Let Us All Just Face the Facts

Beastmode · 11-11-2014, 01:37 PM

Ummm No. I will not face any facts except the one that states we, the NEW ORLEANS SAINTS, are in 1ST PLACE in the NFC SOUTH. That's the only one that matters. All other facts are useless.

Lord_Saint83 · 11-11-2014, 01:39 PM

We need to get younger on the o-line and draft first or second round prospects not six round to undrafted players and pray they pan out. Same for a good lb. Weed Evans, Strief, and Grubbs out and that will be a ton a cap money back in the hat.

73Saint · 11-11-2014, 01:54 PM

Nope, we're not BAD. The rest of the NFC South is bad. I'm sure we're more feared than any other NFCS team. But, we're certainly not very good either. Not at this point anyway.

halloween 65 · 11-11-2014, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Our offense is old and any window for another super bowl win is all about shut now.

I guess it is time to accept the fact and get ready to start rebuilding ASAP.

I hope this angers all saint fans!

Lambast away I can handle it.

My first question to that is:
Do we sign Brees to another major money contract or trade him for draft picks like the Colts did Manning?
2: What side of the ball(offense or defense) do we invest heavily in?
3: How do we get out of the crazy money contracts(Grubbs, Lofton, Graham type) and make it work in our favor.
4.Who do we keep and who do we let go?
Rebuilding is going to happen sooner or later, it has to. No bashing here, we do need to look at the future!!

AsylumGuido · 11-11-2014, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

My first question to that is:
Do we sign Brees to another major money contract or trade him for draft picks like the Colts did Manning?
2: What side of the ball(offense or defense) do we invest heavily in?
3: How do we get out of the crazy money contracts(Grubbs, Lofton, Graham type) and make it work in our favor.
4.Who do we keep and who do we let go?
Rebuilding is going to happen sooner or later, it has to. No bashing here, we do need to look at the future!!

The Colts did not trade Manning. They cut him. There is no way the Saints would cut Brees (or trade Brees) when they can restructure. They "crazy money contracts" will work easily under the rapidly rising cap.

Rebuilding is already happening. Successful programs are constantly rebuilding. That's why the Saints have only a handful of players left from the Super Bowl roster. There are extremely young players on both sides of the ball.

dizzle88 · 11-11-2014, 02:31 PM

We could really do with a draft like we had in 2006

Reggie Bush, Roman Harper, Jahri evans, colston, PT as an UDFA
All gave us at least 5 or more solid years as a saint.

We tend to strike out on draft picks more than land successful players nowadays

RailBoss · 11-11-2014, 02:42 PM

The point that 73Saint made is a valid point, a lot of money was eaten up with that contract. And you have to figure there is that much less across
the boards. Brees has made us an instant contender since he got here.
I guess that is why our GM makes the big bucks to put all this into
perspective. Money or not I still don't see many QB's out there that
I would have the same faith in.

73Saint · 11-11-2014, 04:52 PM

I was thinking Sproles & Jenkins. I thought Jenkins was doing extremely well in Philly. If not, my bad. I also thought we had several players thriving in Detroit.

But, whatever. I Still love the Saints, and this forum (for the most part). Except when people express a thought and get lambasted for being a bandwagon fan or having no clue.

hagan714 · 11-11-2014, 05:11 PM

keep them coming boy we got more than a few people to pop out of the wood work on this one.

if you have read every response up to this point you should be feeling better about the saints.

but also some great points made to get some heads out of the sand at the same time.

My sides are killing me from LMAO at some of the funny responses that made valid points at my expense.

good god i love this site.

Rugby Saint II · 11-11-2014, 05:19 PM

We are already well into the rebuilding process.

11-11-2014, 01:37 PM	#1
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Let Us All Just Face the Facts Ummm No. I will not face any facts except the one that states we, the NEW ORLEANS SAINTS, are in 1ST PLACE in the NFC SOUTH. That's the only one that matters. All other facts are useless. hagan714, Mardigras9 and SloMotion like this.
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11-11-2014, 01:39 PM	#2
Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: Let Us All Just Face the Facts We need to get younger on the o-line and draft first or second round prospects not six round to undrafted players and pray they pan out. Same for a good lb. Weed Evans, Strief, and Grubbs out and that will be a ton a cap money back in the hat. hagan714 likes this.

11-11-2014, 01:54 PM	#3
73Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NOLA Posts: 2,336	Re: Let Us All Just Face the Facts Nope, we're not BAD. The rest of the NFC South is bad. I'm sure we're more feared than any other NFCS team. But, we're certainly not very good either. Not at this point anyway. hagan714 likes this.

11-11-2014, 02:19 PM	#4
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Let Us All Just Face the Facts Originally Posted by hagan714 Our offense is old and any window for another super bowl win is all about shut now. I guess it is time to accept the fact and get ready to start rebuilding ASAP. I hope this angers all saint fans! Lambast away I can handle it. My first question to that is: Do we sign Brees to another major money contract or trade him for draft picks like the Colts did Manning? 2: What side of the ball(offense or defense) do we invest heavily in? 3: How do we get out of the crazy money contracts(Grubbs, Lofton, Graham type) and make it work in our favor. 4.Who do we keep and who do we let go? Rebuilding is going to happen sooner or later, it has to. No bashing here, we do need to look at the future!! hagan714 likes this.

11-11-2014, 03:54 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,484	Re: Let Us All Just Face the Facts Originally Posted by halloween 65 My first question to that is: Do we sign Brees to another major money contract or trade him for draft picks like the Colts did Manning? 2: What side of the ball(offense or defense) do we invest heavily in? 3: How do we get out of the crazy money contracts(Grubbs, Lofton, Graham type) and make it work in our favor. 4.Who do we keep and who do we let go? Rebuilding is going to happen sooner or later, it has to. No bashing here, we do need to look at the future!! The Colts did not trade Manning. They cut him. There is no way the Saints would cut Brees (or trade Brees) when they can restructure. They "crazy money contracts" will work easily under the rapidly rising cap. Rebuilding is already happening. Successful programs are constantly rebuilding. That's why the Saints have only a handful of players left from the Super Bowl roster. There are extremely young players on both sides of the ball. Danno, hagan714 and WHODATINCA like this.

11-11-2014, 02:31 PM	#6
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: Let Us All Just Face the Facts We could really do with a draft like we had in 2006 Reggie Bush, Roman Harper, Jahri evans, colston, PT as an UDFA All gave us at least 5 or more solid years as a saint. We tend to strike out on draft picks more than land successful players nowadays

11-11-2014, 02:42 PM	#7
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Let Us All Just Face the Facts The point that 73Saint made is a valid point, a lot of money was eaten up with that contract. And you have to figure there is that much less across the boards. Brees has made us an instant contender since he got here. I guess that is why our GM makes the big bucks to put all this into perspective. Money or not I still don't see many QB's out there that I would have the same faith in. hagan714 likes this.

11-11-2014, 04:52 PM	#8
73Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NOLA Posts: 2,336	Re: Let Us All Just Face the Facts I was thinking Sproles & Jenkins. I thought Jenkins was doing extremely well in Philly. If not, my bad. I also thought we had several players thriving in Detroit. But, whatever. I Still love the Saints, and this forum (for the most part). Except when people express a thought and get lambasted for being a bandwagon fan or having no clue. hagan714 likes this.

11-11-2014, 05:11 PM	#9
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Let Us All Just Face the Facts keep them coming boy we got more than a few people to pop out of the wood work on this one. if you have read every response up to this point you should be feeling better about the saints. but also some great points made to get some heads out of the sand at the same time. My sides are killing me from LMAO at some of the funny responses that made valid points at my expense. good god i love this site. jeanpierre likes this.
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11-11-2014, 05:19 PM	#10
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,119	Re: Let Us All Just Face the Facts We are already well into the rebuilding process. RailBoss likes this.

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