I thought it was the defense that was the problem that needed fixing

spkb25 · 03-15-2015, 07:24 AM

Saintshrimp being shopped to other teams.

lee909 · 03-15-2015, 07:27 AM

CFL is calling

alleycat_126 · 03-15-2015, 09:26 AM

There have been just as many releases on defense as on the offensive side of the ball... Lofton, White, and Robinson..... all gone...And, here's what I heard about the Jimmy Graham trade... is that Jimmy Grahams name wasn't the first name floated... The first name floated was Cameron Jordan... Seattle said no... So it's not like there not trying to unload some of there defensive players...

The bigger gaping whole to me has been the whole that exist because we don't have a true NT to this 3-4 defense... Teams where able to exploit the fact that we couldn't stop the run all year long after Brodrick Bunkley went down... I think the need for a Nose Tackle even supercedes the need for a speed LB... We can't get to those third and long situations because we have safeties playing LB and no NT to protect them from having to do it....

halloween 65 · 03-15-2015, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by alleycat_126

There have been just as many releases on defense as on the offensive side of the ball... Lofton, White, and Robinson..... all gone...And, here's what I heard about the Jimmy Graham trade... is that Jimmy Grahams name wasn't the first name floated... The first name floated was Cameron Jordan... Seattle said no... So it's not like there not trying to unload some of there defensive players...

The bigger gaping whole to me has been the whole that exist because we don't have a true NT to this 3-4 defense... Teams where able to exploit the fact that we couldn't stop the run all year long after Brodrick Bunkley went down... I think the need for a Nose Tackle even supercedes the need for a speed LB... We can't get to those third and long situations because we have safeties playing LB and no NT to protect them from having to do it....

I agree. If we run a 3-4 Jordan is a little light up front. I can't agree more about a true NT being needed. Jordan Phillips from Oklahoma fits that bill. I also think with the addition of Ellerbe drafting Miami's Perryman would make perfect since at ILB, run problem up the middle fixed along with D-line and lb. rotation.

lee909 · 03-15-2015, 09:56 AM

I heard a fair amount of both Kenny Vacarro and Cam Jordan to the Giants.
Especially Cam rumor

halloween 65 · 03-15-2015, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

I heard a fair amount of both Kenny Vacarro and Cam Jordan to the Giants.
Especially Cam rumor

It wouldn't suprize me to see Jordan traded, he has really good value to a 4-3 team.

K Major · 03-15-2015, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

I heard a fair amount of both Kenny Vacarro and Cam Jordan to the Giants.
Especially Cam rumor

Source?

spkb25 · 03-15-2015, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Source?

I know the cam Jordan to giants trade rumor was all over twitter and there were multiple sources reporting it, but I have heard nothing since. That was the same day we traded Jimmy.

I never heard mention of Kenny at all

lee909 · 03-15-2015, 10:05 AM

You would have to wonder what a team would give for a player that will be a FA next summer.

spkb25 · 03-15-2015, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

You would have to wonder what a team would give for a player that will be a FA next summer.

Cameron Jordan, I think we might get a first, if not a first than a second or third and a player

03-15-2015, 07:24 AM	#1
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alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Re: I thought it was the defense that was the problem that needed fixing There have been just as many releases on defense as on the offensive side of the ball... Lofton, White, and Robinson..... all gone...And, here's what I heard about the Jimmy Graham trade... is that Jimmy Grahams name wasn't the first name floated... The first name floated was Cameron Jordan... Seattle said no... So it's not like there not trying to unload some of there defensive players... The bigger gaping whole to me has been the whole that exist because we don't have a true NT to this 3-4 defense... Teams where able to exploit the fact that we couldn't stop the run all year long after Brodrick Bunkley went down... I think the need for a Nose Tackle even supercedes the need for a speed LB... We can't get to those third and long situations because we have safeties playing LB and no NT to protect them from having to do it.... halloween 65 likes this.
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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: I thought it was the defense that was the problem that needed fixing Originally Posted by alleycat_126 There have been just as many releases on defense as on the offensive side of the ball... Lofton, White, and Robinson..... all gone...And, here's what I heard about the Jimmy Graham trade... is that Jimmy Grahams name wasn't the first name floated... The first name floated was Cameron Jordan... Seattle said no... So it's not like there not trying to unload some of there defensive players... The bigger gaping whole to me has been the whole that exist because we don't have a true NT to this 3-4 defense... Teams where able to exploit the fact that we couldn't stop the run all year long after Brodrick Bunkley went down... I think the need for a Nose Tackle even supercedes the need for a speed LB... We can't get to those third and long situations because we have safeties playing LB and no NT to protect them from having to do it.... I agree. If we run a 3-4 Jordan is a little light up front. I can't agree more about a true NT being needed. Jordan Phillips from Oklahoma fits that bill. I also think with the addition of Ellerbe drafting Miami's Perryman would make perfect since at ILB, run problem up the middle fixed along with D-line and lb. rotation.

03-15-2015, 09:56 AM	#5
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: I thought it was the defense that was the problem that needed fixing I heard a fair amount of both Kenny Vacarro and Cam Jordan to the Giants. Especially Cam rumor

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: I thought it was the defense that was the problem that needed fixing Originally Posted by lee909 I heard a fair amount of both Kenny Vacarro and Cam Jordan to the Giants. Especially Cam rumor It wouldn't suprize me to see Jordan traded, he has really good value to a 4-3 team.

03-15-2015, 11:59 AM	#7
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,867 Blog Entries: 3	Re: I thought it was the defense that was the problem that needed fixing Originally Posted by lee909 I heard a fair amount of both Kenny Vacarro and Cam Jordan to the Giants. Especially Cam rumor Source?

03-15-2015, 12:02 PM	#8
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: I thought it was the defense that was the problem that needed fixing Originally Posted by K Major Source? I know the cam Jordan to giants trade rumor was all over twitter and there were multiple sources reporting it, but I have heard nothing since. That was the same day we traded Jimmy. I never heard mention of Kenny at all

03-15-2015, 10:05 AM	#9
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: I thought it was the defense that was the problem that needed fixing You would have to wonder what a team would give for a player that will be a FA next summer.

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: I thought it was the defense that was the problem that needed fixing Originally Posted by lee909 You would have to wonder what a team would give for a player that will be a FA next summer. Cameron Jordan, I think we might get a first, if not a first than a second or third and a player

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