Saints' Rob Ryan and Dennis Allen Are A Good Combo

WhoDat!656 · 05-31-2015, 09:20 AM

The New Orleans Saints have found the right combination heading into the 2015 season for their ailing defense and it appears to be defensive coordinator Rob Ryan and defensive assistant Dennis Allen.

Saints' Rob Ryan and Dennis Allen Are A Good Combo

Euphoria · 05-31-2015, 10:16 AM

We will see... the proof is on the field.

Danno · 05-31-2015, 10:28 AM

Too many times last year, players were asked to execute multiple roles in an attempt to “confuse” the opposing offense, but instead did the opposite and confused the Saints defense.

Fundamentals like tackling became a lost art which Allen has seen to correct with even being spotted manning a tackling pad himself for instruction with the defensive back group on Thursday’s OTA’s.

While Ryan has the ideas that will hopefully get the Saints defense back on track, Allen will be there to sift through the ones that are doable and ones that most likely won’t be feasible.

The dynamic of having Ryan and Allen both essentially splitting defensive coordinator duties may seem a bit like overkill, but in the end they could prove to be just the right combination the defense needs in 2015……

My favorite part. On paper it does look like a good teaming. Lets just hope their egos don't clash in some sort of power struggle.

Foot Stomper · 05-31-2015, 03:39 PM

What a great thing it will be if they fix the Defense. I still wonder if they fixed the gutless team that quit on us last year. Was that all scheme and Rob Ryans fault? Doubtful.

Rugby Saint II · 06-01-2015, 02:31 PM

Dennis Allen is my favorite off season addition. Ryan needed a handler!

saintsfan1976 · 06-01-2015, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

My favorite part. On paper it does look like a good teaming. Lets just hope their egos don't clash in some sort of power struggle.

IMO, Ryan's strength is X's and O's - NOT being the all-encompassing head coach of a defense.

I'll bet Ryan agrees Allen's "influence" will make his life easier and more successful one in New Orleans.

Allen will be to Ryan what Payton is to Carmichael.

Euphoria · 06-01-2015, 02:51 PM

I disagree about the X's and O'x part. I think he is more a players coach but that is it. There was all this hype last off-season about the new revamp D. Look was much like that of Seattle's Diamond / box coverage and we saw NONE of it. I wasn't impressed and well no one was impressed with him last year.

saintsfan1976 · 06-01-2015, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

I disagree about the X's and O'x part. I think he is more a players coach but that is it. There was all this hype last off-season about the new revamp D. Look was much like that of Seattle's Diamond / box coverage and we saw NONE of it. I wasn't impressed and well no one was impressed with him last year.

I think you may have made my point for me.

Ryan is good at drawing up plays and confusing offenses. Case in point - 2013

Ryan is not good at managing the lifecycle of a defense. Case in point - 2014

hagan714 · 06-01-2015, 08:13 PM

this might be just what the Dr order for Rob.

saintsfan1976 · 06-01-2015, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

this might be just what the Dr order for Rob.

And for Payton.

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WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,046	Saints' Rob Ryan and Dennis Allen Are A Good Combo The New Orleans Saints have found the right combination heading into the 2015 season for their ailing defense and it appears to be defensive coordinator Rob Ryan and defensive assistant Dennis Allen. Saints' Rob Ryan and Dennis Allen Are A Good Combo

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Saints' Rob Ryan and Dennis Allen Are A Good Combo Too many times last year, players were asked to execute multiple roles in an attempt to “confuse” the opposing offense, but instead did the opposite and confused the Saints defense. Fundamentals like tackling became a lost art which Allen has seen to correct with even being spotted manning a tackling pad himself for instruction with the defensive back group on Thursday’s OTA’s. While Ryan has the ideas that will hopefully get the Saints defense back on track, Allen will be there to sift through the ones that are doable and ones that most likely won’t be feasible. The dynamic of having Ryan and Allen both essentially splitting defensive coordinator duties may seem a bit like overkill, but in the end they could prove to be just the right combination the defense needs in 2015…… My favorite part. On paper it does look like a good teaming. Lets just hope their egos don't clash in some sort of power struggle.

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Foot Stomper Carolina Sucks Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Greensboro NC Posts: 379	Re: Saints' Rob Ryan and Dennis Allen Are A Good Combo What a great thing it will be if they fix the Defense. I still wonder if they fixed the gutless team that quit on us last year. Was that all scheme and Rob Ryans fault? Doubtful.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints' Rob Ryan and Dennis Allen Are A Good Combo Originally Posted by Danno My favorite part. On paper it does look like a good teaming. Lets just hope their egos don't clash in some sort of power struggle. IMO, Ryan's strength is X's and O's - NOT being the all-encompassing head coach of a defense. I'll bet Ryan agrees Allen's "influence" will make his life easier and more successful one in New Orleans. Allen will be to Ryan what Payton is to Carmichael. hagan714 likes this.

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints' Rob Ryan and Dennis Allen Are A Good Combo I disagree about the X's and O'x part. I think he is more a players coach but that is it. There was all this hype last off-season about the new revamp D. Look was much like that of Seattle's Diamond / box coverage and we saw NONE of it. I wasn't impressed and well no one was impressed with him last year.

06-01-2015, 05:45 PM	#8
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints' Rob Ryan and Dennis Allen Are A Good Combo Originally Posted by Euphoria I disagree about the X's and O'x part. I think he is more a players coach but that is it. There was all this hype last off-season about the new revamp D. Look was much like that of Seattle's Diamond / box coverage and we saw NONE of it. I wasn't impressed and well no one was impressed with him last year. I think you may have made my point for me. Ryan is good at drawing up plays and confusing offenses. Case in point - 2013 Ryan is not good at managing the lifecycle of a defense. Case in point - 2014

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints' Rob Ryan and Dennis Allen Are A Good Combo Originally Posted by hagan714 this might be just what the Dr order for Rob. And for Payton.

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