I thought it was the defense that was the problem that needed fixing

CheramieIII · 03-14-2015, 12:21 PM

It is but going to a 60/40 run heavy offense we needed to ensure wr's were blockers first and also good receivers and that's why we added spiller. Cooks, Colston and Toon can handle the wr's just fine. Ellerbe filled middle linebacker and I'm sure we're not done yet on defense

Jamessr · 03-14-2015, 12:24 PM

The conerbacks alone will help with our passrush...
We just couldn't cover anyone last year for ****

rezburna · 03-14-2015, 12:34 PM

We've got two big, tall corners who can press and tackle. That'll give us time to allow the blitzes Ryan loves so much to get there. Like Danno said, the talent is there. Jordan, Bunkley/Jenkins, and Hicks doesn't sound like a great DL to y'all? How about Gallette and a true 3-4 LB in Ellerbe on the outside. Ellerbe is really fast for a LB too. I think he ran a 4.6. If anything, we just need some athletic ILB's.

Offensively, I wonder if Lelito will be our new LG or if we're still looking. I wanted Barksdale to take over at RT. As y'all know, I'm not a Strief fan. I do wonder if we could move Strief to Guard and let Barksdale play RT though. Our RB trio is pretty damn deadly right now.

Danno · 03-14-2015, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

We've got two big, tall corners who can press and tackle. That'll give us time to allow the blitzes Ryan loves so much to get there. Like Danno said, the talent is there. Jordan, Bunkley/Jenkins, and Hicks doesn't sound like a great DL to y'all? How about Gallette and a true 3-4 LB in Ellerbe on the outside. Ellerbe is really fast for a LB too. I think he ran a 4.6. If anything, we just need some athletic ILB's.

Offensively, I wonder if Lelito will be our new LG or if we're still looking. I wanted Barksdale to take over at RT. As y'all know, I'm not a Strief fan. I do wonder if we could move Strief to Guard and let Barksdale play RT though. Our RB trio is pretty damn deadly right now.

Strief at 6'-7 is too tall to play OG, especially with a 5-10 QB.

One thing NFL Radio gurus mentioned about Unger was how he concentrated on consistently staying low and keeping the DT's low since Seattle had a short QB. Its a perfect fit for Drew.

lee909 · 03-14-2015, 12:45 PM

I did read one reporter saying that the front office and coaches are quite high on Senio Kelemete,wether mean as a back up still learning or as a man that will fight for the job this year i dont know

rezburna · 03-14-2015, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Strief at 6'-7 is too tall to play OG, especially with a 5-10 QB.

One thing NFL Radio gurus mentioned about Unger was how he concentrated on consistently staying low and keeping the DT's low since Seattle had a short QB. Its a perfect fit for Drew.

True. True.

Rugby Saint II · 03-14-2015, 01:12 PM

We'll shore up the o-line in the draft. We may get a TE or WR in the draft as well. Besides that we need to go defense for most of our picks.

WhoDatFan26 · 03-14-2015, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by saintshrimp

I see a lot of change on offense this year. I don't so far to this point understand why not much has changed to the other side of the ball You know the Real problem area. Where's the fire sale of defensive players should have been. We have a lot of draft picks now but you know we are gonna move up from 13 (Don't we pretty much always make a trade to move up on draft day) just don't see how while I like browner he's 30 now so he's a band aide short term we need to find a long term solution and Ellerbe has had one good yr. His claim to fame is he took over for Ray lewis and to tell the truth I just don't see how that is much better than what we had.

I don't know call me crazy but I think they blew up the wrong side of the ball

Dannell Ellerbe is head and shoulders better than what we had Lofton included. He is the first true sideline to sideline LB we've had since Vilma was fully healthy. As far as Browner, his true value will come from his knowledge and the fact that he will help police the other DB's. As far as the D-Line I think they'll benefit from a healthy motivated Cameron Jordan, when he's right he is unblockable. I still would like to see us draft Perryman from The U with pick#31, then we would have 2 sideline to sideline LB's. Sheer talent can make up for schematic breakups. I trust what the coaching staff is doing because they're making changes for the better of the team going forward. And whatever problems Browner had off the field, he's never been a lockeroom distraction. This team will be lightyears better than last seasons.

Foot Stomper · 03-14-2015, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by saintshrimp

I see a lot of change on offense this year. I don't so far to this point understand why not much has changed to the other side of the ball You know the Real problem area. Where's the fire sale of defensive players should have been. We have a lot of draft picks now but you know we are gonna move up from 13 (Don't we pretty much always make a trade to move up on draft day) just don't see how while I like browner he's 30 now so he's a band aide short term we need to find a long term solution and Ellerbe has had one good yr. His claim to fame is he took over for Ray lewis and to tell the truth I just don't see how that is much better than what we had.

I don't know call me crazy but I think they blew up the wrong side of the ball

I think the masterpiece is not finished yet. 5 or so days into FA and we still have a draft and TC to go along with final roster cuts across the league.

ps love that avatar pic...nothing better than a hot partying babe!

blackangold · 03-14-2015, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

i would not think of Browner as the #2 CB after watching him last year. put him on those big slower WR and TE. A true #2 WR? heck no. he will get burned all game long. sorry he will never let himself get burned he will take the flag and mug the guy before he gets burned.

A solid #2 CB in the draft is still needed IMO

as for the rest we need to wait for the draft to see what we got done, way to many players leaving from a position and way too many players added that do not fill those position.

so far i am holding my breath. it could be great or could go south real quick

You're crazy...

Browner is just as good as Lewis, they both could be number 1s on many teams. This was a great move for the locker-room as well.

Dion Sanders said we now have the best CB tandem in the league, when taking about CBs ill take his word over yours.

You realize he had everything thrown at him last year because Revis was on the other side right? Before that he had Sherman on the other side so he was still targeted all day. Two superbowls in two years... and for all this over-the-top BS, I am sure Byrd will love that...

As for your last sentence "could go south real quick", you can say that about anything.

03-14-2015, 12:21 PM	#11
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03-14-2015, 12:24 PM	#12
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03-14-2015, 12:34 PM	#13
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03-14-2015, 12:39 PM	#14
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: I thought it was the defense that was the problem that needed fixing Originally Posted by rezburna We've got two big, tall corners who can press and tackle. That'll give us time to allow the blitzes Ryan loves so much to get there. Like Danno said, the talent is there. Jordan, Bunkley/Jenkins, and Hicks doesn't sound like a great DL to y'all? How about Gallette and a true 3-4 LB in Ellerbe on the outside. Ellerbe is really fast for a LB too. I think he ran a 4.6. If anything, we just need some athletic ILB's. Offensively, I wonder if Lelito will be our new LG or if we're still looking. I wanted Barksdale to take over at RT. As y'all know, I'm not a Strief fan. I do wonder if we could move Strief to Guard and let Barksdale play RT though. Our RB trio is pretty damn deadly right now. Strief at 6'-7 is too tall to play OG, especially with a 5-10 QB. One thing NFL Radio gurus mentioned about Unger was how he concentrated on consistently staying low and keeping the DT's low since Seattle had a short QB. Its a perfect fit for Drew. Foot Stomper likes this.

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03-14-2015, 01:04 PM	#16
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,935	Re: I thought it was the defense that was the problem that needed fixing Originally Posted by Danno Strief at 6'-7 is too tall to play OG, especially with a 5-10 QB. One thing NFL Radio gurus mentioned about Unger was how he concentrated on consistently staying low and keeping the DT's low since Seattle had a short QB. Its a perfect fit for Drew. True. True.

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WhoDatFan26 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 365	Re: I thought it was the defense that was the problem that needed fixing Originally Posted by saintshrimp I see a lot of change on offense this year. I don't so far to this point understand why not much has changed to the other side of the ball You know the Real problem area. Where's the fire sale of defensive players should have been. We have a lot of draft picks now but you know we are gonna move up from 13 (Don't we pretty much always make a trade to move up on draft day) just don't see how while I like browner he's 30 now so he's a band aide short term we need to find a long term solution and Ellerbe has had one good yr. His claim to fame is he took over for Ray lewis and to tell the truth I just don't see how that is much better than what we had. I don't know call me crazy but I think they blew up the wrong side of the ball Dannell Ellerbe is head and shoulders better than what we had Lofton included. He is the first true sideline to sideline LB we've had since Vilma was fully healthy. As far as Browner, his true value will come from his knowledge and the fact that he will help police the other DB's. As far as the D-Line I think they'll benefit from a healthy motivated Cameron Jordan, when he's right he is unblockable. I still would like to see us draft Perryman from The U with pick#31, then we would have 2 sideline to sideline LB's. Sheer talent can make up for schematic breakups. I trust what the coaching staff is doing because they're making changes for the better of the team going forward. And whatever problems Browner had off the field, he's never been a lockeroom distraction. This team will be lightyears better than last seasons. Danno likes this.
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Foot Stomper Carolina Sucks Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Greensboro NC Posts: 379	Re: I thought it was the defense that was the problem that needed fixing Originally Posted by saintshrimp I see a lot of change on offense this year. I don't so far to this point understand why not much has changed to the other side of the ball You know the Real problem area. Where's the fire sale of defensive players should have been. We have a lot of draft picks now but you know we are gonna move up from 13 (Don't we pretty much always make a trade to move up on draft day) just don't see how while I like browner he's 30 now so he's a band aide short term we need to find a long term solution and Ellerbe has had one good yr. His claim to fame is he took over for Ray lewis and to tell the truth I just don't see how that is much better than what we had. I don't know call me crazy but I think they blew up the wrong side of the ball I think the masterpiece is not finished yet. 5 or so days into FA and we still have a draft and TC to go along with final roster cuts across the league. ps love that avatar pic...nothing better than a hot partying babe!

03-14-2015, 01:41 PM	#20
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: I thought it was the defense that was the problem that needed fixing Originally Posted by hagan714 i would not think of Browner as the #2 CB after watching him last year. put him on those big slower WR and TE. A true #2 WR? heck no. he will get burned all game long. sorry he will never let himself get burned he will take the flag and mug the guy before he gets burned. A solid #2 CB in the draft is still needed IMO as for the rest we need to wait for the draft to see what we got done, way to many players leaving from a position and way too many players added that do not fill those position. so far i am holding my breath. it could be great or could go south real quick You're crazy... Browner is just as good as Lewis, they both could be number 1s on many teams. This was a great move for the locker-room as well. Dion Sanders said we now have the best CB tandem in the league, when taking about CBs ill take his word over yours. You realize he had everything thrown at him last year because Revis was on the other side right? Before that he had Sherman on the other side so he was still targeted all day. Two superbowls in two years... and for all this over-the-top BS, I am sure Byrd will love that... As for your last sentence "could go south real quick", you can say that about anything. hagan714 likes this.

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