Black Monday

Rsanders24 · 11-15-2015, 08:08 PM

Their technique is horrible....it looked like the D gave up completely after the 2nd TD.

burningmetal · 11-15-2015, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by Rsanders24

Their technique is horrible....it looked like the D gave up completely after the 2nd TD.

Every time the 'skins ran one of those screens, or short passes in general (which was basically all day) the "defenders" were eaten alive. Every single time.

Darryl Johnston (I can't stand any of the color "analysts" in any broadcast, anymore) was praising and slobbering all over the Redskins for what a great job they were doing in blocking. But the reality is our entire defense was back pedaling. There are certain guys whose job is to hold the edges and force the receiver to re-route. Then the rest of the guys have to be able to shoot the gaps and make tackles. It's no different than the principles of stopping the run.

But when there's a screen pass, the entire defense just stands there thinking someone else is going to make the tackle. And when they realize that they've lost position they start back pedaling as the entire offensive line is in the secondary by this time. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that once you start moving backwards you have no chance of maintaining any balance to shed blocks. The o-linemen just play a little two hand touch, and all our defenders are on the ground.

Basic technique discipline. This team doesn't have it.

Barry from MS · 11-15-2015, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Basic technique discipline. This team doesn't have it.

Does RR ooze teaching defensive basic technique discipline? He is not a teacher...it was apparent in the second half of this game...the commentators pointed it out even. With our bewildered defense on the sideline, RR was just staring at his play chart...he wasn't even talking to his players.

What does he even talk about during halftime? "What did y'all do last night?...can y'all believe they have almost 400 yards on us already?" I mean, seriously?

burningmetal · 11-15-2015, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

Does RR ooze teaching defensive basic technique discipline? He is not a teacher...it was apparent in the second half of this game...the commentators pointed it out even. With our bewildered defense on the sideline, RR was just staring at his play chart...he wasn't even talking to his players.

What does he even talk about during halftime? "What did y'all do last night?...can y'all believe they have almost 400 yards on us already?" I mean, seriously?

Nope, obviously he oozes no sort of teaching prowess. And that's the grand point to take from all of this. People can blame youth and injuries, and Payton supposedly meddling. But when you lack basic technique and discipline, that shows that your coordinator is not doing his job, even IF you want to give him a pass on ALL of the other things. Pitiful.

Mind you, I'm not excusing the players for their lack of energy and effort on many occasions. But Rob is heading this thing and has been here too long for this kind of crap to be happening.

Barry from MS · 11-16-2015, 12:41 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Mind you, I'm not excusing the players for their lack of energy and effort on many occasions. But Rob is heading this thing and has been here too long for this kind of crap to be happening.

The players certainly don't get a pass...hustle, Tackling 101, and discipline helps quite a bit.

But RR is the one at the top that puts those players in positions to succeed/fail. He organizes that defense...maybe? I honestly have no idea if you could call 130 points given up in 3 games an 'organized' NFL defense...

K Major · 11-16-2015, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

He organizes that defense...maybe? I honestly have no idea if you could call 130 points given up in 3 games an 'organized' NFL defense...

That stat alone should get you fired at this level.

His goose is cooked.

RailBoss · 11-16-2015, 01:08 AM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

Does RR ooze teaching defensive basic technique discipline? He is not a teacher...it was apparent in the second half of this game...the commentators pointed it out even. With our bewildered defense on the sideline, RR was just staring at his play chart...he wasn't even talking to his players.

What does he even talk about during halftime? "What did y'all do last night?...can y'all believe they have almost 400 yards on us already?" I mean, seriously?

RR during halftime was asking if could get a few crab-cake sandwiches before the plane leaves.

11-15-2015, 08:08 PM	#1
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,482	Re: Black Monday Their technique is horrible....it looked like the D gave up completely after the 2nd TD. burningmetal and Rell&Gold like this.

11-15-2015, 08:35 PM	#2
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Black Monday Originally Posted by Rsanders24 Their technique is horrible....it looked like the D gave up completely after the 2nd TD. Every time the 'skins ran one of those screens, or short passes in general (which was basically all day) the "defenders" were eaten alive. Every single time. Darryl Johnston (I can't stand any of the color "analysts" in any broadcast, anymore) was praising and slobbering all over the Redskins for what a great job they were doing in blocking. But the reality is our entire defense was back pedaling. There are certain guys whose job is to hold the edges and force the receiver to re-route. Then the rest of the guys have to be able to shoot the gaps and make tackles. It's no different than the principles of stopping the run. But when there's a screen pass, the entire defense just stands there thinking someone else is going to make the tackle. And when they realize that they've lost position they start back pedaling as the entire offensive line is in the secondary by this time. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that once you start moving backwards you have no chance of maintaining any balance to shed blocks. The o-linemen just play a little two hand touch, and all our defenders are on the ground. Basic technique discipline. This team doesn't have it. RailBoss, SaintFanQ, Barry from MS and 4 others like this.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

11-15-2015, 11:29 PM	#3
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Black Monday Originally Posted by burningmetal Basic technique discipline. This team doesn't have it. Does RR ooze teaching defensive basic technique discipline? He is not a teacher...it was apparent in the second half of this game...the commentators pointed it out even. With our bewildered defense on the sideline, RR was just staring at his play chart...he wasn't even talking to his players. What does he even talk about during halftime? "What did y'all do last night?...can y'all believe they have almost 400 yards on us already?" I mean, seriously?

11-15-2015, 11:55 PM	#4
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Black Monday Originally Posted by Barry from MS Does RR ooze teaching defensive basic technique discipline? He is not a teacher...it was apparent in the second half of this game...the commentators pointed it out even. With our bewildered defense on the sideline, RR was just staring at his play chart...he wasn't even talking to his players. What does he even talk about during halftime? "What did y'all do last night?...can y'all believe they have almost 400 yards on us already?" I mean, seriously? Nope, obviously he oozes no sort of teaching prowess. And that's the grand point to take from all of this. People can blame youth and injuries, and Payton supposedly meddling. But when you lack basic technique and discipline, that shows that your coordinator is not doing his job, even IF you want to give him a pass on ALL of the other things. Pitiful. Mind you, I'm not excusing the players for their lack of energy and effort on many occasions. But Rob is heading this thing and has been here too long for this kind of crap to be happening.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

11-16-2015, 12:41 AM	#5
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Black Monday Originally Posted by burningmetal Mind you, I'm not excusing the players for their lack of energy and effort on many occasions. But Rob is heading this thing and has been here too long for this kind of crap to be happening. The players certainly don't get a pass...hustle, Tackling 101, and discipline helps quite a bit. But RR is the one at the top that puts those players in positions to succeed/fail. He organizes that defense...maybe? I honestly have no idea if you could call 130 points given up in 3 games an 'organized' NFL defense... Rell&Gold likes this.

11-16-2015, 08:23 AM	#6
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Black Monday Originally Posted by Barry from MS He organizes that defense...maybe? I honestly have no idea if you could call 130 points given up in 3 games an 'organized' NFL defense... That stat alone should get you fired at this level. His goose is cooked. jeanpierre and Rell&Gold like this.

11-16-2015, 01:08 AM	#7
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Black Monday Originally Posted by Barry from MS Does RR ooze teaching defensive basic technique discipline? He is not a teacher...it was apparent in the second half of this game...the commentators pointed it out even. With our bewildered defense on the sideline, RR was just staring at his play chart...he wasn't even talking to his players. What does he even talk about during halftime? "What did y'all do last night?...can y'all believe they have almost 400 yards on us already?" I mean, seriously? RR during halftime was asking if could get a few crab-cake sandwiches before the plane leaves. SaintsBro and WillSaints81 like this.

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