Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks

|Mitch| · 03-11-2015, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo

If New England can do this stuff every year and make it to 6 Superbowls then we need to be able to do it too. That being said, if we get another Robert Meachem, Malcolm Jenkins, Kenny Vaccarro or Sedrick Ellis instead of a real player it will go down as one of the dumbest moves we've ever done.

Just think; if we get two pro-bowl players in the first! Or even 2 first year starters

Papa Voodoo · 03-11-2015, 12:49 PM

From reading their posts, the 12's don't seem too pumped about getting Jimmy.

CharityMike · 03-11-2015, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo

From reading their posts, the 12's don't seem too pumped about getting Jimmy.

Yeah, was just reading some myself and it seems the majority are not happy about giving up Unger and this years 1st.

darstep · 03-11-2015, 12:57 PM

They manned him up in Seattle, delayed his release and took him out of the game.
They are expecting the same from others, they pulled the covers off of JG.

Danno · 03-11-2015, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by darstep

They manned him up in Seattle, delayed his release and took him out of the game.
They are expecting the same from others, they pulled the covers off of JG.

In Jimmy's defense there are only a few teams capable of doing that. Seattle was one of the very few.

Mr.Riaton · 03-11-2015, 07:22 PM

I know some (not just this site)find it hard to accept this trade,but I think it was a very team first move. I'm gonna miss Graham,but I would rather give up 1 superstar to gain 2-4 good players that can contribute and keep us in the playoffs consistently than keep that one superstar who's basically declining in production because of injuries and his QB can't stay upright. Look around the league...alot of teams are releasing and trading top players. This happens every offseason,this off season seems to be more extreme than others. Doing this keeps teams competitive. It's gonna be nice next offseason to have that extra cushion with the cap,and just that alone makes the trade easier to swallow.

ChrisXVI · 03-11-2015, 08:29 PM

Go away dude... Nothing you say ever makes sense and it's getting old.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 03-11-2015, 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Go away dude... Nothing you say ever makes sense and it's getting old.

Chris, wishing this isn't going to make it so. It's challenging to be quiet when one thinks that the sky is falling.

So it's best to either let it go, or simply respond with facts. For example...

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx

Aww here we go defense defense defense!! What about all the 3 and outs on offense?What about the predictable play calling?

Yes, let's talk about the three and outs where Brees attempted a home run throw to Graham in double coverage.

What about the int's drew had?

Again often trying to fit the ball into double coverage, and again often to Graham.

What about the no pass protection or no run blocking we had?

So I guess that no run blocking resulted in Ingram finishing with nearly 1000 yards on 225 or so carries with a 4.3 YPC average. I wonder what could happen if the O-Line actually blocked.

The one area of agreement was pass blocking. Way too much pressure up the middle. Way too many breakdowns when Harris was playing. So don't you think getting a former All-Pro center will help that line to some degree?

Hey I can go and on. Last year defense sucked but offensively we didn't have it going on either. Imjs

Sorry. Have to disagree here. Tally up the games where the offense delivered a lead in the last 5 minutes or less of the game, only to have the defense give it away? Atlanta, Cleveland, San Francisco? admittedly the offense gave away the Lions game.

SFIAH

|Mitch| · 03-12-2015, 02:28 AM

Max Unger Flying Under Radar as Real Star of Blockbuster Trade | Bleacher Report

His impact in Seattle became obvious last season when he missed 10 games. As noted by Brian Nemhauser of Hawk Blogger, the Seahawks averaged 28.0 points in games with Unger on the field and just 21.7 without him. Seattle converted less in the red zone, averaged fewer yards per game and per play, and saw a significant dip in rushing outputs without its starting center.

jeanpierre · 03-11-2015, 10:26 PM

NFL free agency 2015 snaps: Did Drew Brees' contract impact Jimmy Graham deal? - NFL - SI.com

03-11-2015, 01:00 PM	#1
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo If New England can do this stuff every year and make it to 6 Superbowls then we need to be able to do it too. That being said, if we get another Robert Meachem, Malcolm Jenkins, Kenny Vaccarro or Sedrick Ellis instead of a real player it will go down as one of the dumbest moves we've ever done. Just think; if we get two pro-bowl players in the first! Or even 2 first year starters

03-11-2015, 12:49 PM	#2
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks From reading their posts, the 12's don't seem too pumped about getting Jimmy.

03-11-2015, 02:43 PM	#3
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo From reading their posts, the 12's don't seem too pumped about getting Jimmy. Yeah, was just reading some myself and it seems the majority are not happy about giving up Unger and this years 1st.

03-11-2015, 12:57 PM	#4
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks They manned him up in Seattle, delayed his release and took him out of the game. They are expecting the same from others, they pulled the covers off of JG.

03-11-2015, 06:42 PM	#5
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by darstep They manned him up in Seattle, delayed his release and took him out of the game. They are expecting the same from others, they pulled the covers off of JG. In Jimmy's defense there are only a few teams capable of doing that. Seattle was one of the very few.

03-11-2015, 07:22 PM	#6
Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,308	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks I know some (not just this site)find it hard to accept this trade,but I think it was a very team first move. I'm gonna miss Graham,but I would rather give up 1 superstar to gain 2-4 good players that can contribute and keep us in the playoffs consistently than keep that one superstar who's basically declining in production because of injuries and his QB can't stay upright. Look around the league...alot of teams are releasing and trading top players. This happens every offseason,this off season seems to be more extreme than others. Doing this keeps teams competitive. It's gonna be nice next offseason to have that extra cushion with the cap,and just that alone makes the trade easier to swallow.

03-11-2015, 08:29 PM	#7
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Go away dude... Nothing you say ever makes sense and it's getting old.

03-11-2015, 11:51 PM	#8
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Go away dude... Nothing you say ever makes sense and it's getting old. Chris, wishing this isn't going to make it so. It's challenging to be quiet when one thinks that the sky is falling. So it's best to either let it go, or simply respond with facts. For example... Originally Posted by teddybarexxx Aww here we go defense defense defense!! What about all the 3 and outs on offense?What about the predictable play calling? Yes, let's talk about the three and outs where Brees attempted a home run throw to Graham in double coverage. What about the int's drew had? Again often trying to fit the ball into double coverage, and again often to Graham. What about the no pass protection or no run blocking we had? So I guess that no run blocking resulted in Ingram finishing with nearly 1000 yards on 225 or so carries with a 4.3 YPC average. I wonder what could happen if the O-Line actually blocked. The one area of agreement was pass blocking. Way too much pressure up the middle. Way too many breakdowns when Harris was playing. So don't you think getting a former All-Pro center will help that line to some degree? Hey I can go and on. Last year defense sucked but offensively we didn't have it going on either. Imjs Sorry. Have to disagree here. Tally up the games where the offense delivered a lead in the last 5 minutes or less of the game, only to have the defense give it away? Atlanta, Cleveland, San Francisco? admittedly the offense gave away the Lions game. SFIAH
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03-12-2015, 02:28 AM	#9
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Max Unger Flying Under Radar as Real Star of Blockbuster Trade \| Bleacher Report His impact in Seattle became obvious last season when he missed 10 games. As noted by Brian Nemhauser of Hawk Blogger, the Seahawks averaged 28.0 points in games with Unger on the field and just 21.7 without him. Seattle converted less in the red zone, averaged fewer yards per game and per play, and saw a significant dip in rushing outputs without its starting center.
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03-11-2015, 10:26 PM	#10
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks NFL free agency 2015 snaps: Did Drew Brees' contract impact Jimmy Graham deal? - NFL - SI.com

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