AB doomed Braylon Edwards

saintswhodi · 02-05-2005, 05:23 PM

and almost hurt Mark Clayton as well with awful passes at the College Football Challenge on Fox. Other than that, if he put some touch on some of those balls he throws to our guys, we may see a new AB.

GumboBC · 02-05-2005, 05:32 PM

Joe Horn don\'t seem to have no trouble catching \'em.

saintswhodi · 02-05-2005, 05:36 PM

But Boo, Pathon, Conwell, and Donte do.

GumboBC · 02-05-2005, 05:40 PM

But Boo, Pathon, Conwell, and Donte do.

I wonder how Joe Horn can catch all those passes from AB and go to the probowl and our other receivers can\'t?

I suppose AB only throws good passes to Horn..

If Brooiks only had more leadership then those other guys would hang on to the damn ball..

saintswhodi · 02-05-2005, 05:48 PM

Either leadership, or a new team. I vote the latter. :P

BrooksMustGo · 02-05-2005, 05:50 PM

I suppose AB only throws good passes to Horn..

How about Horn seems to run more deep routes?
But then how is this even a discussion? Joe is one of the best WRs in the league, of course he catches more.

GumboBC · 02-05-2005, 05:52 PM

Either leadership, or a new team. I vote the latter. :P

After talking to some of you guys about leadership, I\'m now convinced that leadership is the problem with our receivers..

I think if Brooks showed more leadership that Donte\', Boo, Conwell, and Pathon would catch the ball as consistently as Joe Horn.

I think Joe Horn just doesn\'t require as much leadership as the other receivers do.

That probably holds true for Wayne Gandy and Victor Riley too. Those two guys need some more leadership at the QB position.

Now, doesn\'t that just sound crazy?

saintswhodi · 02-05-2005, 05:57 PM

Now, doesn\'t that just sound crazy?

Well, considering the source. :P

saintswhodi · 02-05-2005, 06:14 PM

Jokes aside, don\'t you think certain QBs inspire the players around them to try harder? Look at Favre. Donald Driver, Robert Brooks, Antonio Freeman. Those guys WERE NOT pro bowl caliber receivers, but they made the pro bowl with Favre throwing them the ball. Why? Cause Favre\'s receivers WANT to be their best. You think Peyton\'s receivers want to play better cause of him? I do. Those are leaders. If there is a guy I barely wanna play with throwing me the ball, and I feel he is not a leader or not the guy to take my team in the right direction, I ain\'t killing myself for him. I am gonna do just enough, but not over and beyond. Leadership often times is enough to get you over that hump. Think Brady\'s receivers see him as a leader? I sure as hell do. How about McNabb\'s receivers? As crappy as they had been, I know they see him as the leader.

GumboBC · 02-05-2005, 06:29 PM

If there is a guy I barely wanna play with throwing me the ball, and I feel he is not a leader or not the guy to take my team in the right direction, I ain\'t killing myself for him. I am gonna do just enough

Oh, we\'re getting somewhere now....

That\'s the way you feel and that\'s fine......Not knocking you.

But, speaking for myself, I give 100% at my job and I always have. Even since I was a kid.

And I\'ve worked for some real idiots if you know what I mean. Didn\'t matter to me though. I wanted to be successful. I wanted to show what I could do and move up in the company.

Some of my co-workers didn\'t like working for the boss we had. Some went on to other companies and, believe it or not, they really didn\'t like their next boss to well either.

Those co-workers I\'m speaking of are some of the same friends I still have now. They haven\'t gone anywhere in life, and I expect they never will.

People are successful because they have an inner desire to be succesful.

They hold themselves accoutable and there\'s really nothing anyone can do for them

I think that\'s true for a lot of the players on the Saints.

They need to have that burning desire to be great. And I don\'t think Aaron Brooks or anyone else is going to be able to give it to them...

02-05-2005, 05:23 PM	#1
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	AB doomed Braylon Edwards and almost hurt Mark Clayton as well with awful passes at the College Football Challenge on Fox. Other than that, if he put some touch on some of those balls he throws to our guys, we may see a new AB.

02-05-2005, 05:32 PM	#2
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	AB doomed Braylon Edwards Joe Horn don\'t seem to have no trouble catching \'em.
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02-05-2005, 05:36 PM	#3
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	AB doomed Braylon Edwards But Boo, Pathon, Conwell, and Donte do.

02-05-2005, 05:40 PM	#4
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	AB doomed Braylon Edwards But Boo, Pathon, Conwell, and Donte do. I wonder how Joe Horn can catch all those passes from AB and go to the probowl and our other receivers can\'t? I suppose AB only throws good passes to Horn.. If Brooiks only had more leadership then those other guys would hang on to the damn ball..
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02-05-2005, 05:50 PM	#6
BrooksMustGo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,762	AB doomed Braylon Edwards I suppose AB only throws good passes to Horn.. How about Horn seems to run more deep routes? But then how is this even a discussion? Joe is one of the best WRs in the league, of course he catches more.

02-05-2005, 05:52 PM	#7
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	AB doomed Braylon Edwards Either leadership, or a new team. I vote the latter. :P After talking to some of you guys about leadership, I\'m now convinced that leadership is the problem with our receivers.. I think if Brooks showed more leadership that Donte\', Boo, Conwell, and Pathon would catch the ball as consistently as Joe Horn. I think Joe Horn just doesn\'t require as much leadership as the other receivers do. That probably holds true for Wayne Gandy and Victor Riley too. Those two guys need some more leadership at the QB position. Now, doesn\'t that just sound crazy?
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02-05-2005, 05:57 PM	#8
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	AB doomed Braylon Edwards Now, doesn\'t that just sound crazy? Well, considering the source. :P

02-05-2005, 06:14 PM	#9
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	AB doomed Braylon Edwards Jokes aside, don\'t you think certain QBs inspire the players around them to try harder? Look at Favre. Donald Driver, Robert Brooks, Antonio Freeman. Those guys WERE NOT pro bowl caliber receivers, but they made the pro bowl with Favre throwing them the ball. Why? Cause Favre\'s receivers WANT to be their best. You think Peyton\'s receivers want to play better cause of him? I do. Those are leaders. If there is a guy I barely wanna play with throwing me the ball, and I feel he is not a leader or not the guy to take my team in the right direction, I ain\'t killing myself for him. I am gonna do just enough, but not over and beyond. Leadership often times is enough to get you over that hump. Think Brady\'s receivers see him as a leader? I sure as hell do. How about McNabb\'s receivers? As crappy as they had been, I know they see him as the leader.

02-05-2005, 06:29 PM	#10
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	AB doomed Braylon Edwards If there is a guy I barely wanna play with throwing me the ball, and I feel he is not a leader or not the guy to take my team in the right direction, I ain\'t killing myself for him. I am gonna do just enough Oh, we\'re getting somewhere now.... That\'s the way you feel and that\'s fine......Not knocking you. But, speaking for myself, I give 100% at my job and I always have. Even since I was a kid. And I\'ve worked for some real idiots if you know what I mean. Didn\'t matter to me though. I wanted to be successful. I wanted to show what I could do and move up in the company. Some of my co-workers didn\'t like working for the boss we had. Some went on to other companies and, believe it or not, they really didn\'t like their next boss to well either. Those co-workers I\'m speaking of are some of the same friends I still have now. They haven\'t gone anywhere in life, and I expect they never will. People are successful because they have an inner desire to be succesful. They hold themselves accoutable and there\'s really nothing anyone can do for them I think that\'s true for a lot of the players on the Saints. They need to have that burning desire to be great. And I don\'t think Aaron Brooks or anyone else is going to be able to give it to them...
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