Now THIS is an interesting mock

saintswhodi · 01-11-2005, 04:33 PM

http://www.profootballdraft.com/editordraft01.php

Depending on what we do in free agency, and how much our coaches(Lord help us it's in their hands again) feel the defense has really improved over the last 4 games, this could be an interesting and OVERDUE pick for us. Ballsy to say the least. Maybe too high for us to be looking at that position though.

4saintspirit · 01-11-2005, 04:45 PM

If we could get an Off Lineman, a cornerback, and a linebacker through trading Howard and using cap space to sign free agents that pick is exactly what I suggested in another thread. Get a young promising QB to 1) put pressure on Brooks - look what drafting Rivers did to Brees, and 2) give us an option for the next year. If Brooks turns out not to be the guy we have Smith with a year of knowing the system -- and we can trade Brooks and his fat contract -- or if Brooks shapes up we could probably still get a number one for Smith

saintswhodi · 01-11-2005, 05:02 PM

I like it just to get rid of Leon, but that\'s just me. We could trade him right before we make that pick or right after to get more picks. He has had his chance, he isn\'t getting any better. I wish he was a Drew Brees. Every bit of competition he has had has been run out of town so the only way Smith truly gets a shot under Haslett is with Leon gone.

JKool · 01-11-2005, 05:19 PM

Right...

In the first round we fail to take an OT or an LB... sure. The only way that happens is if we go APE SHIZNIT in FA, which we all know we won\'t.

With E. Brown, Crowder, and Burnett all still available, do you really think you\'d be happy with a prospect QB who won\'t play for two or three years - while we are plagued with offensive penalties and the 32nd ranked defense? Your desire to get rid of \"Leon\" is clouding your vision Whodi.

It is a ballsy call, but it isn\'t a smart one - not this year.

What this suggests to me though, is that we could trade down a spot or two and maybe pick up a couple of extra picks or a serviceable second CB.

4saintspirit · 01-11-2005, 05:23 PM

Right...

In the first round we fail to take an OT or an LB... sure. The only way that happens is if we go APE SHIZNIT in FA, which we all know we won\'t.

With E. Brown, Crowder, and Burnett all still available, do you really think you\'d be happy with a prospect QB who won\'t play for two or three years - while we are plagued with offensive penalties and the 32nd ranked defense? Your desire to get rid of \"Leon\" is clouding your vision Whodi.

It is a ballsy call, but it isn\'t a smart one - not this year.

What this suggests to me though, is that we could trade down a spot or two and maybe pick up a couple of extra picks or a serviceable second CB.

My post had us getting a linebacker, Smoot and an Offensive lineman in FA (or through a trade of Howard). If that was the case I still think that Smith would be an excellent pick.

saintswhodi · 01-11-2005, 05:24 PM

Thing is Kool, I don\'t think Smith is a project qb. I think he can come in and be better than the incumbent. I do think picking him in the first is a reach, but he has talent and we will see where he grades out after the combine. If you read my first post, it specifically said \"depending on what we do in free agency,\" meaning don\'t forego needs to get the guy, but if we have addressed LB and O-line in free agency, go for it.

Maybe too high for us to be looking at that position though.

Last line in the first post.

JKool · 01-11-2005, 05:29 PM

Whodi, I wasn\'t insulting your intelligence. I think we agree that this pick is NOT going to happen - that is all I was expressing.

4ss, I understood your point - that is why I wrote this:

The only way that happens is if we go APE SHIZNIT in FA, which we all know we won\'t.

Also, we probably need two LBs, a DT, and two OL to be competitive at this point. We\'re also going to need a safety very soon.

Don\'t worry guys, I realize that it was a \"fantasy\" of sorts. I just wanted to be clear that I think that looking at a QB is nowhere near a priority for this team - even with a reasonable FA (which we haven\'t had in as long as I can remember, which we all know isn\'t that long).

Apologies for writing in such a manner as to make you think I wasn\'t paying attention to what you were saying.

I, for one, would be extremely unhappy if we took a QB in the first round, UNLESS A LOT of other things happen first.

[Edited on 11/1/2005 by JKool]

saintswhodi · 01-11-2005, 05:36 PM

I gotcha, I only think we need one lb though. And if we move Gandy to RT and get a decent LT, I think we could survive that for a year. DT is also a must. So I do agree with you. But we see how well this team has done getting DT\'s by any route(Sully, Jackson, Hand) so I don\'t have a lot of confidence there. One interesting name mentioned was Hovan from Minny. He is relatively Young and not far from being considered one of the league\'s best. Maybe we get him at a reasonable price, a star lb, sign and trade Howard for a good o-lineman liek Samuels from Wash or for Smoot, we could be in a position to take Smith. I would love it like a hog in slop.

JOESAM2002 · 01-11-2005, 06:35 PM

Ape what, JKool? Does the name Jonathon Sullivan ring a bell? :rollinglaugh:

FireVenturi · 01-11-2005, 06:56 PM

Yea lets draft a QB and start tha rebuilding process. GREAT IDEA!!! What retard came up with this mock!

01-11-2005, 04:33 PM	#1
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Now THIS is an interesting mock http://www.profootballdraft.com/editordraft01.php Depending on what we do in free agency, and how much our coaches(Lord help us it's in their hands again) feel the defense has really improved over the last 4 games, this could be an interesting and OVERDUE pick for us. Ballsy to say the least. Maybe too high for us to be looking at that position though.

01-11-2005, 04:45 PM	#2
4saintspirit 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 690	Now THIS is an interesting mock If we could get an Off Lineman, a cornerback, and a linebacker through trading Howard and using cap space to sign free agents that pick is exactly what I suggested in another thread. Get a young promising QB to 1) put pressure on Brooks - look what drafting Rivers did to Brees, and 2) give us an option for the next year. If Brooks turns out not to be the guy we have Smith with a year of knowing the system -- and we can trade Brooks and his fat contract -- or if Brooks shapes up we could probably still get a number one for Smith
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01-11-2005, 05:02 PM	#3
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Now THIS is an interesting mock I like it just to get rid of Leon, but that\'s just me. We could trade him right before we make that pick or right after to get more picks. He has had his chance, he isn\'t getting any better. I wish he was a Drew Brees. Every bit of competition he has had has been run out of town so the only way Smith truly gets a shot under Haslett is with Leon gone.

01-11-2005, 05:19 PM	#4
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	Now THIS is an interesting mock Right... In the first round we fail to take an OT or an LB... sure. The only way that happens is if we go APE SHIZNIT in FA, which we all know we won\'t. With E. Brown, Crowder, and Burnett all still available, do you really think you\'d be happy with a prospect QB who won\'t play for two or three years - while we are plagued with offensive penalties and the 32nd ranked defense? Your desire to get rid of \"Leon\" is clouding your vision Whodi. It is a ballsy call, but it isn\'t a smart one - not this year. What this suggests to me though, is that we could trade down a spot or two and maybe pick up a couple of extra picks or a serviceable second CB.
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01-11-2005, 05:23 PM	#5
4saintspirit 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 690	Now THIS is an interesting mock Right... In the first round we fail to take an OT or an LB... sure. The only way that happens is if we go APE SHIZNIT in FA, which we all know we won\'t. With E. Brown, Crowder, and Burnett all still available, do you really think you\'d be happy with a prospect QB who won\'t play for two or three years - while we are plagued with offensive penalties and the 32nd ranked defense? Your desire to get rid of \"Leon\" is clouding your vision Whodi. It is a ballsy call, but it isn\'t a smart one - not this year. What this suggests to me though, is that we could trade down a spot or two and maybe pick up a couple of extra picks or a serviceable second CB. My post had us getting a linebacker, Smoot and an Offensive lineman in FA (or through a trade of Howard). If that was the case I still think that Smith would be an excellent pick.
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01-11-2005, 05:24 PM	#6
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Now THIS is an interesting mock Thing is Kool, I don\'t think Smith is a project qb. I think he can come in and be better than the incumbent. I do think picking him in the first is a reach, but he has talent and we will see where he grades out after the combine. If you read my first post, it specifically said \"depending on what we do in free agency,\" meaning don\'t forego needs to get the guy, but if we have addressed LB and O-line in free agency, go for it. Maybe too high for us to be looking at that position though. Last line in the first post.

01-11-2005, 05:29 PM	#7
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	Now THIS is an interesting mock Whodi, I wasn\'t insulting your intelligence. I think we agree that this pick is NOT going to happen - that is all I was expressing. 4ss, I understood your point - that is why I wrote this: The only way that happens is if we go APE SHIZNIT in FA, which we all know we won\'t. Also, we probably need two LBs, a DT, and two OL to be competitive at this point. We\'re also going to need a safety very soon. Don\'t worry guys, I realize that it was a \"fantasy\" of sorts. I just wanted to be clear that I think that looking at a QB is nowhere near a priority for this team - even with a reasonable FA (which we haven\'t had in as long as I can remember, which we all know isn\'t that long). Apologies for writing in such a manner as to make you think I wasn\'t paying attention to what you were saying. I, for one, would be extremely unhappy if we took a QB in the first round, UNLESS A LOT of other things happen first. [Edited on 11/1/2005 by JKool]
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01-11-2005, 05:36 PM	#8
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Now THIS is an interesting mock I gotcha, I only think we need one lb though. And if we move Gandy to RT and get a decent LT, I think we could survive that for a year. DT is also a must. So I do agree with you. But we see how well this team has done getting DT\'s by any route(Sully, Jackson, Hand) so I don\'t have a lot of confidence there. One interesting name mentioned was Hovan from Minny. He is relatively Young and not far from being considered one of the league\'s best. Maybe we get him at a reasonable price, a star lb, sign and trade Howard for a good o-lineman liek Samuels from Wash or for Smoot, we could be in a position to take Smith. I would love it like a hog in slop.

01-11-2005, 06:35 PM	#9
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Now THIS is an interesting mock Ape what, JKool? Does the name Jonathon Sullivan ring a bell? :rollinglaugh:

01-11-2005, 06:56 PM	#10
FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	Now THIS is an interesting mock Yea lets draft a QB and start tha rebuilding process. GREAT IDEA!!! What retard came up with this mock!