Joe Horn tells it like it is!

GumboBC · 02-11-2005, 06:59 PM

Q. How does your coach Jim Haslett go from being on the hot seat midway through the season to keeping his job?

A. We won four games in a row. It was too late in the season, but we ended on a good note. I'm glad they gave Has a two-year extension. It's not the head coach. The head coach can't run routes, run the football. It's his personnel. You gather the guys together to believe in your system, you'll win football games and that's what the Saints did the last five games of the season. Unfortunately, it was too late.

Q. What went through your mind after you defeated Carolina in the season finale, but missed the playoffs when the Rams beat the Jets?

A. I didn't watch it, I was sick. But we dug that hole, that's why when the game was over in Carolina, I went and took a shower. I didn't watch the TV. If we got to the playoffs great, but we dug that hole so hopefully the guys can remember that in mini-camp, the offseason program and training camp. We win our games, we get in and we don't have to worry about someone missing a field goal.

Q. So what are the Saints' biggest weaknesses?

A. Right now, I can't say that we have too many because the last four games we dominated everybody we played. They have to test the free-agent market and the draft to see what they can fill in.

Q. If it was your decision, where would the Saints call home? New Orleans, Los Angeles or somewhere else?
A. Wherever fans in a city accept us. If the New Orleans fans keep begging and crying about the tickets, crying about us winning, they don't want to support us and keep us there, then let's move on to a city that will. I would love to win a Super Bowl in New Orleans, but if they don't want to do what it takes to keep us there, then let's ride out.

Q. Best touchdown celebration you saw this year?
A. [Pittsburgh's Antwaan] Randle El. He caught a touchdown and started shouting like he was in church.

Q. What impresses you most about this current run by the Patriots?
A. Team camaraderie. Bill Belichick keeping that team together. Keep them believing in his system. In the NFL, you're going to have great athletes. Bill Belichick has a knack for bringing an athlete in and making him a star. Making him jell with the system he has. And he has the [assistant] coaches to back that up.

Q. What Super Bowl performance impressed you more? Terrell Owens' comeback from surgery or Deion Branch picking apart Philly's defense?
A. T.O. That shocked me the most because he shook the world up. No one thought after his surgery that he would come out and perform like that. I told him today, in his face, 'I don't like to pull on other receivers' jock strap, but as a man, you shook up the world.' He has much respect from me.

Q. So what's the best part about making the Pro Bowl?
A. For me, letting other people in my life have the chance to enjoy themselves. I thank God for blessing me with the money and the fame, but I love ... when I can fly other family members in. My mom, my cousins, my friends, who would never probably get the chance to enjoy a beautiful island like this, that's what I love about it.

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[Edited on 12/2/2005 by GumboBC]

GumboBC · 02-11-2005, 07:13 PM

Q. If it was your decision, where would the Saints call home? New Orleans, Los Angeles or somewhere else?
A. Wherever fans in a city accept us. If the New Orleans fans keep begging and crying about the tickets, crying about us winning, they don\'t want to support us and keep us there, then let\'s move on to a city that will. I would love to win a Super Bowl in New Orleans, but if they don\'t want to do what it takes to keep us there, then let\'s ride out.

Is Joe Horn talking about YOU? LMAO!!

Let the Horn bashing begin!!

GumboBC · 02-11-2005, 07:46 PM

For the record:

Q. Two years ago, you said Indianapolis\' Marvin Harrison was the best receiver in the game? Does that opinion still hold true?
A. Let me tell you something. I judge receivers by the stats. Whoever has the best stats that year is the best receiver in the league.

Q. So based on the stats, then No. 87 is the best?
A. That\'s right, but all that is irrelevant.

Q. If it was your decision, where would the Saints call home? New Orleans, Los Angeles or somewhere else?
A. Wherever fans in a city accept us. If the New Orleans fans keep begging and crying about the tickets, crying about us winning, they don\'t want to support us and keep us there, then let\'s move on to a city that will. I would love to win a Super Bowl in New Orleans, but if they don\'t want to do what it takes to keep us there, then let\'s ride out.

Q. How does your coach Jim Haslett go from being on the hot seat midway through the season to keeping his job?
A. We won four games in a row. It was too late in the season, but we ended on a good note. I\'m glad they gave Has a two-year extension. It\'s not the head coach. The head coach can\'t run routes, run the football. It\'s his personnel. You gather the guys together to believe in your system, you\'ll win football games and that\'s what the Saints did the last five games of the season. Unfortunately, it was too late.

To recap:

1. Joe calls himself the best receiver in the NFL.
2. Says Haslett is not to blame for the losses and blames the rest of his team (personnel)
3. Bashes the fans for begging and whinning.

I\'ve got this in my file.

alsaints113 · 02-11-2005, 07:56 PM

Joe Horn has a point there Gumbo. I agree with him unfortunately. The best way to run a team out of town is to not be there when the going gets tough. Saints tickets are still among the lowest prices in the league if I remember right. As far as I\'m concerned, after what he\'s done for our team, he can say any damn thing he wants...and he was the best receiver this year individually if you ask me.

And don\'t anybody give me the classic lines...\"I\'ve supported the Saints being bad for so long, why should I keep doing it if they accept mediocrity!\" or any bull like that. Well...actually...that\'s inevitable when trying to suuport the Saints while they\'re crappy on this site (the reason I barely ever post). When I move to New Orleans if the Saints are still there I will go to every game I can regardless of their record and cheer them on regardless of their record or the score...just like I have in PA and Shreveport the last 15 years. Yes I am \"only 26.5\"...so don\'t even bother saying that I don\'t know the pain of being a Saints fan for 38 years...I can\'t help when I was born but always cheered the Saints. This is another classic EXCUSE line from people who disagree with my unending support on this site and others.

Peace out y\'all....by the way I was at the Bacchus parade and DAMN is Elijah Wood tiny!

GumboBC · 02-11-2005, 07:59 PM

alsaints113--

I\'m with you all the way!!

I\'ve said the samething Joe Horn is saying.

In fact, I\'ve said exactly the samething he\'s saying.

Maybe they\'ll listen to Joe.

I suspect some fans will have him added to their \"cut\" list though.

turbo_dog · 02-11-2005, 09:03 PM

Q. If it was your decision, where would the Saints call home? New Orleans, Los Angeles or somewhere else?
A. Wherever fans in a city accept us. If the New Orleans fans keep begging and crying about the tickets, crying about us winning, they don\'t want to support us and keep us there, then let\'s move on to a city that will. I would love to win a Super Bowl in New Orleans, but if they don\'t want to do what it takes to keep us there, then let\'s ride out.

I like Joe Horn, but his criticism of fans is one thing that sometimes irks me. He says that fans are crying about the team winning, what do you expect. Name a fan who doesn\'t want to see his beloved team win! If you love your team you want to see them win. As far as support, I think there were two home games this year that didn\'t sell out. That makes two in the past few years. This is in one of the \"smaller markets\" in the NFL. Have you ever looked at the crowd at an Arizona Cardinals game? They almost never have more than half the stadium filled.

alsaints113 · 02-11-2005, 10:41 PM

Unfortunately, sometimes those sold out crowds show up to boo the Saints (see Aaron Brooks...) because of a few dumb mistakes. I would rather be a Saints fan and have dumb mistakes cost us the playoffs then have them cost us the NFC championships or Super Bowl. I\'d also rather not have the fans show up a la Arizona when they don\'t support the team then show up to make it even harder on the home team. That makes absolutely NO sense at all. Pure stupidity.

spkb25 · 02-11-2005, 10:43 PM

the fact that joe has performed the way he has year in year out i can take his criticism. i dont agree with him though. the fans pay his salary and if we wish to complaine because as a team we arent getting what we desrve then oh well. complaine about us joe. its really basic when we are the fans and you are there because of fans then the fans have a right to complaine. im pretty sure that if they had played the entire the season the way they played the last 4 games there wouldnt have been as many complaints. but they didnt give us that. they gave us crap the first 12 weeks. if joe doesnt like us complaing oh well. i could care less. joe only has a job because there are fans. without fans he doesnt have a job. i love joe but if he doesnt like it i say he gets the big old OH WELL

WhoDat · 02-11-2005, 10:59 PM

I\'ve got this in my file.

So what? How are you going to use it Billy-Boy? If you say that Joe Horn is a problem, then so is your boy Brooks.

If Horn is right then you\'re in favor of fans supporting this team just b/c the team and its players say so? Just as I would bash a President whose policies I disagree with, I would likewise support my country. But when a President sends our boys to a war I don\'t support, I\'m going to attack the decision and support the boys.

WhoDat · 02-11-2005, 11:03 PM

PS - if your argument is that we bash Brooks when he makes egotistical comments, but not Horn, my response is simple. Horn is considered a vocal and emotional leader by coaches and teammates. Brooks is not. Further, Horn proves it on the field. He can say whatever he wants so long as he keeps going to the Pro Bowl 4 out of every 5 years and putting up top 5 WR numbers over a 5 year period. When Brooks goes to a single Pro Bowl, get back to me on whether or not he can call himself great.

02-11-2005, 06:59 PM	#1
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Joe Horn tells it like it is! Q. How does your coach Jim Haslett go from being on the hot seat midway through the season to keeping his job? A. We won four games in a row. It was too late in the season, but we ended on a good note. I'm glad they gave Has a two-year extension. It's not the head coach. The head coach can't run routes, run the football. It's his personnel. You gather the guys together to believe in your system, you'll win football games and that's what the Saints did the last five games of the season. Unfortunately, it was too late. Q. What went through your mind after you defeated Carolina in the season finale, but missed the playoffs when the Rams beat the Jets? A. I didn't watch it, I was sick. But we dug that hole, that's why when the game was over in Carolina, I went and took a shower. I didn't watch the TV. If we got to the playoffs great, but we dug that hole so hopefully the guys can remember that in mini-camp, the offseason program and training camp. We win our games, we get in and we don't have to worry about someone missing a field goal. Q. So what are the Saints' biggest weaknesses? A. Right now, I can't say that we have too many because the last four games we dominated everybody we played. They have to test the free-agent market and the draft to see what they can fill in. Q. If it was your decision, where would the Saints call home? New Orleans, Los Angeles or somewhere else? A. Wherever fans in a city accept us. If the New Orleans fans keep begging and crying about the tickets, crying about us winning, they don't want to support us and keep us there, then let's move on to a city that will. I would love to win a Super Bowl in New Orleans, but if they don't want to do what it takes to keep us there, then let's ride out. Q. Best touchdown celebration you saw this year? A. [Pittsburgh's Antwaan] Randle El. He caught a touchdown and started shouting like he was in church. Q. What impresses you most about this current run by the Patriots? A. Team camaraderie. Bill Belichick keeping that team together. Keep them believing in his system. In the NFL, you're going to have great athletes. Bill Belichick has a knack for bringing an athlete in and making him a star. Making him jell with the system he has. And he has the [assistant] coaches to back that up. Q. What Super Bowl performance impressed you more? Terrell Owens' comeback from surgery or Deion Branch picking apart Philly's defense? A. T.O. That shocked me the most because he shook the world up. No one thought after his surgery that he would come out and perform like that. I told him today, in his face, 'I don't like to pull on other receivers' jock strap, but as a man, you shook up the world.' He has much respect from me. Q. So what's the best part about making the Pro Bowl? A. For me, letting other people in my life have the chance to enjoy themselves. I thank God for blessing me with the money and the fame, but I love ... when I can fly other family members in. My mom, my cousins, my friends, who would never probably get the chance to enjoy a beautiful island like this, that's what I love about it. Article [Edited on 12/2/2005 by GumboBC]
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02-11-2005, 07:13 PM	#2
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Joe Horn tells it like it is! Q. If it was your decision, where would the Saints call home? New Orleans, Los Angeles or somewhere else? A. Wherever fans in a city accept us. If the New Orleans fans keep begging and crying about the tickets, crying about us winning, they don\'t want to support us and keep us there, then let\'s move on to a city that will. I would love to win a Super Bowl in New Orleans, but if they don\'t want to do what it takes to keep us there, then let\'s ride out. Is Joe Horn talking about YOU? LMAO!! Let the Horn bashing begin!!
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02-11-2005, 07:46 PM	#3
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Joe Horn tells it like it is! For the record: Q. Two years ago, you said Indianapolis\' Marvin Harrison was the best receiver in the game? Does that opinion still hold true? A. Let me tell you something. I judge receivers by the stats. Whoever has the best stats that year is the best receiver in the league. Q. So based on the stats, then No. 87 is the best? A. That\'s right, but all that is irrelevant. Q. If it was your decision, where would the Saints call home? New Orleans, Los Angeles or somewhere else? A. Wherever fans in a city accept us. If the New Orleans fans keep begging and crying about the tickets, crying about us winning, they don\'t want to support us and keep us there, then let\'s move on to a city that will. I would love to win a Super Bowl in New Orleans, but if they don\'t want to do what it takes to keep us there, then let\'s ride out. Q. How does your coach Jim Haslett go from being on the hot seat midway through the season to keeping his job? A. We won four games in a row. It was too late in the season, but we ended on a good note. I\'m glad they gave Has a two-year extension. It\'s not the head coach. The head coach can\'t run routes, run the football. It\'s his personnel. You gather the guys together to believe in your system, you\'ll win football games and that\'s what the Saints did the last five games of the season. Unfortunately, it was too late. To recap: 1. Joe calls himself the best receiver in the NFL. 2. Says Haslett is not to blame for the losses and blames the rest of his team (personnel) 3. Bashes the fans for begging and whinning. I\'ve got this in my file.
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02-11-2005, 07:56 PM	#4
alsaints113 Registered Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 95	Joe Horn tells it like it is! Joe Horn has a point there Gumbo. I agree with him unfortunately. The best way to run a team out of town is to not be there when the going gets tough. Saints tickets are still among the lowest prices in the league if I remember right. As far as I\'m concerned, after what he\'s done for our team, he can say any damn thing he wants...and he was the best receiver this year individually if you ask me. And don\'t anybody give me the classic lines...\"I\'ve supported the Saints being bad for so long, why should I keep doing it if they accept mediocrity!\" or any bull like that. Well...actually...that\'s inevitable when trying to suuport the Saints while they\'re crappy on this site (the reason I barely ever post). When I move to New Orleans if the Saints are still there I will go to every game I can regardless of their record and cheer them on regardless of their record or the score...just like I have in PA and Shreveport the last 15 years. Yes I am \"only 26.5\"...so don\'t even bother saying that I don\'t know the pain of being a Saints fan for 38 years...I can\'t help when I was born but always cheered the Saints. This is another classic EXCUSE line from people who disagree with my unending support on this site and others. Peace out y\'all....by the way I was at the Bacchus parade and DAMN is Elijah Wood tiny!
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02-11-2005, 07:59 PM	#5
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Joe Horn tells it like it is! alsaints113-- I\'m with you all the way!! I\'ve said the samething Joe Horn is saying. In fact, I\'ve said exactly the samething he\'s saying. Maybe they\'ll listen to Joe. I suspect some fans will have him added to their \"cut\" list though.
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turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,592	Joe Horn tells it like it is! Q. If it was your decision, where would the Saints call home? New Orleans, Los Angeles or somewhere else? A. Wherever fans in a city accept us. If the New Orleans fans keep begging and crying about the tickets, crying about us winning, they don\'t want to support us and keep us there, then let\'s move on to a city that will. I would love to win a Super Bowl in New Orleans, but if they don\'t want to do what it takes to keep us there, then let\'s ride out. I like Joe Horn, but his criticism of fans is one thing that sometimes irks me. He says that fans are crying about the team winning, what do you expect. Name a fan who doesn\'t want to see his beloved team win! If you love your team you want to see them win. As far as support, I think there were two home games this year that didn\'t sell out. That makes two in the past few years. This is in one of the \"smaller markets\" in the NFL. Have you ever looked at the crowd at an Arizona Cardinals game? They almost never have more than half the stadium filled.

02-11-2005, 10:41 PM	#7
alsaints113 Registered Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 95	Joe Horn tells it like it is! Unfortunately, sometimes those sold out crowds show up to boo the Saints (see Aaron Brooks...) because of a few dumb mistakes. I would rather be a Saints fan and have dumb mistakes cost us the playoffs then have them cost us the NFC championships or Super Bowl. I\'d also rather not have the fans show up a la Arizona when they don\'t support the team then show up to make it even harder on the home team. That makes absolutely NO sense at all. Pure stupidity.
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02-11-2005, 10:43 PM	#8
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,103	Joe Horn tells it like it is! the fact that joe has performed the way he has year in year out i can take his criticism. i dont agree with him though. the fans pay his salary and if we wish to complaine because as a team we arent getting what we desrve then oh well. complaine about us joe. its really basic when we are the fans and you are there because of fans then the fans have a right to complaine. im pretty sure that if they had played the entire the season the way they played the last 4 games there wouldnt have been as many complaints. but they didnt give us that. they gave us crap the first 12 weeks. if joe doesnt like us complaing oh well. i could care less. joe only has a job because there are fans. without fans he doesnt have a job. i love joe but if he doesnt like it i say he gets the big old OH WELL
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02-11-2005, 10:59 PM	#9
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Joe Horn tells it like it is! I\'ve got this in my file. So what? How are you going to use it Billy-Boy? If you say that Joe Horn is a problem, then so is your boy Brooks. If Horn is right then you\'re in favor of fans supporting this team just b/c the team and its players say so? Just as I would bash a President whose policies I disagree with, I would likewise support my country. But when a President sends our boys to a war I don\'t support, I\'m going to attack the decision and support the boys.
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02-11-2005, 11:03 PM	#10
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Joe Horn tells it like it is! PS - if your argument is that we bash Brooks when he makes egotistical comments, but not Horn, my response is simple. Horn is considered a vocal and emotional leader by coaches and teammates. Brooks is not. Further, Horn proves it on the field. He can say whatever he wants so long as he keeps going to the Pro Bowl 4 out of every 5 years and putting up top 5 WR numbers over a 5 year period. When Brooks goes to a single Pro Bowl, get back to me on whether or not he can call himself great.
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