SAINTS BLOWN OUT AT HOME BY CAROLINA 41-10

blackangold · 12-07-2014, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Heard parts of Payton's post game presser.

He was adamant that changes will happen.

I'm eager to see exactly how responds.

His change will be going to kfc before the game rather than Popeyes...

The things that need to change take years to build... the lines on both sides of the ball.

saintsfan1976 · 12-07-2014, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

His change will be going to kfc before the game rather than Popeyes...

The things that need to change take years to build... the lines on both sides of the ball.

I'll bet you a bucket of wings we don't need as many changes as you'd think.

blackangold · 12-07-2014, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I'll bet you a bucket of wings we don't need as many changes as you'd think.

Don't think we need a ton of changes...

New Center, new Guards, a pair of mean DTs that push the pocket, a decent #2 CB, a new ILB not named Hawthorne, and lastly new positional coaches across the board.

Guess that's not to much to ask for right?

lol

saintsfan1976 · 12-07-2014, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Don't think we need a ton of changes...

New Center, new Guards, a pair of mean DTs that push the pocket, a decent #2 CB, a new ILB not named Hawthorne, and lastly new positional coaches across the board.

Guess that's not to much to ask for right?

lol

C - Lelito
G - both can play another year or two with Lelito at center
DT - agree 100% that we need ONE more
CB #2 - agree 100%
ILB - agree 100% we need ONE more

Coaches - not all need to go.

So that's an impact DT and ILB to go along with CB. Totally do-able.

Where's my chicken?

blackangold · 12-07-2014, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

C - Lelito
G - both can play another year or two with Lelito at center
DT - agree 100% that we need ONE more
CB #2 - agree 100%
ILB - agree 100% we need ONE more

Coaches - not all need to go.

So that's an impact DT and ILB to go along with CB. Totally do-able.

Where's my chicken?

Forgot you were the end-all-be-all of saints fans, my bad, ill just take your opinion for fact because you say so...

Lelito is good enough at center but you're overvaluing our Guards, both have let age catch them and as the season has gone on they look a few steps away from retirement.

saintsfan1976 · 12-07-2014, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Forgot you were the end-all-be-all of saints fans, my bad, ill just take your opinion for fact because you say so...

Seems you handle opinions the same way you handle losses... Never, have I ever given that impression here.

Originally Posted by blackangold

Lelito is good enough at center but you're overvaluing our Guards, both have let age catch them and as the season has gone on they look a few steps away from retirement.

Both can play another year. That's not overvaluing that's stating that a better center will make their jobs easier.

blackangold · 12-07-2014, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Seems you handle opinions the same way you handle losses... Never, have I ever given that impression here.

Both can play another year. That's not overvaluing that's stating that a better center will make their jobs easier.

Impressions aren't up to you to decide. The preseption you give is decided by the intended audience and although you may not have the intention of sounding like a "know it all"; you do.

MarchingOn · 12-07-2014, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Don't think we need a ton of changes...

New Center, new Guards, a pair of mean DTs that push the pocket, a decent #2 CB, a new ILB not named Hawthorne, and lastly new positional coaches across the board.

Guess that's not to much to ask for right?

lol

Agree, except I'd keep Jahri Evans and maybe even Grubbs. Don't watch enough tape to know, but I've seen Evens do some good things still.

Don't know why we don't move Lelito back to starter. We did better when he was starting, especially the run game plus he's apparently "the future" (or at least our backup for Center and both Guards).

We so need another ILB...2, in my opinion and at least 1 in most others' opinions.

I'd like a #2 CB and move Robinson to nickel covering the slot, if we keep him at all given a good price. He's gotten better the last few games, I think. White is a good backup or dime for a recent 5th rounder, I think.

I think losing Jenkins and maybe Harper hurt more than we thought, too.

halloween 65 · 12-07-2014, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

His change will be going to kfc before the game rather than Popeyes...

The things that need to change take years to build... the lines on both sides of the ball.

I agree it does take years to build. But a good draft and a couple FA next year along with a trade or 2 we could be in good shape, at least stong.Then we could see if Brees is Brees or not. If we could trade right, I would resign Ingram, he produced this year, can't say that for alot of the other players. Very spotty at time if any. Bunkley needs to go for sure.

12-07-2014, 05:55 PM	#1
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: SAINTS BLOWN OUT AT HOME BY CAROLINA 41-10 Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Heard parts of Payton's post game presser. He was adamant that changes will happen. I'm eager to see exactly how responds. His change will be going to kfc before the game rather than Popeyes... The things that need to change take years to build... the lines on both sides of the ball. halloween 65, bobdog86 and brees84 like this.

12-07-2014, 06:34 PM	#3
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: SAINTS BLOWN OUT AT HOME BY CAROLINA 41-10 Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I'll bet you a bucket of wings we don't need as many changes as you'd think. Don't think we need a ton of changes... New Center, new Guards, a pair of mean DTs that push the pocket, a decent #2 CB, a new ILB not named Hawthorne, and lastly new positional coaches across the board. Guess that's not to much to ask for right? lol

12-07-2014, 06:44 PM	#4
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,011 Blog Entries: 3	Re: SAINTS BLOWN OUT AT HOME BY CAROLINA 41-10 Originally Posted by blackangold Don't think we need a ton of changes... New Center, new Guards, a pair of mean DTs that push the pocket, a decent #2 CB, a new ILB not named Hawthorne, and lastly new positional coaches across the board. Guess that's not to much to ask for right? lol C - Lelito G - both can play another year or two with Lelito at center DT - agree 100% that we need ONE more CB #2 - agree 100% ILB - agree 100% we need ONE more Coaches - not all need to go. So that's an impact DT and ILB to go along with CB. Totally do-able. Where's my chicken? MarchingOn likes this.

12-07-2014, 07:00 PM	#5
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: SAINTS BLOWN OUT AT HOME BY CAROLINA 41-10 Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 C - Lelito G - both can play another year or two with Lelito at center DT - agree 100% that we need ONE more CB #2 - agree 100% ILB - agree 100% we need ONE more Coaches - not all need to go. So that's an impact DT and ILB to go along with CB. Totally do-able. Where's my chicken? Forgot you were the end-all-be-all of saints fans, my bad, ill just take your opinion for fact because you say so... Lelito is good enough at center but you're overvaluing our Guards, both have let age catch them and as the season has gone on they look a few steps away from retirement.

12-07-2014, 07:23 PM	#6
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,011 Blog Entries: 3	Re: SAINTS BLOWN OUT AT HOME BY CAROLINA 41-10 Originally Posted by blackangold Forgot you were the end-all-be-all of saints fans, my bad, ill just take your opinion for fact because you say so... Seems you handle opinions the same way you handle losses... Never, have I ever given that impression here. Originally Posted by blackangold Lelito is good enough at center but you're overvaluing our Guards, both have let age catch them and as the season has gone on they look a few steps away from retirement. Both can play another year. That's not overvaluing that's stating that a better center will make their jobs easier.

12-07-2014, 06:12 PM	#2
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,011 Blog Entries: 3	Re: SAINTS BLOWN OUT AT HOME BY CAROLINA 41-10 Originally Posted by blackangold His change will be going to kfc before the game rather than Popeyes... The things that need to change take years to build... the lines on both sides of the ball. I'll bet you a bucket of wings we don't need as many changes as you'd think. captainshawn likes this.

12-07-2014, 08:52 PM	#7
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: SAINTS BLOWN OUT AT HOME BY CAROLINA 41-10 Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Seems you handle opinions the same way you handle losses... Never, have I ever given that impression here. Both can play another year. That's not overvaluing that's stating that a better center will make their jobs easier. Impressions aren't up to you to decide. The preseption you give is decided by the intended audience and although you may not have the intention of sounding like a "know it all"; you do.

12-07-2014, 08:14 PM	#8
MarchingOn 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 387 Blog Entries: 1	Re: SAINTS BLOWN OUT AT HOME BY CAROLINA 41-10 Originally Posted by blackangold Don't think we need a ton of changes... New Center, new Guards, a pair of mean DTs that push the pocket, a decent #2 CB, a new ILB not named Hawthorne, and lastly new positional coaches across the board. Guess that's not to much to ask for right? lol Agree, except I'd keep Jahri Evans and maybe even Grubbs. Don't watch enough tape to know, but I've seen Evens do some good things still. Don't know why we don't move Lelito back to starter. We did better when he was starting, especially the run game plus he's apparently "the future" (or at least our backup for Center and both Guards). We so need another ILB...2, in my opinion and at least 1 in most others' opinions. I'd like a #2 CB and move Robinson to nickel covering the slot, if we keep him at all given a good price. He's gotten better the last few games, I think. White is a good backup or dime for a recent 5th rounder, I think. I think losing Jenkins and maybe Harper hurt more than we thought, too.

12-07-2014, 06:28 PM	#9
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: SAINTS BLOWN OUT AT HOME BY CAROLINA 41-10 Originally Posted by blackangold His change will be going to kfc before the game rather than Popeyes... The things that need to change take years to build... the lines on both sides of the ball. I agree it does take years to build. But a good draft and a couple FA next year along with a trade or 2 we could be in good shape, at least stong.Then we could see if Brees is Brees or not. If we could trade right, I would resign Ingram, he produced this year, can't say that for alot of the other players. Very spotty at time if any. Bunkley needs to go for sure. saintsfan1976 likes this.

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