Deuce is lazy?

GumboBC · 01-31-2005, 08:12 PM

Deuce is fine, down season but was injured and the line had few holes for him to run, this happens to the best of R.B\'s, you\'ll see he\'ll bounce back, just hope we keep him for a while, if he plays most of his career in N.O he\'ll go down as the best R.B in Saints history, and to answer the question no he\'s not lazy, in fact everything I heard was that he worked hard day in and day out, first time I hear these comments of him being lazy

Deuce plays with a lot of heart. But he looks out of shape to me. A little on the chubby side. Of all the top backs, Deuce is the least muscular.

He\'s also not had the speed the last couple of years that he once had.

Deuce came into camp overweight and was told to drop a few pounds.

Haslett didn\'t fire the runningback coach because he thought Deuce was playing up to his potential.

But, I agree. Deuce seems to be the kind of player that will bounce back.

ScottyRo · 01-31-2005, 08:13 PM

LTF and LB, there\'s a thread about researching a couple of seasons gone by. I thought you two would have plenty of good stories from those particular years. Maybe you\'d share a couple of them with us?

Here\'s the link to the thread in case it gets buried before you see it.

http://www.blackandgold.net/site/mod...hread&tid=7808

ScottyRo · 01-31-2005, 08:15 PM

Deuce plays with a lot of heart. But he looks out of shape to me. A little on the chubby side. Of all the top backs, Deuce is the least muscular.

Did you ever see Barry Sanders? He was not ripped at all. Nearly as flabby as me...well maybe not nearly that bad but not in tiptop shape from a visual standpoint. Didn\'t seem to hurt him any.

GumboBC · 01-31-2005, 08:25 PM

Deuce plays with a lot of heart. But he looks out of shape to me. A little on the chubby side. Of all the top backs, Deuce is the least muscular.

Did you ever see Barry Sanders? He was not ripped at all. Nearly as flabby as me...well maybe not nearly that bad but not in tiptop shape from a visual standpoint. Didn\'t seem to hurt him any.

Maybe I\'m wrong Scotty. But Deuce looks like he would be better served if he bulked up with muscle rather than fat.

The extra weight also might be contributing to some of those injuries too.

Haslett has asked Deuce to try and lose 2 pounds for every year he\'s in the league. To help prevent injury.

Instead, Deuce has gained weight and he\'s getting to have injury problems.

FireVenturi · 01-31-2005, 08:38 PM

Don\'t shoot the messanger. I didn\'t write the article.

No, you just took what one person called work ethics, and translated it into lazy, and then double-posted a very degrading remark about one of the few people from our team who has had more than one trip to the pro-bowl.

A bad work ethic and lazy are the same thing

Saint_LB · 01-31-2005, 08:47 PM

LTF and LB, there\'s a thread about researching a couple of seasons gone by. I thought you two would have plenty of good stories from those particular years. Maybe you\'d share a couple of them with us?

Here\'s the link to the thread in case it gets buried before you see it.

http://www.blackandgold.net/site/mod...hread&tid=7808

Sorry, I can remember a lot of stories, it is just hard to put them to an exact season without going back and seeing exactly what happened those years. In regards to 1979...that may have been the year that we finished 8-8, and were on the verge of our very first winning season. If that is the year, then the biggest story I can remember from that season was that we were playing Oakland on a Monday night, and all we needed was a win that night to clinch a playoff spot. We were way up, something like 31-7, at halftime. For some reason Stabler was not playing that night in the first half, but was inserted into the game to start the second half. The Raiders came all the way back with Stabler at QB, and ended up winning something like 38-34. I think we had another game left after that one, but ended up losing that one, thus leaving us 8-8 for the season. Again, I am just trying to go from memory.

The guy from Ca. was talking about wanting to know specific stories regarding a couple of teams, one being the Redskins. I can remember one story, where we were playing the Skins, and needed to win that game to get in the playoffs. Late in the game, we were driving for what would have been a game winning score and getting us in, and had just completed a long pass for a first down that would\'ve put us deep in their territory with a first down. At the end of the play, Dexter Manley spit on Jim Dumbrowski, and, of course, the refs didn\'t see that part. Dumbo retaliated, and, of course, they saw that, and gave us a 15 yd. unsportsmanlike conduct penalty, thus, stopping the drive, stopping the win, and leaving us once again on the outside looking in. Again, I don\'t remember the years so well, just the stories.

Saint_LB · 01-31-2005, 08:53 PM

A bad work ethic and lazy are the same thing

Are you sure about that? Could a person be continuously late for work, or, work on the wrong things tirelessly, and still have bad work ethics?

LongTimeFan · 01-31-2005, 08:54 PM

Scotty, I was just like 12 years old in 79\' and I wasn\'t a fan untill like 85-86 when Mora came in a the coach, we fans now gripe at times with the Saints but just think how the die-hard fans felt with the Saints back then, Archie was the only player
that truly gave them hopes of winning, I would love to get a copy of the book once he completes it, let me know when it will be ready for sell, any idea when that could be RB Chuck Muncie (1979) became first Saint to surpass 1,000-yards finishing the season with 1,198 yards, I looked this one up because my brother talks of him as much as he does of Archie

[Edited on 1/2/2005 by LongTimeFan]

FireVenturi · 01-31-2005, 08:56 PM

A bad work ethic and lazy are the same thing

Are you sure about that? Could a person be continuously late for work, or, work on the wrong things tirelessly, and still have bad work ethics?

Lateness is a dependabilty issue, working on wrong things is probably lack of experience. Work Ethic is knowing what you have to do to improve ur situation and not doing it(LAZY)

Saint_LB · 01-31-2005, 09:09 PM

[quote:f0c4b5a91f]A bad work ethic and lazy are the same thing

Are you sure about that? Could a person be continuously late for work, or, work on the wrong things tirelessly, and still have bad work ethics?

Lateness is a dependabilty issue, working on wrong things is probably lack of experience. Work Ethic is knowing what you have to do to improve ur situation and not doing it(LAZY) [/quote

Pronunciation: \'e-thik
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English ethik, from Middle French ethique, from Latin ethice, from Greek EthikE, from Ethikos
1 plural but singular or plural in construction : the discipline dealing with what is good and bad and with moral duty and obligation
2 a : a set of moral principles or values b : a theory or system of moral values <the present-day materialistic ethic> c plural but singular or plural in construction : the principles of conduct governing an individual or a group <professional ethics> d : a guiding philosophy

pay particular attention to the part that says the principles of conduct governing an individual or a group

I don\'t see the word lazy in there anywhere. I am not saying that laziness isn\'t one example of bad work ethicss, but it is not the only definition. Showing up late for work would fall under the category of conduct, as working on the wrong things at work, tirelessly, would fall into that category, as well. Let\'s say that I came to work and immediately got on my computer and typed all day long in the Saints forum. Are you saying that that wouldn\'t be bad work ethics?

01-31-2005, 08:12 PM	#11
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Deuce is lazy? Deuce is fine, down season but was injured and the line had few holes for him to run, this happens to the best of R.B\'s, you\'ll see he\'ll bounce back, just hope we keep him for a while, if he plays most of his career in N.O he\'ll go down as the best R.B in Saints history, and to answer the question no he\'s not lazy, in fact everything I heard was that he worked hard day in and day out, first time I hear these comments of him being lazy Deuce plays with a lot of heart. But he looks out of shape to me. A little on the chubby side. Of all the top backs, Deuce is the least muscular. He\'s also not had the speed the last couple of years that he once had. Deuce came into camp overweight and was told to drop a few pounds. Haslett didn\'t fire the runningback coach because he thought Deuce was playing up to his potential. But, I agree. Deuce seems to be the kind of player that will bounce back.
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01-31-2005, 08:13 PM	#12
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	Deuce is lazy? LTF and LB, there\'s a thread about researching a couple of seasons gone by. I thought you two would have plenty of good stories from those particular years. Maybe you\'d share a couple of them with us? Here\'s the link to the thread in case it gets buried before you see it. http://www.blackandgold.net/site/mod...hread&tid=7808

01-31-2005, 08:15 PM	#13
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	Deuce is lazy? Deuce plays with a lot of heart. But he looks out of shape to me. A little on the chubby side. Of all the top backs, Deuce is the least muscular. Did you ever see Barry Sanders? He was not ripped at all. Nearly as flabby as me...well maybe not nearly that bad but not in tiptop shape from a visual standpoint. Didn\'t seem to hurt him any.

01-31-2005, 08:25 PM	#14
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Deuce is lazy? Deuce plays with a lot of heart. But he looks out of shape to me. A little on the chubby side. Of all the top backs, Deuce is the least muscular. Did you ever see Barry Sanders? He was not ripped at all. Nearly as flabby as me...well maybe not nearly that bad but not in tiptop shape from a visual standpoint. Didn\'t seem to hurt him any. Maybe I\'m wrong Scotty. But Deuce looks like he would be better served if he bulked up with muscle rather than fat. The extra weight also might be contributing to some of those injuries too. Haslett has asked Deuce to try and lose 2 pounds for every year he\'s in the league. To help prevent injury. Instead, Deuce has gained weight and he\'s getting to have injury problems.
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01-31-2005, 08:38 PM	#15
FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	Deuce is lazy? Don\'t shoot the messanger. I didn\'t write the article. No, you just took what one person called work ethics, and translated it into lazy, and then double-posted a very degrading remark about one of the few people from our team who has had more than one trip to the pro-bowl. A bad work ethic and lazy are the same thing

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01-31-2005, 08:47 PM	#16
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Deuce is lazy? LTF and LB, there\'s a thread about researching a couple of seasons gone by. I thought you two would have plenty of good stories from those particular years. Maybe you\'d share a couple of them with us? Here\'s the link to the thread in case it gets buried before you see it. http://www.blackandgold.net/site/mod...hread&tid=7808 Sorry, I can remember a lot of stories, it is just hard to put them to an exact season without going back and seeing exactly what happened those years. In regards to 1979...that may have been the year that we finished 8-8, and were on the verge of our very first winning season. If that is the year, then the biggest story I can remember from that season was that we were playing Oakland on a Monday night, and all we needed was a win that night to clinch a playoff spot. We were way up, something like 31-7, at halftime. For some reason Stabler was not playing that night in the first half, but was inserted into the game to start the second half. The Raiders came all the way back with Stabler at QB, and ended up winning something like 38-34. I think we had another game left after that one, but ended up losing that one, thus leaving us 8-8 for the season. Again, I am just trying to go from memory. The guy from Ca. was talking about wanting to know specific stories regarding a couple of teams, one being the Redskins. I can remember one story, where we were playing the Skins, and needed to win that game to get in the playoffs. Late in the game, we were driving for what would have been a game winning score and getting us in, and had just completed a long pass for a first down that would\'ve put us deep in their territory with a first down. At the end of the play, Dexter Manley spit on Jim Dumbrowski, and, of course, the refs didn\'t see that part. Dumbo retaliated, and, of course, they saw that, and gave us a 15 yd. unsportsmanlike conduct penalty, thus, stopping the drive, stopping the win, and leaving us once again on the outside looking in. Again, I don\'t remember the years so well, just the stories.
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01-31-2005, 08:53 PM	#17
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Deuce is lazy? A bad work ethic and lazy are the same thing Are you sure about that? Could a person be continuously late for work, or, work on the wrong things tirelessly, and still have bad work ethics?
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01-31-2005, 08:54 PM	#18
LongTimeFan Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,403	Deuce is lazy? Scotty, I was just like 12 years old in 79\' and I wasn\'t a fan untill like 85-86 when Mora came in a the coach, we fans now gripe at times with the Saints but just think how the die-hard fans felt with the Saints back then, Archie was the only player that truly gave them hopes of winning, I would love to get a copy of the book once he completes it, let me know when it will be ready for sell, any idea when that could be RB Chuck Muncie (1979) became first Saint to surpass 1,000-yards finishing the season with 1,198 yards, I looked this one up because my brother talks of him as much as he does of Archie [Edited on 1/2/2005 by LongTimeFan]
	Rest In Peace JoeSam, thanks for everything my friend.

01-31-2005, 08:56 PM	#19
FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	Deuce is lazy? A bad work ethic and lazy are the same thing Are you sure about that? Could a person be continuously late for work, or, work on the wrong things tirelessly, and still have bad work ethics? Lateness is a dependabilty issue, working on wrong things is probably lack of experience. Work Ethic is knowing what you have to do to improve ur situation and not doing it(LAZY)

01-31-2005, 09:09 PM	#20
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Deuce is lazy? [quote:f0c4b5a91f]A bad work ethic and lazy are the same thing Are you sure about that? Could a person be continuously late for work, or, work on the wrong things tirelessly, and still have bad work ethics? Lateness is a dependabilty issue, working on wrong things is probably lack of experience. Work Ethic is knowing what you have to do to improve ur situation and not doing it(LAZY) [/quote Pronunciation: \'e-thik Function: noun Etymology: Middle English ethik, from Middle French ethique, from Latin ethice, from Greek EthikE, from Ethikos 1 plural but singular or plural in construction : the discipline dealing with what is good and bad and with moral duty and obligation 2 a : a set of moral principles or values b : a theory or system of moral values <the present-day materialistic ethic> c plural but singular or plural in construction : the principles of conduct governing an individual or a group <professional ethics> d : a guiding philosophy pay particular attention to the part that says the principles of conduct governing an individual or a group I don\'t see the word lazy in there anywhere. I am not saying that laziness isn\'t one example of bad work ethicss, but it is not the only definition. Showing up late for work would fall under the category of conduct, as working on the wrong things at work, tirelessly, would fall into that category, as well. Let\'s say that I came to work and immediately got on my computer and typed all day long in the Saints forum. Are you saying that that wouldn\'t be bad work ethics?
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