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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by dizzle88 Certain units underachieve because certain players aren't doing their jobs In 2013 Junior and Jordan both benefited from people like Akiem Hicks getting a massive push up the middle, it means that the QB cannot step ...
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03-25-2015, 05:30 PM | #11 |
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Originally Posted by dizzle88
This is why I wouldn't mind moving up to get Shelton... If by some miracle he falls to 13 we better take the guy. Shelton would be a game-changer for us.
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Re: New Orleans Saints, defensive lineman Cameron Jordan working on contract extension
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In theory they should feed off each other... A secondary who can cover just a second or two longer gives the front 7 that added extra time hence the term "coverage" sack...
Likewise if the front 7 seven are getting decent pressure on the QB, can make a struggling secondary appear better than they actually are... |
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Agree about that in the passing game but it still leaves the run game which we were eaten alive last season. I don't think we have shut down CB's Lewis is close but our #2 and #3 needs to be as effective to make that work.
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03-25-2015, 06:15 PM | #15 |
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Re: New Orleans Saints, defensive lineman Cameron Jordan working on contract extension
hopefully we have learned not to overpay this position Grant/Smith/Gallette
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03-25-2015, 07:46 PM | #16 |
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Re: New Orleans Saints, defensive lineman Cameron Jordan working on contract extension
Originally Posted by dizzle88
Hicks can only do so much when the NT does not require dbl teams. it all starts in the middle and works it way outward. Our NT was handled all season long by just one blocker. that is a huge issue.
Jr does not require double teams so that leaves everyone to block hicks on that side of the line. get NT solved and the rest will fall into line. till then the front 3 of the saints will be a bunch of push overs. |
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Re: New Orleans Saints, defensive lineman Cameron Jordan working on contract extension
Someone like Shelton would be a dream at 13 and then to add an ILB like Anthony or McKinney in the 2nd round would already make that front 7 a whole lot better.
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Re: New Orleans Saints, defensive lineman Cameron Jordan working on contract extension
He isn't in the same universe as JJ Watt. He's an average to slight above average DE but not great and certainly not even close to a JJ Watt talent. He has ONE above average year out of 4! He is a solid DE but isn't a superstar talent.
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Re: New Orleans Saints, defensive lineman Cameron Jordan working on contract extension
We only line up in a 3-4 about 33% of the time so we really need to stop analyzing these players as they relate to our "base" defense. Jordan and Hicks hardly ever line up as 5 techniques.
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Re: New Orleans Saints, defensive lineman Cameron Jordan working on contract extension
I do agree with that statement, now my question is why get 3-4 players that excel in a 3-4 and put them in a 4-3 or 4-3 players that don't excell in a 3-4. Why not get players that fit the scheme and beef it up from there. Recent examples, Byrd and Ellerby 3-4 players at their best. Hawthorn 3-4. Jordan 4-3 it makes our D weak.
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