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Should heads roll?
this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Anyone wondering why the defense is rubbish just needs to look at the cap difference Total Cap Number: $131,009,963 (Top 51: $123,720,425) Offense: $69,044,310 Defense: $35,605,070 Special: $4,665,000 The defense cap goes up next year but mostly on one of ...
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11-16-2014, 05:03 PM
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Re: Should heads roll?
Anyone wondering why the defense is rubbish just needs to look at the cap difference
Total Cap Number: $131,009,963 (Top 51: $123,720,425) Offense: $69,044,310 Defense: $35,605,070 Special: $4,665,000 The defense cap goes up next year but mostly on one of the worst contracts in the NFL,Juniors 12.5ml roster bonus. Its gaurenteed money too |
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11-16-2014, 10:50 PM
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Re: Should heads roll?
Originally Posted by lee909
 It starts with the GM... I don't get the love and all this BS "In Loomis We Trust"... Total BS... It was Loomis who put us up against the cap... And we praise him when he wiggles by another year?!? It's like maxing credit cards and making min. payments... Just really bad cap management... As poor as the inconsistencies in personnel decisions... His most successful FA signings are... Drew Brees - Only Saints and Dolphins were interested, and Dolphins rightfully didn't want to guarantee the money; By The Way, Thank You Drew and Agent for Repaying On That Olive Branch)... Darren Sharper - Yeah, he's a developed into social-f**ked up misfit, but we got one incredible season out of him... Keenan Lewis - Total Warrior; Great Heart; Lesson Learned - We Sure As Hell Can't Evaluate Defensive Back Draft Prospects, but we sure can sign him... Jabari Greer - See Keenan Lewis... Then you look at his busts and resignings* of some awful, overpaid players... Jason David Will Smith* Ben Grubbs Roman Harper* Junior Galette* Curtis Lofton David Hawthorne Jarius Byrd Zach Strief Aubrayo Franklin** Shaun Rogers** Olin Kreutz Among Others... Like to bring up the Franklin, Rogers signings; why did we sign two 34 Nose Tackles when we had a 43 defense?!? And to take that a step further, why did we invest two draft picks to move up to get John Jenkins and not draft, sign 34 linebackers?!? And this moving up to get players crap...Did we not learn from Atlanta's gaffe to move up and get Julio Jones?!? Yes, they have a great player, but the had multiple holes on their roster as we have... Absolutely love Brandin Cooks - his ability, attitude, maturity, hands... But we could also have had Kelvin Benjamin or Jordan Matthews and still had a third round pick to get a quality linebacker... Why get a 34 scheme coach with mediocre success and provide him with a NT that took two picks to get and sign an undersized 43 DE who can only pass rush to a gross overpay... Just because Coach wants him doesn't mean you sign him... A Good GM would know 1) Talent 2) Wise Cap Management 3) Consistent Roster Philosophy Changes MUST Be Made and I'd start with a New GM who's got a better take on talent than just FA running backs and occasional opportune defensive backs... |
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11-16-2014, 05:11 PM
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Re: Should heads roll?
Start TL at center and get some defensive coaches. Does not just fall on the DC, but all the coaches on the defensive side of the ball.
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11-16-2014, 05:14 PM
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Re: Should heads roll?
By cap numbers
We have the 8th highest spending on the o-line with two players eating up most of it. 16th highest spending on WR,though are best two are o rookie deals 27th highestest paid D-line 22nd LB 22nd CB As things stand next year 1st QB 13th WR 2nd TE 11th O-Line total offenseive cap 1st 83ml With Brees,Evans,Grubbs and Colston eating over 45ml in cap 4th D-line 12th LB 1st Safety 22nd CB 4th overall defense All them back loaded deals going to blow any chance a rebuild till 2016,or they will just extend and back load them more and more |
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11-16-2014, 05:36 PM
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Re: Should heads roll?
Originally Posted by lee909
The piper had to be paid sooner or later ...
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11-16-2014, 05:31 PM
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Re: Should heads roll?
Payton gives play-calling duties to OC Carmichael so Payton can concentrate on trying to extinguish what is becoming a dumpster fire for this "team".
A personnel move that I think would benefit this offense is that Goodwin sits and watches Lelito until the end of the season. The defense? Ugh...where to start? And on a personal note, I'd love, love, love to see that glue-sniffing moron McMahon sent packing and give the Special Teams unit a coordinator who knows what the crap they're doing. |
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11-16-2014, 05:56 PM
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Re: Should heads roll?
Originally Posted by Barry from MS
McMahon couldn't do anything with Sproles last year and yet he is a return machine in Philly. wtf?
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11-16-2014, 06:06 PM
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Re: Should heads roll?
Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II
Yup. And Cooks will not fair any better than Sproles did here returning punts.
If any one thinks that there's nothing complicated about special teams as far as coverage & returns does not appreciate this crucial phase of all football games. It's not just a bunch of guys running aimlessly at full speed looking to clobber someone. Our return game is crap...and has been for the longest time. Our coverage teams are crap...and has been for the longest time. If someone could tell me the last punt and/or FG we've blocked I'd sure like to know...you'd have to use the Dewey Decimal system to find it. We make ZERO big plays on special teams. Hell, we make ZERO above average plays on special teams. |
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11-16-2014, 05:52 PM
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Re: Should heads roll?
They were ready. 1st down obvious runs didn't fool anyone.
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