officiating

ChrisXVI · 12-07-2015, 04:38 AM

That penalty on Ingram for throwing the ball at the wall... What the heck was that all about?! Pretty sure I've seen that done a million times.

SloMotion · 12-07-2015, 04:55 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

That penalty on Ingram for throwing the ball at the wall... What the heck was that all about?! Pretty sure I've seen that done a million times.

IDK either, I think the refs were just reacting to the woman standing next to the photog Ingram threw the ball over ... she was pretty animate,

. Good example of a bad/questionable call, regardless.

jlouhill · 12-07-2015, 05:03 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

That penalty on Ingram for throwing the ball at the wall... What the heck was that all about?! Pretty sure I've seen that done a million times.

I didn't quite get that one either. Nor could I understand how they missed our player getting tackled out of bounds.

K Major · 12-07-2015, 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

That penalty on Ingram for throwing the ball at the wall... What the heck was that all about?! Pretty sure I've seen that done a million times.

I still don't get that call. You got that fraud on the other side posing, doing selfies after a score, yet Roll Tide gets a flag for throwing the ball against the wall

?

Saw a highlight of Robinson of the Jags doing the same thing but no call. IMHO the officiating in New Orleans was bad yesterday.

RaginCajun83 · 12-08-2015, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

That penalty on Ingram for throwing the ball at the wall... What the heck was that all about?! Pretty sure I've seen that done a million times.

yet there is no flag when Scam rips the ball out of the ref's hands to give to someone in the stands OR when there were 5 of them celebrating in the endzone together OR when they were celebrating from the endzone to the 30 yard line. I'm pretty damn sure all 3 of those are a penalty.

The officiating in the NFL as a whole is a ****ing joke, its one of the many reason why this season I watched football on Saturday and only Saints games on Sunday.

hagan714 · 12-07-2015, 06:32 AM

the officiating was so bad I have rank it up there at top of the dung pile. If the NFL wanted conspiracy theories to end this game did little to help there cause. Browner did some bone head things but I will admit some of the penlites he got called for were not called on the panthers. He must be on the NFL hit list.

We lost this game do to bonehead mistakes in the secondary and the inability to stop the run on the edges yet again. 2 TD i credit them to Chris Owens and Kyle Wilson and their bone head play. This is what happens when back ups start.

Leaving Browner of all people out on the island of misfit toys all by himself was, is and always will be a mistake. we know that. that is one reason i was so so about the signing. saints are not deep in the secondary when it comes to veteran talent. One injury and the mad hatters tea party commences.

SaintsBro · 12-07-2015, 07:29 AM

Well here is the thing. When you are undefeated the refs will GIVE you whatever calls you need. The way to get the calls to go your way, is to be a GOOD football team. When you suck, the refs will be like "talk to the hand" and they look the other way. All day long.

This year it feels like I've seen more Saints players being crybabies, looking around for the flag after plays, waving their arms around, than ever before under Payton. They act like they suck, like they need help from the refs, and it shows.

There were a couple of plays yesterday where I noticed the Panthers ball carrier would get tackled, hit the ground, and he'd ROLL FORWARD and the refs would give them another three, four yards on the spot of the ball. Why don't the Saints do stuff like that? Because they SUCK. Back when we were good, we used to get away with all kinds of stuff and get favorable calls going our way, all the time.

UK_WhoDat · 12-07-2015, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

Well here is the thing. When you are undefeated the refs will GIVE you whatever calls you need. The way to get the calls to go your way, is to be a GOOD football team. When you suck, the refs will be like "talk to the hand" and they look the other way. All day long. ....

This is so true (and not just in NFL).
For years I have argued that when teams are good, officials also believe those teams are good. The officials have preconceptions that colors events.
Officials believe that good teams making what seems to be good plays is normal.
Officials believe that something was amiss when bad teams make what seems to be good plays.

Budsdrinker · 12-08-2015, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

Well here is the thing. When you are undefeated the refs will GIVE you whatever calls you need. The way to get the calls to go your way, is to be a GOOD football team. When you suck, the refs will be like "talk to the hand" and they look the other way. All day long.

This year it feels like I've seen more Saints players being crybabies, looking around for the flag after plays, waving their arms around, than ever before under Payton. They act like they suck, like they need help from the refs, and it shows.

There were a couple of plays yesterday where I noticed the Panthers ball carrier would get tackled, hit the ground, and he'd ROLL FORWARD and the refs would give them another three, four yards on the spot of the ball. Why don't the Saints do stuff like that? Because they SUCK. Back when we were good, we used to get away with all kinds of stuff and get favorable calls going our way, all the time.

OK, officials can give judgement calls to a winning team but you can't give them the obvious 12 men on the field. I could see it sitting 8 rows in the stands and was even yelling at the refs to throw the flag. I don't care if you are 0-11 or 11-0 you don't blow calls like that. And yes I firmly believe the Panthers win was aided by the bad calls and lack of calls.

Barry from MS · 12-07-2015, 07:55 AM

I refuse to complain. The years when we had a winning record we were one of the least penalized teams in the league. This year, we are 4-8. We're not gonna get the calls. It is what it is. We need to get better.

12-07-2015, 04:38 AM	#1
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: officiating That penalty on Ingram for throwing the ball at the wall... What the heck was that all about?! Pretty sure I've seen that done a million times. UK_WhoDat, nola_swammi, hagan714 and 3 others like this.

12-07-2015, 04:55 AM	#2
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: officiating Originally Posted by ChrisXVI That penalty on Ingram for throwing the ball at the wall... What the heck was that all about?! Pretty sure I've seen that done a million times. IDK either, I think the refs were just reacting to the woman standing next to the photog Ingram threw the ball over ... she was pretty animate, . Good example of a bad/questionable call, regardless. hagan714 likes this.

12-07-2015, 05:03 AM	#3
jlouhill 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Denton, Tx. Posts: 692	Re: officiating Originally Posted by ChrisXVI That penalty on Ingram for throwing the ball at the wall... What the heck was that all about?! Pretty sure I've seen that done a million times. I didn't quite get that one either. Nor could I understand how they missed our player getting tackled out of bounds. hagan714 likes this.

12-07-2015, 07:47 AM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,825 Blog Entries: 3	Re: officiating Originally Posted by ChrisXVI That penalty on Ingram for throwing the ball at the wall... What the heck was that all about?! Pretty sure I've seen that done a million times. I still don't get that call. You got that fraud on the other side posing, doing selfies after a score, yet Roll Tide gets a flag for throwing the ball against the wall ? Saw a highlight of Robinson of the Jags doing the same thing but no call. IMHO the officiating in New Orleans was bad yesterday.

12-08-2015, 08:33 AM	#5
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: officiating Originally Posted by ChrisXVI That penalty on Ingram for throwing the ball at the wall... What the heck was that all about?! Pretty sure I've seen that done a million times. yet there is no flag when Scam rips the ball out of the ref's hands to give to someone in the stands OR when there were 5 of them celebrating in the endzone together OR when they were celebrating from the endzone to the 30 yard line. I'm pretty damn sure all 3 of those are a penalty. The officiating in the NFL as a whole is a ****ing joke, its one of the many reason why this season I watched football on Saturday and only Saints games on Sunday.

12-07-2015, 06:32 AM	#6
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: officiating the officiating was so bad I have rank it up there at top of the dung pile. If the NFL wanted conspiracy theories to end this game did little to help there cause. Browner did some bone head things but I will admit some of the penlites he got called for were not called on the panthers. He must be on the NFL hit list. We lost this game do to bonehead mistakes in the secondary and the inability to stop the run on the edges yet again. 2 TD i credit them to Chris Owens and Kyle Wilson and their bone head play. This is what happens when back ups start. Leaving Browner of all people out on the island of misfit toys all by himself was, is and always will be a mistake. we know that. that is one reason i was so so about the signing. saints are not deep in the secondary when it comes to veteran talent. One injury and the mad hatters tea party commences.
	"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins

12-07-2015, 07:29 AM	#7
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: officiating Well here is the thing. When you are undefeated the refs will GIVE you whatever calls you need. The way to get the calls to go your way, is to be a GOOD football team. When you suck, the refs will be like "talk to the hand" and they look the other way. All day long. This year it feels like I've seen more Saints players being crybabies, looking around for the flag after plays, waving their arms around, than ever before under Payton. They act like they suck, like they need help from the refs, and it shows. There were a couple of plays yesterday where I noticed the Panthers ball carrier would get tackled, hit the ground, and he'd ROLL FORWARD and the refs would give them another three, four yards on the spot of the ball. Why don't the Saints do stuff like that? Because they SUCK. Back when we were good, we used to get away with all kinds of stuff and get favorable calls going our way, all the time.

12-07-2015, 01:28 PM	#8
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 4,001	Re: officiating Originally Posted by SaintsBro Well here is the thing. When you are undefeated the refs will GIVE you whatever calls you need. The way to get the calls to go your way, is to be a GOOD football team. When you suck, the refs will be like "talk to the hand" and they look the other way. All day long. .... This is so true (and not just in NFL). For years I have argued that when teams are good, officials also believe those teams are good. The officials have preconceptions that colors events. Officials believe that good teams making what seems to be good plays is normal. Officials believe that something was amiss when bad teams make what seems to be good plays.

12-08-2015, 08:59 AM	#9
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: officiating Originally Posted by SaintsBro Well here is the thing. When you are undefeated the refs will GIVE you whatever calls you need. The way to get the calls to go your way, is to be a GOOD football team. When you suck, the refs will be like "talk to the hand" and they look the other way. All day long. This year it feels like I've seen more Saints players being crybabies, looking around for the flag after plays, waving their arms around, than ever before under Payton. They act like they suck, like they need help from the refs, and it shows. There were a couple of plays yesterday where I noticed the Panthers ball carrier would get tackled, hit the ground, and he'd ROLL FORWARD and the refs would give them another three, four yards on the spot of the ball. Why don't the Saints do stuff like that? Because they SUCK. Back when we were good, we used to get away with all kinds of stuff and get favorable calls going our way, all the time. OK, officials can give judgement calls to a winning team but you can't give them the obvious 12 men on the field. I could see it sitting 8 rows in the stands and was even yelling at the refs to throw the flag. I don't care if you are 0-11 or 11-0 you don't blow calls like that. And yes I firmly believe the Panthers win was aided by the bad calls and lack of calls.

12-07-2015, 07:55 AM	#10
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: officiating I refuse to complain. The years when we had a winning record we were one of the least penalized teams in the league. This year, we are 4-8. We're not gonna get the calls. It is what it is. We need to get better.

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