Now THIS is an interesting mock

ScottyRo · 01-13-2005, 04:54 PM

So in essence, since Brooks won 9 games in \'02, then he is also responsible for the 7 losses and the 3 game slide right? Cause he can\'t possibly win 9 games and then ride the bench in the 7 losses? SO he has NEVER own 10 games right. That is like me saying it is unquestionable that Peyton Manning will win a Superbowl. Hasn\'t happened so it can be questioned. The only things that are unquestionable in football are things thathave already happened. It is unquestionable this team has not won 10 games in a season with Brooks as the full time starter. That is unquestionable.

Now I see what you\'re not getting. I did not say Brooks WOULD win 10. I\'m not predicting the future here. I said that his CAPABILITY of winning 10 is unquestioned. I\'m definitely not sold on whether he ever will.

WhoDat · 01-13-2005, 05:00 PM

Three questions:

1) Would the Saints be capable of winning 10 games with Bulger or Delhomme at the helm?

2) Would Kitna or Harrington or Volek or Brees or Whomever stop this team from winning 10 games?

3) This is the big one. Have the Saints won 10 games out of any stretch of 16 in the last 4.5 years with Brooks as the starter?

[Edited on 13/1/2005 by WhoDat]

ScottyRo · 01-13-2005, 05:17 PM

1) Bulger maybe. I think Jake is as erratic as Brooks with less of an arm but more heart - so I don\'t know.

2) Kitna maybe. I like all three of the others. (That doesn\'t mean I think they are viable candidates to come here.)

3) No. I\'m afraid to ask if he\'s ever lost 10 games in any 16 game stretch. And I think the chances are good that he does it for the first time in \'05. He\'s got 4 already. Now all he has to do is go 6-6 in the next 12 and we all know he\'s capable of .500.

shadowdrinker · 01-13-2005, 05:29 PM

Kitna , Volek, Harrington, and Brees aren\'t in any way associated with this teams record..and they probably never will be...

The Howard trade talks are ridiculous...

Arizona could trade him..Atlanta could trade him...It sounds about as dumb as saying we can trade him..he signed a contract..and has completed it..he is a FREE AGENT..In no way does he owe this team anything..he doesn\'t have to play here..he doesn\'t even have to answer the phone if the Saints personel call...and..in turn..the team owes him nothing as well...HE\'S NO LONGER A SAINT..neither is Volek, Harrington, Brees or any other starting Q.B. other than Brooks...Why don\'t we trade Payton Manning?..we could trade him to the Jets for Tom Brady...and get two first round picks for Mcnabb from the Steelers...that\'s about what some fo these posts sound like...

JOESAM2002 · 01-13-2005, 05:38 PM

Shadow, who s__t in your wheaties? Lighten up man. If you don\'t like the post, don\'t read it!

shadowdrinker · 01-13-2005, 05:48 PM

[quote:95df57b74b]Shadow, who s__t in your wheaties?

Benson and Haslett..they even fake mooned me and flossed thier a**es on the spoon...

saintswhodi · 01-13-2005, 06:39 PM

I just wonder if shadow has ever heard of the franchise tag. Have you? It\'s a little thingy they use to keep unrestricted free agents from signing elsewhere. While you are trying to people for speaking on trading Howard, EVERY time I have seen it they have said SIGN AND TRADE. We all know the rules of football and the situations of the players on the team.

[Edited on 14/1/2005 by JOESAM2002]

Danno · 01-13-2005, 06:46 PM

GEORGE!!!
Your back, I just now realized it. I\'m must be getting old.

So, how many usernames are you using now?

shadowdrinker · 01-13-2005, 07:01 PM

I just wonder if shadow has ever heard of the franchise tag. Have you? It\'s a little thingy they use to keep unrestricted free agents from signing elsewhere. While you are trying to belittle people for speaking on trading Howard, EVERY time I have seen it they have said SIGN AND TRADE. We all know the rules of football and the situations of the players on the team. No need to be an arse about it man.

Yes..the same Franchise tag they slapped on him last year..it doesn\'t carry over for eternity...you understand that..don\'t you?...

He is an unrestricted free agent...we hold no rights to his name..or who he signs to ..or whatever...heck..why not mention all the free agents we could sign and trade?..it would make as much sense to...

He signed a 1 year contract back in May...His Franchise tag is gone..you can\'t be slapped with it two years in a row...

FireVenturi · 01-13-2005, 07:07 PM

Yea lets draft a QB and start tha rebuilding process. GREAT IDEA!!! What retard came up with this mock!

Ummm, If I can ask a question without starting a peeing contest here.

Why is it that: New QB = Rebuilding?

The Steelers are starting a rookie and seem to have a better than average change of going to the superbowl. The Patriots won the superbowl with a rookie. The Rams won a superbowl with a guy who had never started in the NFL before.

It seems like if we got good value for Leon in a trade we could address defensive needs and improve our OT\'s and move to more of a ball control offense so the QB position just isn\'t as important. I don\'t think anyone in favor of a Leon trade is suggesting that the rookie has to come in and run the same playbook as Peyton Manning.

But even beyond that, I\'m not sure that Leon is so indispensible that the entire organization folds without him. Likewise, I don\'t see Leon taking us to a superbowl next year, so I\'m not sure why keeping him at his high cap number is so critical?

At any rate, this \"rebuilding\" claim has come up several times and leaves me scratching my head. Just asking.

Trent Dilfer went to the SB. thus any qb EVER is capable of goin to the SB....J Delhomme went to the Sb for cryin\' out loud....oh my bad both those teams had awesome D\'s

01-13-2005, 04:54 PM	#71
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	Now THIS is an interesting mock So in essence, since Brooks won 9 games in \'02, then he is also responsible for the 7 losses and the 3 game slide right? Cause he can\'t possibly win 9 games and then ride the bench in the 7 losses? SO he has NEVER own 10 games right. That is like me saying it is unquestionable that Peyton Manning will win a Superbowl. Hasn\'t happened so it can be questioned. The only things that are unquestionable in football are things thathave already happened. It is unquestionable this team has not won 10 games in a season with Brooks as the full time starter. That is unquestionable. Now I see what you\'re not getting. I did not say Brooks WOULD win 10. I\'m not predicting the future here. I said that his CAPABILITY of winning 10 is unquestioned. I\'m definitely not sold on whether he ever will.

01-13-2005, 05:00 PM	#72
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Now THIS is an interesting mock Three questions: 1) Would the Saints be capable of winning 10 games with Bulger or Delhomme at the helm? 2) Would Kitna or Harrington or Volek or Brees or Whomever stop this team from winning 10 games? 3) This is the big one. Have the Saints won 10 games out of any stretch of 16 in the last 4.5 years with Brooks as the starter? [Edited on 13/1/2005 by WhoDat]
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01-13-2005, 05:17 PM	#73
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	Now THIS is an interesting mock 1) Bulger maybe. I think Jake is as erratic as Brooks with less of an arm but more heart - so I don\'t know. 2) Kitna maybe. I like all three of the others. (That doesn\'t mean I think they are viable candidates to come here.) 3) No. I\'m afraid to ask if he\'s ever lost 10 games in any 16 game stretch. And I think the chances are good that he does it for the first time in \'05. He\'s got 4 already. Now all he has to do is go 6-6 in the next 12 and we all know he\'s capable of .500.

01-13-2005, 05:29 PM	#74
shadowdrinker Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 517	Now THIS is an interesting mock Kitna , Volek, Harrington, and Brees aren\'t in any way associated with this teams record..and they probably never will be... The Howard trade talks are ridiculous... Arizona could trade him..Atlanta could trade him...It sounds about as dumb as saying we can trade him..he signed a contract..and has completed it..he is a FREE AGENT..In no way does he owe this team anything..he doesn\'t have to play here..he doesn\'t even have to answer the phone if the Saints personel call...and..in turn..the team owes him nothing as well...HE\'S NO LONGER A SAINT..neither is Volek, Harrington, Brees or any other starting Q.B. other than Brooks...Why don\'t we trade Payton Manning?..we could trade him to the Jets for Tom Brady...and get two first round picks for Mcnabb from the Steelers...that\'s about what some fo these posts sound like...
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JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Now THIS is an interesting mock Shadow, who s__t in your wheaties? Lighten up man. If you don\'t like the post, don\'t read it!

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01-13-2005, 05:48 PM	#76
shadowdrinker Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 517	Now THIS is an interesting mock [quote:95df57b74b]Shadow, who s__t in your wheaties? Benson and Haslett..they even fake mooned me and flossed thier a**es on the spoon...
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01-13-2005, 06:39 PM	#77
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Now THIS is an interesting mock I just wonder if shadow has ever heard of the franchise tag. Have you? It\'s a little thingy they use to keep unrestricted free agents from signing elsewhere. While you are trying to people for speaking on trading Howard, EVERY time I have seen it they have said SIGN AND TRADE. We all know the rules of football and the situations of the players on the team. [Edited on 14/1/2005 by JOESAM2002]

01-13-2005, 06:46 PM	#78
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	Now THIS is an interesting mock GEORGE!!! Your back, I just now realized it. I\'m must be getting old. So, how many usernames are you using now?

01-13-2005, 07:01 PM	#79
shadowdrinker Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 517	Now THIS is an interesting mock I just wonder if shadow has ever heard of the franchise tag. Have you? It\'s a little thingy they use to keep unrestricted free agents from signing elsewhere. While you are trying to belittle people for speaking on trading Howard, EVERY time I have seen it they have said SIGN AND TRADE. We all know the rules of football and the situations of the players on the team. No need to be an arse about it man. Yes..the same Franchise tag they slapped on him last year..it doesn\'t carry over for eternity...you understand that..don\'t you?... He is an unrestricted free agent...we hold no rights to his name..or who he signs to ..or whatever...heck..why not mention all the free agents we could sign and trade?..it would make as much sense to... He signed a 1 year contract back in May...His Franchise tag is gone..you can\'t be slapped with it two years in a row...
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01-13-2005, 07:07 PM	#80
FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	Now THIS is an interesting mock Yea lets draft a QB and start tha rebuilding process. GREAT IDEA!!! What retard came up with this mock! Ummm, If I can ask a question without starting a peeing contest here. Why is it that: New QB = Rebuilding? The Steelers are starting a rookie and seem to have a better than average change of going to the superbowl. The Patriots won the superbowl with a rookie. The Rams won a superbowl with a guy who had never started in the NFL before. It seems like if we got good value for Leon in a trade we could address defensive needs and improve our OT\'s and move to more of a ball control offense so the QB position just isn\'t as important. I don\'t think anyone in favor of a Leon trade is suggesting that the rookie has to come in and run the same playbook as Peyton Manning. But even beyond that, I\'m not sure that Leon is so indispensible that the entire organization folds without him. Likewise, I don\'t see Leon taking us to a superbowl next year, so I\'m not sure why keeping him at his high cap number is so critical? At any rate, this \"rebuilding\" claim has come up several times and leaves me scratching my head. Just asking. Trent Dilfer went to the SB. thus any qb EVER is capable of goin to the SB....J Delhomme went to the Sb for cryin\' out loud....oh my bad both those teams had awesome D\'s
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