Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks

lee909 · 03-11-2015, 03:24 AM

Teams dont generally want to give away 1st rounds picks these days,they are too valuable.Last years 31st pick(Robey Broncos) will get 7ml over 4 years and the Broncos also have a 5th year option

nola_swammi · 03-11-2015, 03:28 AM

Getting Jimmy Graham is not a giving away a 1st rd pick. If Jimmy Graham was in this year draft and teams know what they know now about him he would be a top 15th pick at the least

lee909 · 03-11-2015, 03:42 AM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

Getting Jimmy Graham is not a giving away a 1st rd pick. If Jimmy Graham was in this year draft and teams know what they know now about him he would be a top 15th pick at the least

No offence but it seems pointing out anything to you on why the team may be doing these moves. It appears you have decided that its the wrong move and there is no room for debate.

Do you really think the front office didnt think long and hard if this was a good move.

Jimmy Graham was and is a very good player but he will be 29 during the season and has taken a beating over the past 5 seasons. He hasn't missed many games but lets face it a fair few times out there he was a decoy and not much else. His foot injury impaired him big time a couple of years back and teams with big bodied CB have kept him quiet

Look at last season stats,any game that he had over 10 targets we losts
Look at 2013 when the Seahawks and Pats put physical corners on him he in three games 21 targets/4 recpetions for 50 yards.

Look i loved having Jimmy here and he is a great player but he Payton and Brees with a good O-Line one the superbowl with Shockey,Colston,Meachem Moore and Henderson as receivers. We needed a center and we got a good one. Is there question marks on his health? Yes, Is the same true of Graham? Yes.

Ashley · 03-11-2015, 03:37 AM

I like the move. At first just as shocked as everyone. But we need help, he was the only player on our team to track first round pick. We do need a lot of help, this is a smart move.

nola_swammi · 03-11-2015, 03:37 AM

That is all find for 2017 but the sale on the team producing need to be for this year. They want cap relief they must make better trades and draft better than they have been doing. Trading JG for a 31 pick in draft is dumb. They should've traded him last year after he had that stellar year or traded him this year for a 1st and conditional 5th to 7th rd pick

burningmetal · 03-11-2015, 03:43 AM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

That is all find for 2017 but the sale on the team producing need to be for this year. They want cap relief they must make better trades and draft better than they have been doing. Trading JG for a 31 pick in draft is dumb. They should've traded him last year after he had that stellar year or traded him this year for a 1st and conditional 5th to 7th rd pick

Guy, we got a top of the line Center AND that first round pick. You keep ignoring that, or trying to devalue that.

Other teams want to win, too. They know Jimmy can help, but not at the expense of throwing the farm at somebody to get him. I've seen teams get a lot less for their star players in the past.

nola_swammi · 03-11-2015, 03:48 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Guy, we got a top of the line Center AND that first round pick. You keep ignoring that, or trying to devalue that.

Other teams want to win, too. They know Jimmy can help, but not at the expense of throwing the farm at somebody to get him. I've seen teams get a lot less for their star players in the past.

I look at it as we gave a 4th rd pick for him when the priority should've been guard

burningmetal · 03-11-2015, 03:52 AM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

I look at it as we gave a 4th rd pick for him when the priority should've been guard

We HAVE guards. And now we have a center as well. A 4th round pick is a 4th round pick. We have two first rounders. I can't imagine what else you need here to be satisfied. I get it, Jimmy was popular here. I wish he could have stayed in a way as well. But let's take our fan glasses off and try to think about what's smart.

nola_swammi · 03-11-2015, 03:57 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

We HAVE guards. And now we have a center as well. A 4th round pick is a 4th round pick. We have two first rounders. I can't imagine what else you need here to be satisfied. I get it, Jimmy was popular here. I wish he could have stayed in a way as well. But let's take our fan glasses off and try to think about what's smart.

These are the times I think saints PR are in here to make things look like these were smart moves just like the draft of last year. How is that panning out by the way? 3 on the roster but 2 actually played

lee909 · 03-11-2015, 03:55 AM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

I look at it as we gave a 4th rd pick for him when the priority should've been guard

We know Evans was playing with a bum wrists,im no big fan of Grubbs but both of them trying to do there job while covering for Goodwin cant have helped them. If they team thought Lelito was the man he would have had the job. Maybe they just see him as a backup for all the interior spots.
I really think that coach wanted a top center otherwise he would have kept DLP last year. He let him walk for peanuts to Chicago and then didnt get the player in the draft he was interested in.

Wait and see what the rest of FA ad the draft brings.
Maybe we ship a guard to the Bills as has been rumoured then take Scherf or Collins in the first or laken tomlinson,Jackson.Marpet in the draft and beef up the line. Who knows

03-11-2015, 03:24 AM	#1
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Teams dont generally want to give away 1st rounds picks these days,they are too valuable.Last years 31st pick(Robey Broncos) will get 7ml over 4 years and the Broncos also have a 5th year option

03-11-2015, 03:28 AM	#2
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Getting Jimmy Graham is not a giving away a 1st rd pick. If Jimmy Graham was in this year draft and teams know what they know now about him he would be a top 15th pick at the least

03-11-2015, 03:42 AM	#3
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by nola_swammi Getting Jimmy Graham is not a giving away a 1st rd pick. If Jimmy Graham was in this year draft and teams know what they know now about him he would be a top 15th pick at the least No offence but it seems pointing out anything to you on why the team may be doing these moves. It appears you have decided that its the wrong move and there is no room for debate. Do you really think the front office didnt think long and hard if this was a good move. Jimmy Graham was and is a very good player but he will be 29 during the season and has taken a beating over the past 5 seasons. He hasn't missed many games but lets face it a fair few times out there he was a decoy and not much else. His foot injury impaired him big time a couple of years back and teams with big bodied CB have kept him quiet Look at last season stats,any game that he had over 10 targets we losts Look at 2013 when the Seahawks and Pats put physical corners on him he in three games 21 targets/4 recpetions for 50 yards. Look i loved having Jimmy here and he is a great player but he Payton and Brees with a good O-Line one the superbowl with Shockey,Colston,Meachem Moore and Henderson as receivers. We needed a center and we got a good one. Is there question marks on his health? Yes, Is the same true of Graham? Yes.
	"Two receivers to the left, Garcon to the right. Manning in the shotgun, puts Collie in motion. Looks in his direction...it's picked off! It's picked off! It's Tracy Porter again! He's runnin' free! He's gonna go all the way!

03-11-2015, 03:37 AM	#4
Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks I like the move. At first just as shocked as everyone. But we need help, he was the only player on our team to track first round pick. We do need a lot of help, this is a smart move.

03-11-2015, 03:37 AM	#5
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks That is all find for 2017 but the sale on the team producing need to be for this year. They want cap relief they must make better trades and draft better than they have been doing. Trading JG for a 31 pick in draft is dumb. They should've traded him last year after he had that stellar year or traded him this year for a 1st and conditional 5th to 7th rd pick

03-11-2015, 03:43 AM	#6
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by nola_swammi That is all find for 2017 but the sale on the team producing need to be for this year. They want cap relief they must make better trades and draft better than they have been doing. Trading JG for a 31 pick in draft is dumb. They should've traded him last year after he had that stellar year or traded him this year for a 1st and conditional 5th to 7th rd pick Guy, we got a top of the line Center AND that first round pick. You keep ignoring that, or trying to devalue that. Other teams want to win, too. They know Jimmy can help, but not at the expense of throwing the farm at somebody to get him. I've seen teams get a lot less for their star players in the past.

03-11-2015, 03:48 AM	#7
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by burningmetal Guy, we got a top of the line Center AND that first round pick. You keep ignoring that, or trying to devalue that. Other teams want to win, too. They know Jimmy can help, but not at the expense of throwing the farm at somebody to get him. I've seen teams get a lot less for their star players in the past. I look at it as we gave a 4th rd pick for him when the priority should've been guard

03-11-2015, 03:52 AM	#8
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by nola_swammi I look at it as we gave a 4th rd pick for him when the priority should've been guard We HAVE guards. And now we have a center as well. A 4th round pick is a 4th round pick. We have two first rounders. I can't imagine what else you need here to be satisfied. I get it, Jimmy was popular here. I wish he could have stayed in a way as well. But let's take our fan glasses off and try to think about what's smart.

03-11-2015, 03:57 AM	#9
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by burningmetal We HAVE guards. And now we have a center as well. A 4th round pick is a 4th round pick. We have two first rounders. I can't imagine what else you need here to be satisfied. I get it, Jimmy was popular here. I wish he could have stayed in a way as well. But let's take our fan glasses off and try to think about what's smart. These are the times I think saints PR are in here to make things look like these were smart moves just like the draft of last year. How is that panning out by the way? 3 on the roster but 2 actually played

03-11-2015, 03:55 AM	#10
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by nola_swammi I look at it as we gave a 4th rd pick for him when the priority should've been guard We know Evans was playing with a bum wrists,im no big fan of Grubbs but both of them trying to do there job while covering for Goodwin cant have helped them. If they team thought Lelito was the man he would have had the job. Maybe they just see him as a backup for all the interior spots. I really think that coach wanted a top center otherwise he would have kept DLP last year. He let him walk for peanuts to Chicago and then didnt get the player in the draft he was interested in. Wait and see what the rest of FA ad the draft brings. Maybe we ship a guard to the Bills as has been rumoured then take Scherf or Collins in the first or laken tomlinson,Jackson.Marpet in the draft and beef up the line. Who knows
	"Two receivers to the left, Garcon to the right. Manning in the shotgun, puts Collie in motion. Looks in his direction...it's picked off! It's picked off! It's Tracy Porter again! He's runnin' free! He's gonna go all the way!

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