New Orleans Saints, defensive lineman Cameron Jordan working on contract extension

03-25-2015, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I do agree with that statement, now my question is why get 3-4 players that excel in a 3-4 and put them in a 4-3 or 4-3 players that don't excell in a 3-4. Why not get players that fit the scheme and beef it up from there. Recent examples, Byrd and Ellerby 3-4 players at their best. Hawthorn 3-4. Jordan 4-3 it makes our D weak.

I couldn't tell ya man. I'm so jealous of teams that can just line up in their base defense and impose their will on an offense. With us it's like "Let's use multiple safeties" or "Let's use an amoeba defense where we have no down linemen even though none of the players out there will be able to make a play."

FinSaint · 03-25-2015, 09:28 PM

Maybe I remember this wrong, but didn't Jordan play in a 3-4 defense in college?

At least I remember people saying that he would fit better in the Saints' defense after the signs indicated that they were moving towards a 3-4 look from GG's 4-3.

K Major · 03-25-2015, 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

This is why I wouldn't mind moving up to get Shelton... If by some miracle he falls to 13 we better take the guy. Shelton would be a game-changer for us.

I felt the same way about Sedric Ellis coming out of USC. Thought he was a 'can't miss' player. Didn't we move up to get him?

But yes, I get it with Shelton. He is a force in the middle.

ChrisXVI · 03-25-2015, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Maybe I remember this wrong, but didn't Jordan play in a 3-4 defense in college?

At least I remember people saying that he would fit better in the Saints' defense after the signs indicated that they were moving towards a 3-4 look from GG's 4-3.

He did indeed... And he would probably dominate on a regular basis if he played most of his snaps at the 5 technique. Unfortunately though he's spent the vast majority of his pro career lined up at left DE in 4 man fronts even though we've supposedly been a 3-4 defense for two years.

WhoDatFan26 · 03-25-2015, 09:50 PM

This is a great signing. Cam is a cornerstone of the D-Line and he draws a double team wherever he lines up on the D-Liine. Get him signed now while he has little leverage and that way you don't have to overpay him like we did with Jimmy. As fas as everyone saying that he's too light in the pants, Cameron Jordan is 6'4, 287 lbs, JJ Watt is 6'5 289 lbs. Please stop saying that he's light in the pants. he is the right size and has the ability to provide adequate pressure. Now did he underwhelm last year? Yes he did and I'm sure he knows this. But please stop saying he's too small to play the position. If we put him on the trading blck, the phone wouldn't stop ringing for this guy. I guarantee if we can get another True 5-Technique DE to play opposite him instead of a NT/DT in Akiem, we would see just how good Cam is.

WhoDatFan26 · 03-25-2015, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Maybe I remember this wrong, but didn't Jordan play in a 3-4 defense in college?

At least I remember people saying that he would fit better in the Saints' defense after the signs indicated that they were moving towards a 3-4 look from GG's 4-3.

Yes Sir you are correct. Cam was a 3-4 5 Technique at Cal. And a darn good one, good enough that Bill Belicheck and The Patriots were looking at him if we didn't draft him.

03-25-2015, 08:52 PM	#21
Threaded by ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by halloween 65 I do agree with that statement, now my question is why get 3-4 players that excel in a 3-4 and put them in a 4-3 or 4-3 players that don't excell in a 3-4. Why not get players that fit the scheme and beef it up from there. Recent examples, Byrd and Ellerby 3-4 players at their best. Hawthorn 3-4. Jordan 4-3 it makes our D weak. I couldn't tell ya man. I'm so jealous of teams that can just line up in their base defense and impose their will on an offense. With us it's like "Let's use multiple safeties" or "Let's use an amoeba defense where we have no down linemen even though none of the players out there will be able to make a play." halloween 65 likes this.
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03-25-2015, 09:28 PM	#22
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: New Orleans Saints, defensive lineman Cameron Jordan working on contract extension Maybe I remember this wrong, but didn't Jordan play in a 3-4 defense in college? At least I remember people saying that he would fit better in the Saints' defense after the signs indicated that they were moving towards a 3-4 look from GG's 4-3. WhoDatFan26 likes this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: New Orleans Saints, defensive lineman Cameron Jordan working on contract extension Originally Posted by blackangold This is why I wouldn't mind moving up to get Shelton... If by some miracle he falls to 13 we better take the guy. Shelton would be a game-changer for us. I felt the same way about Sedric Ellis coming out of USC. Thought he was a 'can't miss' player. Didn't we move up to get him? But yes, I get it with Shelton. He is a force in the middle.

03-25-2015, 09:45 PM	#24
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: New Orleans Saints, defensive lineman Cameron Jordan working on contract extension Originally Posted by FinSaint Maybe I remember this wrong, but didn't Jordan play in a 3-4 defense in college? At least I remember people saying that he would fit better in the Saints' defense after the signs indicated that they were moving towards a 3-4 look from GG's 4-3. He did indeed... And he would probably dominate on a regular basis if he played most of his snaps at the 5 technique. Unfortunately though he's spent the vast majority of his pro career lined up at left DE in 4 man fronts even though we've supposedly been a 3-4 defense for two years. WhoDatFan26 likes this.

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WhoDatFan26 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 365	Re: New Orleans Saints, defensive lineman Cameron Jordan working on contract extension This is a great signing. Cam is a cornerstone of the D-Line and he draws a double team wherever he lines up on the D-Liine. Get him signed now while he has little leverage and that way you don't have to overpay him like we did with Jimmy. As fas as everyone saying that he's too light in the pants, Cameron Jordan is 6'4, 287 lbs, JJ Watt is 6'5 289 lbs. Please stop saying that he's light in the pants. he is the right size and has the ability to provide adequate pressure. Now did he underwhelm last year? Yes he did and I'm sure he knows this. But please stop saying he's too small to play the position. If we put him on the trading blck, the phone wouldn't stop ringing for this guy. I guarantee if we can get another True 5-Technique DE to play opposite him instead of a NT/DT in Akiem, we would see just how good Cam is.
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WhoDatFan26 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 365	Re: New Orleans Saints, defensive lineman Cameron Jordan working on contract extension Originally Posted by FinSaint Maybe I remember this wrong, but didn't Jordan play in a 3-4 defense in college? At least I remember people saying that he would fit better in the Saints' defense after the signs indicated that they were moving towards a 3-4 look from GG's 4-3. Yes Sir you are correct. Cam was a 3-4 5 Technique at Cal. And a darn good one, good enough that Bill Belicheck and The Patriots were looking at him if we didn't draft him.
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