Lewis: Saints cornerback Jean-Baptiste waits to take active role, says: 'I can’t figure out what’s going on...I'm feeling lost'

|Mitch| · 12-31-2014, 04:50 PM

Let's see what the upcoming new secondary coach makes of him before we start screaming 'bust" or "cut him"...

hagan714 · 12-31-2014, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Now we see Corey White with almost identical comments regarding his position and future:
New Orleans Saints' uncertainty on defense has Corey White feeling in limbo | NOLA.com

Now we are seeing a trend, how in the world is communication of this type being missed? How do these guys not know the plan so they can work on different techniques? ... WOW

I hope this was just an issue with the DB coach and not a broader view of Payton's organization.

yet another CB in limbo and 1 a mess on the depth charts yet we are out looking at SS?

I am confessed with what the saints are doing? throwing darts at the wavier wire while running around screaming the sky is falling?

i am bewildered

K Major · 12-31-2014, 04:58 PM

We are a damn mess from top to bottom.

Danno · 12-31-2014, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

We are a damn mess from top to bottom.

No we aren't. 2014 was a down year. We're still loaded with talent. We just have a few bad apples that need to be trashed.

hagan714 · 12-31-2014, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

No we aren't. 2014 was a down year. We're still loaded with talent. We just have a few bad apples that need to be trashed.

i agree but in no way should the defense get to add so many players. offense first and if there is room at the table later defense can have the scraps.

Danno · 12-31-2014, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

i agree but in no way should the defense get to add so many players. offense first and if there is room at the table later defense can have the scraps.

Disagree a bit Hagan. The offense needs O-line interior upgrades which typically are cheaper than most other positions.

The defense needs a #2 CB, OLB (2) and D-Line.

Cap wise, I'd estimate the upgrades need to be about 60% Defense, 40% Offense.

Barry from MS · 01-01-2015, 02:00 PM

Who thinks a "SJB package deal" on or before Draft Day is coming?

I kinda hope so...I've soured on the SJB-thing. There is something behind the scenes with this kid we ain't seeing.

blackangold · 01-01-2015, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

Who thinks a "SJB package deal" on or before Draft Day is coming?

I kinda hope so...I've soured on the SJB-thing. There is something behind the scenes with this kid we ain't seeing.

There must be something going on, the kid can't make more mistakes than any of the other people we put in.

Hope we get something out of him or for him, because you know he'll go to another team and end up in the pro-bowl.

MarchingOn · 01-04-2015, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Disagree a bit Hagan. The offense needs O-line interior upgrades which typically are cheaper than most other positions.

The defense needs a #2 CB, OLB (2) and D-Line.

Cap wise, I'd estimate the upgrades need to be about 60% Defense, 40% Offense.

Agree with your disagreement except to add 1 more for Defense (interior Linebacking). Don't you think our ILBs are unable to stop the run?

Tackles are made downfield, not in the hole. When they try to stop a run in the hole, they instead run right into the trash.

Hawthorne is surely gone, but Lofton's tackle numbers mislead but don't obscure the fact our run defense is at bottom of the league. Any run defense doing so poorly should look at MLB/ILBs (and/or NT/DL).

MarchingOn · 01-04-2015, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

There must be something going on, the kid can't make more mistakes than any of the other people we put in.

Hope we get something out of him or for him, because you know he'll go to another team and end up in the pro-bowl.

Like QBs Bulger (Rams) and Delhomme (Panthers), perhaps Safety Jenkins (Eagles), but who else do you recall?

12-31-2014, 04:50 PM	#51
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Lewis: Saints cornerback Jean-Baptiste waits to take active role, says: 'I can’t figure out what’s going on...I'm feeling lost' Let's see what the upcoming new secondary coach makes of him before we start screaming 'bust" or "cut him"... MarchingOn likes this.

12-31-2014, 04:53 PM	#52
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Lewis: Saints cornerback Jean-Baptiste waits to take active role, says: 'I can’t figure out what’s going on...I'm feeling lost' Originally Posted by blackangold Now we see Corey White with almost identical comments regarding his position and future: New Orleans Saints' uncertainty on defense has Corey White feeling in limbo \| NOLA.com Now we are seeing a trend, how in the world is communication of this type being missed? How do these guys not know the plan so they can work on different techniques? ... WOW I hope this was just an issue with the DB coach and not a broader view of Payton's organization. yet another CB in limbo and 1 a mess on the depth charts yet we are out looking at SS? I am confessed with what the saints are doing? throwing darts at the wavier wire while running around screaming the sky is falling? i am bewildered MarchingOn likes this.

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Lewis: Saints cornerback Jean-Baptiste waits to take active role, says: 'I can’t figure out what’s going on...I'm feeling lost' Originally Posted by Danno No we aren't. 2014 was a down year. We're still loaded with talent. We just have a few bad apples that need to be trashed. i agree but in no way should the defense get to add so many players. offense first and if there is room at the table later defense can have the scraps.

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12-31-2014, 05:13 PM	#56
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,757	Re: Lewis: Saints cornerback Jean-Baptiste waits to take active role, says: 'I can’t figure out what’s going on...I'm feeling lost' Originally Posted by hagan714 i agree but in no way should the defense get to add so many players. offense first and if there is room at the table later defense can have the scraps. Disagree a bit Hagan. The offense needs O-line interior upgrades which typically are cheaper than most other positions. The defense needs a #2 CB, OLB (2) and D-Line. Cap wise, I'd estimate the upgrades need to be about 60% Defense, 40% Offense.

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blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Lewis: Saints cornerback Jean-Baptiste waits to take active role, says: 'I can’t figure out what’s going on...I'm feeling lost' Originally Posted by Barry from MS Who thinks a "SJB package deal" on or before Draft Day is coming? I kinda hope so...I've soured on the SJB-thing. There is something behind the scenes with this kid we ain't seeing. There must be something going on, the kid can't make more mistakes than any of the other people we put in. Hope we get something out of him or for him, because you know he'll go to another team and end up in the pro-bowl.

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MarchingOn 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 387 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Lewis: Saints cornerback Jean-Baptiste waits to take active role, says: 'I can’t figure out what’s going on...I'm feeling lost' Originally Posted by Danno Disagree a bit Hagan. The offense needs O-line interior upgrades which typically are cheaper than most other positions. The defense needs a #2 CB, OLB (2) and D-Line. Cap wise, I'd estimate the upgrades need to be about 60% Defense, 40% Offense. Agree with your disagreement except to add 1 more for Defense (interior Linebacking). Don't you think our ILBs are unable to stop the run? Tackles are made downfield, not in the hole. When they try to stop a run in the hole, they instead run right into the trash. Hawthorne is surely gone, but Lofton's tackle numbers mislead but don't obscure the fact our run defense is at bottom of the league. Any run defense doing so poorly should look at MLB/ILBs (and/or NT/DL).

01-04-2015, 11:46 AM	#60
MarchingOn 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 387 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Lewis: Saints cornerback Jean-Baptiste waits to take active role, says: 'I can’t figure out what’s going on...I'm feeling lost' Originally Posted by blackangold There must be something going on, the kid can't make more mistakes than any of the other people we put in. Hope we get something out of him or for him, because you know he'll go to another team and end up in the pro-bowl. Like QBs Bulger (Rams) and Delhomme (Panthers), perhaps Safety Jenkins (Eagles), but who else do you recall?

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