4th and 20 D was Sean's call

arsaint · 08-14-2015, 08:46 AM

Saints' Sean Payton: Fourth-and-20 blitz was 'my call' - New Orleans Saints Blog - ESPN

dizzle88 · 08-14-2015, 08:48 AM

Like I said, SP should be held accountable for the shoddy defenses we have fielded year after year!

RailBoss · 08-14-2015, 09:02 AM

Great call that made the Ravens Fans extremely happy. Was looking for a paper bag so I could sneak out of the stadium. What was aggravating is that Grayson put together an outstanding drive to put us ahead.

hagan714 · 08-14-2015, 09:14 AM

"Fourth down and 20, that was my call, we blitzed 'em," Payton said. "Obviously they were able to make a play and continue the drive."

The Saints sent eight pass-rushers on the play -- which wasn’t enough against the Ravens' seven blockers. Quarterback Bryn Renner had plenty of time to dump off a short pass to wide-open tight end Maxx Williams, whom no one covered out of the backfield. Saints outside linebacker Kasim Edebali let Williams go as he flew toward the QB.

The 8 man blitz was not a bad call IMO. All QBs for the Ravens had time to bake a cake back there all game long. The prevent defense got eaten up all game long. So Might as well. 8 rushers vs 7 blockers and still no free lane to the QB.

Sorry the TE killed you all game long yet no one picks him up? Kasmin should not allowed a free release. Issue number one. The issue 2 is, who in the secondary blew their assignment?

Gotta get these guys some reps. need to cut the dead weight soon or

Lets here it gang. This unit just needs time to gel

burningmetal · 08-14-2015, 09:30 AM

I have zero opinion about this game. I didn't watch it, I didn't follow it online, and I barely even thought about it. The pre-season is boring enough, but I learned a long time ago that the first one and the last one are especially meaningless.

I wouldn't have known about this 4th and 20 play if it weren't for this thread, but I can't say I really care about it. This is what we should expect. It's either going to be vanilla or over the top aggressive in the most inappropriate times. It's just practice. Now if guys are missing tackles and dropping passes, that's something to complain about, but hardly anyone of importance was playing.

SaintsBro · 08-14-2015, 09:39 AM

Wasn't there somebody in camp or in the B&G scrimmages, who kept saying that the tight ends were always ridiculously open? I seem to remember an article or a blog, I remember reading somebody mentioning that it was hard to tell from practice if the Saints tight ends were really good or if the defense was really bad, but it kept happening in practice or in camp, and I seem to remember someone mentioning it, not sure where I read it....I have a feeling that tight ends are going to kill us again this year, 3rd down and 4th down, just like last year....oh man.

NonieT · 08-14-2015, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I have zero opinion about this game. I didn't watch it, I didn't follow it online, and I barely even thought about it. The pre-season is boring enough, but I learned a long time ago that the first one and the last one are especially meaningless.

I wouldn't have known about this 4th and 20 play if it weren't for this thread, but I can't say I really care about it. This is what we should expect. It's either going to be vanilla or over the top aggressive in the most inappropriate times. It's just practice. Now if guys are missing tackles and dropping passes, that's something to complain about, but hardly anyone of importance was playing.

Exactly! I don't understand why everyone is in panic mode. Last season the Saints were great in the 1st preseason game and we know how last season turned out. Folks need to chill out.

Danno · 08-14-2015, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by NonieT

Exactly! I don't understand why everyone is in panic mode. Last season the Saints were great in the 1st preseason game and we know how last season turned out. Folks need to chill out.

Agreed. There was plenty of bad to complain about, but there was a lot of good as well.

Overall I was slightly disappointed in the 1st quarter (but we didn't have Brees), and the last 2 minutes (with numerous guys who won't even be on the team in 3 weeks).

Everything else was a typical pre-season performance.

I give us a C-minus. I'm not gonna panic yet.

halloween 65 · 08-14-2015, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by NonieT

Exactly! I don't understand why everyone is in panic mode. Last season the Saints were great in the 1st preseason game and we know how last season turned out. Folks need to chill out.

Last season in pre-season was why I drank the kool-aid. Now it's the same old crap out of our D. I'm not liking this 4-3 under we're playing more and more. It's more of a 4-3 blunder.

skymike · 08-14-2015, 10:08 AM

I keep hearing how meaningless preseason is, but its weird how this looked exactly like the team we watched lose last year in the regular season.

Both lines getting punked.
Defense giving up big stupid plays, on 3rd & 4th & long.
Stupid penalties. Anyone who cant figure out where to line up, or how to
figure out where the line of scrimmage is, shouldnt play football.
No pass rush.
Poor blitz pickup.
Some flashes of offense.

Looks like the backups are chips off the old starters blocks.

It sure looks like real problems to me.
For now, we suck.

08-14-2015, 08:46 AM	#1
arsaint Saint Historian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker, somewhere under the brick & steel of a nondescript building.. Posts: 2,705	4th and 20 D was Sean's call Saints' Sean Payton: Fourth-and-20 blitz was 'my call' - New Orleans Saints Blog - ESPN

08-14-2015, 08:48 AM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: 4th and 20 D was Sean's call Like I said, SP should be held accountable for the shoddy defenses we have fielded year after year!

08-14-2015, 09:02 AM	#3
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: 4th and 20 D was Sean's call Great call that made the Ravens Fans extremely happy. Was looking for a paper bag so I could sneak out of the stadium. What was aggravating is that Grayson put together an outstanding drive to put us ahead. Beastmode likes this.

08-14-2015, 09:14 AM	#4
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 4th and 20 D was Sean's call "Fourth down and 20, that was my call, we blitzed 'em," Payton said. "Obviously they were able to make a play and continue the drive." The Saints sent eight pass-rushers on the play -- which wasn’t enough against the Ravens' seven blockers. Quarterback Bryn Renner had plenty of time to dump off a short pass to wide-open tight end Maxx Williams, whom no one covered out of the backfield. Saints outside linebacker Kasim Edebali let Williams go as he flew toward the QB. The 8 man blitz was not a bad call IMO. All QBs for the Ravens had time to bake a cake back there all game long. The prevent defense got eaten up all game long. So Might as well. 8 rushers vs 7 blockers and still no free lane to the QB. Sorry the TE killed you all game long yet no one picks him up? Kasmin should not allowed a free release. Issue number one. The issue 2 is, who in the secondary blew their assignment? Gotta get these guys some reps. need to cut the dead weight soon or Lets here it gang. This unit just needs time to gel
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08-14-2015, 09:30 AM	#5
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 4th and 20 D was Sean's call I have zero opinion about this game. I didn't watch it, I didn't follow it online, and I barely even thought about it. The pre-season is boring enough, but I learned a long time ago that the first one and the last one are especially meaningless. I wouldn't have known about this 4th and 20 play if it weren't for this thread, but I can't say I really care about it. This is what we should expect. It's either going to be vanilla or over the top aggressive in the most inappropriate times. It's just practice. Now if guys are missing tackles and dropping passes, that's something to complain about, but hardly anyone of importance was playing. xan, frydaddy and NonieT like this.
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08-14-2015, 09:39 AM	#6
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 4th and 20 D was Sean's call Wasn't there somebody in camp or in the B&G scrimmages, who kept saying that the tight ends were always ridiculously open? I seem to remember an article or a blog, I remember reading somebody mentioning that it was hard to tell from practice if the Saints tight ends were really good or if the defense was really bad, but it kept happening in practice or in camp, and I seem to remember someone mentioning it, not sure where I read it....I have a feeling that tight ends are going to kill us again this year, 3rd down and 4th down, just like last year....oh man. hagan714 and Beastmode like this.

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NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: 4th and 20 D was Sean's call Originally Posted by burningmetal I have zero opinion about this game. I didn't watch it, I didn't follow it online, and I barely even thought about it. The pre-season is boring enough, but I learned a long time ago that the first one and the last one are especially meaningless. I wouldn't have known about this 4th and 20 play if it weren't for this thread, but I can't say I really care about it. This is what we should expect. It's either going to be vanilla or over the top aggressive in the most inappropriate times. It's just practice. Now if guys are missing tackles and dropping passes, that's something to complain about, but hardly anyone of importance was playing. Exactly! I don't understand why everyone is in panic mode. Last season the Saints were great in the 1st preseason game and we know how last season turned out. Folks need to chill out. Danno likes this.
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08-14-2015, 09:52 AM	#8
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: 4th and 20 D was Sean's call Originally Posted by NonieT Exactly! I don't understand why everyone is in panic mode. Last season the Saints were great in the 1st preseason game and we know how last season turned out. Folks need to chill out. Agreed. There was plenty of bad to complain about, but there was a lot of good as well. Overall I was slightly disappointed in the 1st quarter (but we didn't have Brees), and the last 2 minutes (with numerous guys who won't even be on the team in 3 weeks). Everything else was a typical pre-season performance. I give us a C-minus. I'm not gonna panic yet. SmashMouth, Beastmode and WhoDat!656 like this.

08-14-2015, 09:53 AM	#9
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: 4th and 20 D was Sean's call Originally Posted by NonieT Exactly! I don't understand why everyone is in panic mode. Last season the Saints were great in the 1st preseason game and we know how last season turned out. Folks need to chill out. Last season in pre-season was why I drank the kool-aid. Now it's the same old crap out of our D. I'm not liking this 4-3 under we're playing more and more. It's more of a 4-3 blunder. jnormand and dizzle88 like this.

08-14-2015, 10:08 AM	#10
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: 4th and 20 D was Sean's call I keep hearing how meaningless preseason is, but its weird how this looked exactly like the team we watched lose last year in the regular season. Both lines getting punked. Defense giving up big stupid plays, on 3rd & 4th & long. Stupid penalties. Anyone who cant figure out where to line up, or how to figure out where the line of scrimmage is, shouldnt play football. No pass rush. Poor blitz pickup. Some flashes of offense. Looks like the backups are chips off the old starters blocks. It sure looks like real problems to me. For now, we suck. jnormand, RailBoss, hagan714 and 2 others like this.

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