic, fast guy, kind of like Chanceller is in Seattle, an enforcer.With Byrd at FS. Just my thought.

jeanpierre · 10-23-2014, 11:59 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

So even though he isn't ready and could cost us wins, the coaches should play him anyway because he's a 2nd round pick?

I'm not buying that at all.

No, you don't pick him with a second round pick if he's not ready to play the position...

|Mitch| · 10-24-2014, 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I would love to see SJB in a SS role, a big, athletic, fast guy, kind of like Chanceller is in Seattle, an enforcer.With Byrd at FS. Just my thought.

Then what do you do with Vacarro?

jnormand · 10-24-2014, 01:30 AM

I don't care who starts there. I just want someone who will step up. All of them thus far have been awful.

saintsfan1976 · 10-24-2014, 08:58 AM

Corey White is not a #2 CB. He's decent in nickel, where he should be.

When he moves to the #2 through injuries, he gets beat more than he wins.

What I'm hearing you guys say is you're ready to throw a RAW rookie in as our starting #2 CB.

Sorry, that's crazy.

Like I said before, if Greer doesn't break his leg off we're set and have a dominant secondary. What we have today was never the plan.

dizzle88 · 10-24-2014, 09:20 AM

We need to seriously address CB, LB and O line in the draft/free agency

Maybe even another pass rusher

saintsfan1976 · 10-24-2014, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

We need to seriously address CB, LB and O line in the draft/free agency

Maybe even another pass rusher

I'm starting to agree with Jean Pierre, it's the coaches.

K Major · 10-24-2014, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

We need to seriously address CB, LB and O line in the draft/free agency

Maybe even another pass rusher

+1. I would upgrade from the word 'maybe' to 'likely'. Our pass rush has been close to non existent this season. Not sure what is up with Cam this year. As JP eluded to earlier, we should have never drafted a guy who was so called RAW in the 2nd round if he does not get substantial playing time.

10-23-2014, 08:27 PM	#31
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Saints' search for second starting cornerback failed from the start Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 SJB doesn't need to see the field until we've A) locked a playoff berth or B) lost a playoff berth. I'm also ok with him in dime coverage when we have a three TD lead with 2 minutes remaining. I don't get why people are afraid for SJB to see the field. We can talk about who is better than who all we want, but only one thing matters that we see every Sunday; Robinson/White are awful and the verdict is still out on Dixon. Robinson and White have played so poorly at times it may have been better if they never took the field. "Corey White struggled, gave up eight of nine targets for 148, two touchdowns, and a perfect QB rating. Golden Tate accounted for five of those catches." Barry from MS likes this.

10-23-2014, 09:41 PM	#32
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Saints' search for second starting cornerback failed from the start Originally Posted by blackangold I don't get why people are afraid for SJB to see the field. We can talk about who is better than who all we want, but only one thing matters that we see every Sunday; Robinson/White are awful and the verdict is still out on Dixon. Robinson and White have played so poorly at times it may have been better if they never took the field. I'm with ya, man. I want SJB to see the field. But how else can he get more playing time other than doing well in practice? Where or how else can he prove he belongs on the nickle & dime packages? Or...hahaha...switch him back to WR.

10-23-2014, 10:12 PM	#33
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Saints' search for second starting cornerback failed from the start I would love to see SJB in a SS role, a big, athletic, fast guy, kind of like Chanceller is in Seattle, an enforcer.With Byrd at FS. Just my thought.

10-23-2014, 11:59 PM	#34
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints' search for second starting cornerback failed from the start Originally Posted by Danno So even though he isn't ready and could cost us wins, the coaches should play him anyway because he's a 2nd round pick? I'm not buying that at all. No, you don't pick him with a second round pick if he's not ready to play the position... K Major likes this.

10-24-2014, 12:33 AM	#35
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Saints' search for second starting cornerback failed from the start Originally Posted by halloween 65 I would love to see SJB in a SS role, a big, athletic, fast guy, kind of like Chanceller is in Seattle, an enforcer.With Byrd at FS. Just my thought. Then what do you do with Vacarro?

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10-24-2014, 01:30 AM	#36
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,660	Re: Saints' search for second starting cornerback failed from the start I don't care who starts there. I just want someone who will step up. All of them thus far have been awful.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints' search for second starting cornerback failed from the start Corey White is not a #2 CB. He's decent in nickel, where he should be. When he moves to the #2 through injuries, he gets beat more than he wins. What I'm hearing you guys say is you're ready to throw a RAW rookie in as our starting #2 CB. Sorry, that's crazy. Like I said before, if Greer doesn't break his leg off we're set and have a dominant secondary. What we have today was never the plan.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Saints' search for second starting cornerback failed from the start We need to seriously address CB, LB and O line in the draft/free agency Maybe even another pass rusher

10-24-2014, 10:25 AM	#39
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints' search for second starting cornerback failed from the start Originally Posted by dizzle88 We need to seriously address CB, LB and O line in the draft/free agency Maybe even another pass rusher I'm starting to agree with Jean Pierre, it's the coaches.

10-24-2014, 10:28 AM	#40
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints' search for second starting cornerback failed from the start Originally Posted by dizzle88 We need to seriously address CB, LB and O line in the draft/free agency Maybe even another pass rusher +1. I would upgrade from the word 'maybe' to 'likely'. Our pass rush has been close to non existent this season. Not sure what is up with Cam this year. As JP eluded to earlier, we should have never drafted a guy who was so called RAW in the 2nd round if he does not get substantial playing time. Barry from MS likes this.

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