Fire Rob Ryan

burningmetal · 11-08-2015, 03:47 PM

Anyone defending Rob Ryan or any of his players at this point are not being realistic. I don't want to hear about injuries, or Payton interfering. We played the worst offense in football today. Nobody complains about Payton getting in the way for a couple of games when the defense actually looked like it existed, but as soon as we go back to sucking, now it's Payton's fault again.

I'll tell you what's Payton's fault. Coming out of the half and calling three straight run plays for a 3 and out, after they couldn't stop our passing game the entire first half. It's his fault for continuing to try to force the run when it wasn't there. They couldn't cover us all day. You don't need balance if one part of your offense is unstoppable.

But the defense? These coaches are awful, and the majority of these players are awful right now.

K Major · 11-08-2015, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

But the defense? These coaches are awful, and the majority of these players are awful right now.

+1 Metal. This ^^^^^^^^^^.

You'll get no retort from me.

Side note: Why did we sign CJ Spiller??

burningmetal · 11-08-2015, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

+1 Metal. This ^^^^^^^^^^.

You'll get no retort from me.

Side note: Why did we sign CJ Spiller??

Good question... Another that I have no answer for.

Rell&Gold · 11-08-2015, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

+1 Metal. This ^^^^^^^^^^.

You'll get no retort from me.

Side note: Why did we sign CJ Spiller??

Yes I NEED an answer for that if not anything else

spkb25 · 11-08-2015, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Anyone defending Rob Ryan or any of his players at this point are not being realistic. I don't want to hear about injuries, or Payton interfering. We played the worst offense in football today. Nobody complains about Payton getting in the way for a couple of games when the defense actually looked like it existed, but as soon as we go back to sucking, now it's Payton's fault again.

I'll tell you what's Payton's fault. Coming out of the half and calling three straight run plays for a 3 and out, after they couldn't stop our passing game the entire first half. It's his fault for continuing to try to force the run when it wasn't there. They couldn't cover us all day. You don't need balance if one part of your offense is unstoppable.

But the defense? These coaches are awful, and the majority of these players are awful right now.

id be there with yoou if they weren't t-ing off on brees and sacking him. I not for that then put the run game on the shelf and just pass, but we had to force it to keep them honest and slow down their rush a bit.

RailBoss · 11-08-2015, 03:51 PM

I'm thinking he went to the run game due to the lack of pass protection.

burningmetal · 11-08-2015, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by RailBoss

I'm thinking he went to the run game due to the lack of pass protection.

The lack of pass protection came from being behind in 2nd or 3rd and long from trying to run into a pile. That pass rush was non existent in the first half. And here's another thing I've got a problem with: Why is Drew, once again, standing around in the pocket? I praised the game plan against the Falcons a couple weeks ago when they got him out of the pocket and bought him time.

Where was that when the protection was breaking down today? No adjustment was ever made. These coaches just don't take bad teams seriously and I'm frankly fed up with it.

spkb25 · 11-08-2015, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

The lack of pass protection came from being behind in 2nd or 3rd and long from trying to run into a pile. That pass rush was non existent in the first half. And here's another thing I've got a problem with: Why is Drew, once again, standing around in the pocket? I praised the game plan against the Falcons a couple weeks ago when they got him out of the pocket and bought him time.

Where was that when the protection was breaking down today? No adjustment was ever made. These coaches just don't take bad teams seriously and I'm frankly fed up with it.

i didn't understand the lack of screens when they were coming after us...we never caught them

burningmetal · 11-08-2015, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

i didn't understand the lack of screens when they were coming after us...we never caught them

Yeah, there are any number of things they could have done to off-set the pressure, but never did. Running only works if you can get yards. They weren't worried about whether the Saints were running or not, they just kept loading the box in hopes of getting pressure. So when the Saints ran, it was right into the pile. That's why you either roll Drew out or, as you said, run more screens. They kept trying play-action....... Really Payton? That just gives them more time to get to Drew.

Lord_Saint83 · 11-08-2015, 04:02 PM

They need to fire the whole defensive staff. That cluster f*uk on the defense is a collective failure from rob on down to the payton cronies and why draft 3-4 players to play 4-3. The Saints love trying to put that square peg in the round hole.

11-08-2015, 03:47 PM	#1
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Fire Rob Ryan Anyone defending Rob Ryan or any of his players at this point are not being realistic. I don't want to hear about injuries, or Payton interfering. We played the worst offense in football today. Nobody complains about Payton getting in the way for a couple of games when the defense actually looked like it existed, but as soon as we go back to sucking, now it's Payton's fault again. I'll tell you what's Payton's fault. Coming out of the half and calling three straight run plays for a 3 and out, after they couldn't stop our passing game the entire first half. It's his fault for continuing to try to force the run when it wasn't there. They couldn't cover us all day. You don't need balance if one part of your offense is unstoppable. But the defense? These coaches are awful, and the majority of these players are awful right now. foreverfan, Rell&Gold, K Major and 1 others like this.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

11-08-2015, 03:52 PM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,739 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Fire Rob Ryan Originally Posted by burningmetal But the defense? These coaches are awful, and the majority of these players are awful right now. +1 Metal. This ^^^^^^^^^^. You'll get no retort from me. Side note: Why did we sign CJ Spiller?? hagan714, leilung, burningmetal and 1 others like this.

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burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Fire Rob Ryan Originally Posted by K Major +1 Metal. This ^^^^^^^^^^. You'll get no retort from me. Side note: Why did we sign CJ Spiller?? Good question... Another that I have no answer for. Rell&Gold likes this.

11-08-2015, 04:09 PM	#4
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Fire Rob Ryan Originally Posted by K Major +1 Metal. This ^^^^^^^^^^. You'll get no retort from me. Side note: Why did we sign CJ Spiller?? Yes I NEED an answer for that if not anything else

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: Fire Rob Ryan Originally Posted by burningmetal Anyone defending Rob Ryan or any of his players at this point are not being realistic. I don't want to hear about injuries, or Payton interfering. We played the worst offense in football today. Nobody complains about Payton getting in the way for a couple of games when the defense actually looked like it existed, but as soon as we go back to sucking, now it's Payton's fault again. I'll tell you what's Payton's fault. Coming out of the half and calling three straight run plays for a 3 and out, after they couldn't stop our passing game the entire first half. It's his fault for continuing to try to force the run when it wasn't there. They couldn't cover us all day. You don't need balance if one part of your offense is unstoppable. But the defense? These coaches are awful, and the majority of these players are awful right now. id be there with yoou if they weren't t-ing off on brees and sacking him. I not for that then put the run game on the shelf and just pass, but we had to force it to keep them honest and slow down their rush a bit. jeanpierre likes this.

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RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Fire Rob Ryan I'm thinking he went to the run game due to the lack of pass protection. foreverfan likes this.

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burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Fire Rob Ryan Originally Posted by spkb25 i didn't understand the lack of screens when they were coming after us...we never caught them Yeah, there are any number of things they could have done to off-set the pressure, but never did. Running only works if you can get yards. They weren't worried about whether the Saints were running or not, they just kept loading the box in hopes of getting pressure. So when the Saints ran, it was right into the pile. That's why you either roll Drew out or, as you said, run more screens. They kept trying play-action....... Really Payton? That just gives them more time to get to Drew.

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Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: Fire Rob Ryan They need to fire the whole defensive staff. That cluster f*uk on the defense is a collective failure from rob on down to the payton cronies and why draft 3-4 players to play 4-3. The Saints love trying to put that square peg in the round hole. Rell&Gold likes this.

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