Rank Our Problems and Discussion

GumboBC · 02-06-2005, 02:44 PM

There are plenty of good RT out there. Its not nearly as hard to find as a left tackle. That\'s why I ranked CB ahead of RT. Though I\'m okay with Fakir, he might not cut it and CB are much harder to find that a RT.

Riley needs to go. I can\'t handle another year of him. Start anyone but Riley............PLEASE!!

BrooksMustGo · 02-06-2005, 02:47 PM

I think Stallworth would be better served running more deep routes. I think part of his problem is that he hears footsteps when he\'s in the middle of the field.

As for Riley, I imagine your view is pretty unpopular. Why not let Folau play instead of Riley? He\'s just a cheap, and he did start the year before - and I don\'t remember him being as bad as Riley was this year?

I\'m not opposed to Folau starting. My question is: who would we have left on the bench when the Stinchcomb experiment is over?

JKool · 02-06-2005, 02:50 PM

BMG,

I understand Nesbit can play all the positions? Does that inspire confidence?

I also understand your view on Stallworth, but I\'m not sure I agree (of course I could only see like 6 games this year). I thought he looked a lot tougher over the middle later in the year. He also made a couple of tough catches while covered. I don\'t really know what more to say about that.

[Edited on 6/2/2005 by JKool]

GumboBC · 02-06-2005, 02:54 PM

I have a question for both JKool and BMG...

Don\'t you guys feel that solid RT can be found pretty easy and on the cheap?

I think so. I\'m not sure who is availiable, but I\'d think RT are much more plentiful than LT.

shadowdrinker · 02-06-2005, 03:01 PM

Safety - 5 - top notch player
Cb - 5 - top notch player
LB - 4 - good player
OT - 4 - good player
QB - 2 - decent back up

ScottyRo · 02-06-2005, 03:01 PM

OT 6: Both Riley and Gandy must go. (Gandy would be a credible RT, but at lesser pay).

OLB 5: I\'d like to stick with Watson in the middle for now and get better on the edges. This may mean coaching up Allen or Hodge and picking up soomeone new.

DT 3: Obviously we need someone clogging up the middle.

QB 3: AB has talent and athlietic ability. All 3 points should go into coaching and scheming. 2 major areas of focus: running when necessary and dumping the ball off when in trouble.

S 1.5: Tebucky looks ok. He could stand plenty of improvement in coverage. I really think we need to replace Bellamy with Mitchell or someone new.

WR 1.5: As with AB, I\'d like to see coaching at work here. A focus on understanding the playbook and focusing on assignments is a key here (lumpin catching the ball here).

ScottyRo · 02-06-2005, 03:03 PM

of course I could only see like 6 games this year

How can you stand it?

JKool · 02-06-2005, 03:05 PM

sd, just so I can be clear, you think we only need one OT and one LB, and that those are both less important than getting a Safety and a Corner? That is a merely clarificatory question, so please don\'t take it the wrong way.

Billy, I do think that we could get another RT relatively cheaply. My view remains that we need to replace both OTs with better players than we have. However, I\'d be more in favor of dumping Riley and going with Folau if we don\'t get a better player. I\'d like to see us get Diem.

Scotty, I agree with you on our Safety situation.

JKool · 02-06-2005, 03:07 PM

Scotty,

It was pretty rough, but judging by everyone else\'s response to the games, I think my blood pressure thanks me.

I usually follow the games on the NFL.com site; I used to listen to the web-cast too, but now that the poopy NFL has prevented that, I\'m sad.

I get to see as many GB games as I want though... :weepy:

GumboBC · 02-06-2005, 03:16 PM

This is a really interesting thread.

When I look at what needs fixing on this team, I have to look at it like this.........

What are our weakest positions?
I believe that\'s where you have to start.

What positions on a football team make the most impact?
Even though we might be weaker at safety, we might be better served getting a CB, who I believe can make a bigger improvement even though we\'re weaker at safety.

How hard is it to find a solid player at a certain position.
If there are a bunch of right tackles avaliable and we can easily find someone, then I rank that position lower because of that fact. However, I don\'t know if this is true, just a hunch that there are a lot of RT out there.

02-06-2005, 02:44 PM	#11
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Rank Our Problems and Discussion There are plenty of good RT out there. Its not nearly as hard to find as a left tackle. That\'s why I ranked CB ahead of RT. Though I\'m okay with Fakir, he might not cut it and CB are much harder to find that a RT. Riley needs to go. I can\'t handle another year of him. Start anyone but Riley............PLEASE!!
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02-06-2005, 02:47 PM	#12
BrooksMustGo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,762	Rank Our Problems and Discussion I think Stallworth would be better served running more deep routes. I think part of his problem is that he hears footsteps when he\'s in the middle of the field. As for Riley, I imagine your view is pretty unpopular. Why not let Folau play instead of Riley? He\'s just a cheap, and he did start the year before - and I don\'t remember him being as bad as Riley was this year? I\'m not opposed to Folau starting. My question is: who would we have left on the bench when the Stinchcomb experiment is over?

02-06-2005, 02:50 PM	#13
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	Rank Our Problems and Discussion BMG, I understand Nesbit can play all the positions? Does that inspire confidence? I also understand your view on Stallworth, but I\'m not sure I agree (of course I could only see like 6 games this year). I thought he looked a lot tougher over the middle later in the year. He also made a couple of tough catches while covered. I don\'t really know what more to say about that. [Edited on 6/2/2005 by JKool]

02-06-2005, 02:54 PM	#14
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Rank Our Problems and Discussion I have a question for both JKool and BMG... Don\'t you guys feel that solid RT can be found pretty easy and on the cheap? I think so. I\'m not sure who is availiable, but I\'d think RT are much more plentiful than LT.
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02-06-2005, 03:01 PM	#15
shadowdrinker Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 517	Rank Our Problems and Discussion Safety - 5 - top notch player Cb - 5 - top notch player LB - 4 - good player OT - 4 - good player QB - 2 - decent back up
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02-06-2005, 03:01 PM	#16
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	Rank Our Problems and Discussion OT 6: Both Riley and Gandy must go. (Gandy would be a credible RT, but at lesser pay). OLB 5: I\'d like to stick with Watson in the middle for now and get better on the edges. This may mean coaching up Allen or Hodge and picking up soomeone new. DT 3: Obviously we need someone clogging up the middle. QB 3: AB has talent and athlietic ability. All 3 points should go into coaching and scheming. 2 major areas of focus: running when necessary and dumping the ball off when in trouble. S 1.5: Tebucky looks ok. He could stand plenty of improvement in coverage. I really think we need to replace Bellamy with Mitchell or someone new. WR 1.5: As with AB, I\'d like to see coaching at work here. A focus on understanding the playbook and focusing on assignments is a key here (lumpin catching the ball here).

02-06-2005, 03:03 PM	#17
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	Rank Our Problems and Discussion of course I could only see like 6 games this year How can you stand it?

02-06-2005, 03:05 PM	#18
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	Rank Our Problems and Discussion sd, just so I can be clear, you think we only need one OT and one LB, and that those are both less important than getting a Safety and a Corner? That is a merely clarificatory question, so please don\'t take it the wrong way. Billy, I do think that we could get another RT relatively cheaply. My view remains that we need to replace both OTs with better players than we have. However, I\'d be more in favor of dumping Riley and going with Folau if we don\'t get a better player. I\'d like to see us get Diem. Scotty, I agree with you on our Safety situation.
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02-06-2005, 03:07 PM	#19
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	Rank Our Problems and Discussion Scotty, It was pretty rough, but judging by everyone else\'s response to the games, I think my blood pressure thanks me. I usually follow the games on the NFL.com site; I used to listen to the web-cast too, but now that the poopy NFL has prevented that, I\'m sad. I get to see as many GB games as I want though... :weepy:

02-06-2005, 03:16 PM	#20
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Rank Our Problems and Discussion This is a really interesting thread. When I look at what needs fixing on this team, I have to look at it like this......... What are our weakest positions? I believe that\'s where you have to start. What positions on a football team make the most impact? Even though we might be weaker at safety, we might be better served getting a CB, who I believe can make a bigger improvement even though we\'re weaker at safety. How hard is it to find a solid player at a certain position. If there are a bunch of right tackles avaliable and we can easily find someone, then I rank that position lower because of that fact. However, I don\'t know if this is true, just a hunch that there are a lot of RT out there.
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