4th and 20 D was Sean's call

arsaint · 08-14-2015, 07:46 AM

Saints' Sean Payton: Fourth-and-20 blitz was 'my call' - New Orleans Saints Blog - ESPN

dizzle88 · 08-14-2015, 07:48 AM

Like I said, SP should be held accountable for the shoddy defenses we have fielded year after year!

RailBoss · 08-14-2015, 08:02 AM

Great call that made the Ravens Fans extremely happy. Was looking for a paper bag so I could sneak out of the stadium. What was aggravating is that Grayson put together an outstanding drive to put us ahead.

hagan714 · 08-14-2015, 08:14 AM

"Fourth down and 20, that was my call, we blitzed 'em," Payton said. "Obviously they were able to make a play and continue the drive."

The Saints sent eight pass-rushers on the play -- which wasn’t enough against the Ravens' seven blockers. Quarterback Bryn Renner had plenty of time to dump off a short pass to wide-open tight end Maxx Williams, whom no one covered out of the backfield. Saints outside linebacker Kasim Edebali let Williams go as he flew toward the QB.

The 8 man blitz was not a bad call IMO. All QBs for the Ravens had time to bake a cake back there all game long. The prevent defense got eaten up all game long. So Might as well. 8 rushers vs 7 blockers and still no free lane to the QB.

Sorry the TE killed you all game long yet no one picks him up? Kasmin should not allowed a free release. Issue number one. The issue 2 is, who in the secondary blew their assignment?

Gotta get these guys some reps. need to cut the dead weight soon or

Lets here it gang. This unit just needs time to gel

burningmetal · 08-14-2015, 08:30 AM

I have zero opinion about this game. I didn't watch it, I didn't follow it online, and I barely even thought about it. The pre-season is boring enough, but I learned a long time ago that the first one and the last one are especially meaningless.

I wouldn't have known about this 4th and 20 play if it weren't for this thread, but I can't say I really care about it. This is what we should expect. It's either going to be vanilla or over the top aggressive in the most inappropriate times. It's just practice. Now if guys are missing tackles and dropping passes, that's something to complain about, but hardly anyone of importance was playing.

NonieT · 08-14-2015, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I have zero opinion about this game. I didn't watch it, I didn't follow it online, and I barely even thought about it. The pre-season is boring enough, but I learned a long time ago that the first one and the last one are especially meaningless.

I wouldn't have known about this 4th and 20 play if it weren't for this thread, but I can't say I really care about it. This is what we should expect. It's either going to be vanilla or over the top aggressive in the most inappropriate times. It's just practice. Now if guys are missing tackles and dropping passes, that's something to complain about, but hardly anyone of importance was playing.

Exactly! I don't understand why everyone is in panic mode. Last season the Saints were great in the 1st preseason game and we know how last season turned out. Folks need to chill out.

Danno · 08-14-2015, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by NonieT

Exactly! I don't understand why everyone is in panic mode. Last season the Saints were great in the 1st preseason game and we know how last season turned out. Folks need to chill out.

Agreed. There was plenty of bad to complain about, but there was a lot of good as well.

Overall I was slightly disappointed in the 1st quarter (but we didn't have Brees), and the last 2 minutes (with numerous guys who won't even be on the team in 3 weeks).

Everything else was a typical pre-season performance.

I give us a C-minus. I'm not gonna panic yet.

halloween 65 · 08-14-2015, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by NonieT

Exactly! I don't understand why everyone is in panic mode. Last season the Saints were great in the 1st preseason game and we know how last season turned out. Folks need to chill out.

Last season in pre-season was why I drank the kool-aid. Now it's the same old crap out of our D. I'm not liking this 4-3 under we're playing more and more. It's more of a 4-3 blunder.

K Major · 08-14-2015, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Now it's the same old crap out of our D. I'm not liking this 4-3 under we're playing more and more. It's more of a 4-3 blunder.

Yes sir... I'm simply not understanding our defensive game plan. I though we were supposed to be going to a 3-4, yet we bring 3 tech DTs. On other occasions we are playing 4-3 but play LB's at DE. I often wonder if the Big Lebowski knows what he wants on D. We have a lot of speed and size this year, yet we play the opposite

.

I'm not in panic mode yet however there is reason to be concerned... specifically on defense.

blackangold · 08-14-2015, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Yes sir... I'm simply not understanding our defensive game plan. I though we were supposed to be going to a 3-4, yet we bring 3 tech DTs. On other occasions we are playing 4-3 but play LB's at DE. I often wonder if the Big Lebowski knows what he wants on D. We have a lot of speed and size this year, yet we play the opposite .

I'm not in panic mode yet however there is reason to be concerned... specifically on defense.

We have a lot of speed and size at LB, but we lack the D-line to support them. I don't think Jenkins or Williams is the answer, they both got schooled by the 1s. The RB and O-line was on top of our LBs as soon as the ball was snapped, our DTs might as well of stayed home.

My biggest concern with this team is from the DTs, or lack thereof. #95 and #71 played well at the spots in scrub time but who knows what they'll do against the 1s.

08-14-2015, 07:46 AM	#1
arsaint Saint Historian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker, somewhere under the brick & steel of a nondescript building.. Posts: 2,623	4th and 20 D was Sean's call Saints' Sean Payton: Fourth-and-20 blitz was 'my call' - New Orleans Saints Blog - ESPN

08-14-2015, 07:48 AM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,838	Re: 4th and 20 D was Sean's call Like I said, SP should be held accountable for the shoddy defenses we have fielded year after year!

08-14-2015, 08:02 AM	#3
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: 4th and 20 D was Sean's call Great call that made the Ravens Fans extremely happy. Was looking for a paper bag so I could sneak out of the stadium. What was aggravating is that Grayson put together an outstanding drive to put us ahead. Beastmode likes this.

08-14-2015, 08:14 AM	#4
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 4th and 20 D was Sean's call "Fourth down and 20, that was my call, we blitzed 'em," Payton said. "Obviously they were able to make a play and continue the drive." The Saints sent eight pass-rushers on the play -- which wasn’t enough against the Ravens' seven blockers. Quarterback Bryn Renner had plenty of time to dump off a short pass to wide-open tight end Maxx Williams, whom no one covered out of the backfield. Saints outside linebacker Kasim Edebali let Williams go as he flew toward the QB. The 8 man blitz was not a bad call IMO. All QBs for the Ravens had time to bake a cake back there all game long. The prevent defense got eaten up all game long. So Might as well. 8 rushers vs 7 blockers and still no free lane to the QB. Sorry the TE killed you all game long yet no one picks him up? Kasmin should not allowed a free release. Issue number one. The issue 2 is, who in the secondary blew their assignment? Gotta get these guys some reps. need to cut the dead weight soon or Lets here it gang. This unit just needs time to gel
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08-14-2015, 08:30 AM	#5
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,906 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 4th and 20 D was Sean's call I have zero opinion about this game. I didn't watch it, I didn't follow it online, and I barely even thought about it. The pre-season is boring enough, but I learned a long time ago that the first one and the last one are especially meaningless. I wouldn't have known about this 4th and 20 play if it weren't for this thread, but I can't say I really care about it. This is what we should expect. It's either going to be vanilla or over the top aggressive in the most inappropriate times. It's just practice. Now if guys are missing tackles and dropping passes, that's something to complain about, but hardly anyone of importance was playing. xan, frydaddy and NonieT like this.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

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NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: 4th and 20 D was Sean's call Originally Posted by burningmetal I have zero opinion about this game. I didn't watch it, I didn't follow it online, and I barely even thought about it. The pre-season is boring enough, but I learned a long time ago that the first one and the last one are especially meaningless. I wouldn't have known about this 4th and 20 play if it weren't for this thread, but I can't say I really care about it. This is what we should expect. It's either going to be vanilla or over the top aggressive in the most inappropriate times. It's just practice. Now if guys are missing tackles and dropping passes, that's something to complain about, but hardly anyone of importance was playing. Exactly! I don't understand why everyone is in panic mode. Last season the Saints were great in the 1st preseason game and we know how last season turned out. Folks need to chill out. Danno likes this.
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08-14-2015, 08:52 AM	#7
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,653	Re: 4th and 20 D was Sean's call Originally Posted by NonieT Exactly! I don't understand why everyone is in panic mode. Last season the Saints were great in the 1st preseason game and we know how last season turned out. Folks need to chill out. Agreed. There was plenty of bad to complain about, but there was a lot of good as well. Overall I was slightly disappointed in the 1st quarter (but we didn't have Brees), and the last 2 minutes (with numerous guys who won't even be on the team in 3 weeks). Everything else was a typical pre-season performance. I give us a C-minus. I'm not gonna panic yet. SmashMouth, Beastmode and WhoDat!656 like this.

08-14-2015, 08:53 AM	#8
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: 4th and 20 D was Sean's call Originally Posted by NonieT Exactly! I don't understand why everyone is in panic mode. Last season the Saints were great in the 1st preseason game and we know how last season turned out. Folks need to chill out. Last season in pre-season was why I drank the kool-aid. Now it's the same old crap out of our D. I'm not liking this 4-3 under we're playing more and more. It's more of a 4-3 blunder. jnormand and dizzle88 like this.

08-14-2015, 12:03 PM	#9
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,070 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 4th and 20 D was Sean's call Originally Posted by halloween 65 Now it's the same old crap out of our D. I'm not liking this 4-3 under we're playing more and more. It's more of a 4-3 blunder. Yes sir... I'm simply not understanding our defensive game plan. I though we were supposed to be going to a 3-4, yet we bring 3 tech DTs. On other occasions we are playing 4-3 but play LB's at DE. I often wonder if the Big Lebowski knows what he wants on D. We have a lot of speed and size this year, yet we play the opposite . I'm not in panic mode yet however there is reason to be concerned... specifically on defense. jeanpierre and halloween 65 like this.

08-14-2015, 12:51 PM	#10
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: 4th and 20 D was Sean's call Originally Posted by K Major Yes sir... I'm simply not understanding our defensive game plan. I though we were supposed to be going to a 3-4, yet we bring 3 tech DTs. On other occasions we are playing 4-3 but play LB's at DE. I often wonder if the Big Lebowski knows what he wants on D. We have a lot of speed and size this year, yet we play the opposite . I'm not in panic mode yet however there is reason to be concerned... specifically on defense. We have a lot of speed and size at LB, but we lack the D-line to support them. I don't think Jenkins or Williams is the answer, they both got schooled by the 1s. The RB and O-line was on top of our LBs as soon as the ball was snapped, our DTs might as well of stayed home. My biggest concern with this team is from the DTs, or lack thereof. #95 and #71 played well at the spots in scrub time but who knows what they'll do against the 1s. hagan714 and K Major like this.

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